What Have I Gotten Myself Into? 315cmh And A Coco Monster

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Day 50 update. White pistils are coming out everywhere still. She’s turning more “stinky”/profuse when I smell my fingers after touching her.

Have some foxtailing going on -the room got up to 81 a couple days, methinks it’s from the heat. Or gentics. Think there’s definitely some light/UV burn on the fan leaves. Can’t get the plant and light any further away lol

What do you guys think about flushing/decreasing the nutes in preparation for a super low ppm “flush”?.. Not sure about going to 100% pure water.. instead I’m thinking about decreasing the nutes each watering and finishing with a super low ppm for the last few days or week. Hoping that’ll make her fade enough? What do you guys think?

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(Always ph’d to 5.8)

Last watering (day 48)
3ml silica, 3ml Calmag, 9ml Canna A+B, 2ml Rhizotonoic, 9ml Cannazym, 8ml Cannaboost

Today (day 50)
2ml Silica, 2ml Calmag, 7ml A+B, 2ml Rhizotonoic, 9ml Cannazym, 8ml Cannaboost

Next watering (day 52)
Cut out the Silica, 1ml Calmag, 5ml A+B, cut out the Rhizotonoic, 9ml Cannazym, 7ml Cannaboost

Watering after that (day 54)
Cut out the CalMag, 3ml A+B, 8ml Cannazym, 5ml Cannaboost

Next watering (day 56)
2ml A+B, 8ml Cannazym, 4ml Cannaboost

Next watering (day 58)
1ml A+B, 8ml Cannazym, 3ml Cannaboost

And keep on with only about 1ml of the A+B until they’re done (day 60+). The Canna feed schedule says to keep feeding the Zym and Boost? Anyone have any tips?

Orrrrrr should I cut out all nutes except a low dose of A+B and some molasses? So many possibilities!

Pics were taken right at lights on. She’s a little droopy and could use some water
 
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Day 56 update

Been tapering the nutes down. Currently at 2ml/gal of Canna A+B, 6ml of Cannazym, and 4ml of Cannaboost. It comes to about 280ppm. Runoff comes out to 310ppm. Been dropping the nutes by about 1ml/gal per watering - every 2 days.

Can see some orange trachomes, but mostly cloudy with some clear.
The light/UV burn has gotten worse, but there’s nothing I can really do about it.
I see a few bananas too.
Some purple hues are coming in

Planing to let her go about another week. You guys think that’ll be long enough? Chop her around week 9?
 
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Day 59! Getting there... I’ll get on later and post some nug shots from today when the lights turn on (day 60)

The biggest nug directly under the light has a huge foxtail on the very top. In the very center of the canopy. Looks like a helicopter on top. The nug might fly away.

Anyways... Hopefully I’ll reach the 4oz goal! Got some bigass nugs (for me at least). It’s gotta be at least a few ounces! lol
 
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Day 63

About ready for chop?? Or give it a few more days for the white hairs to stop? I’ve read that really long veg’d plants can flower strangely. It seems about done but she still had some white hairs - though they seem to have almosttttt stopped popping new ones. And it threw some ‘nanners. Lots of nanners.

So any suggestions on weather to chop or keep flushing? I’ve been giving a nute solution at about 180ppm. 1ml/gal of Canna a+b, 6ml/gal of Cannazym, and 2ml/gal of Cannaboost. The runoff was at 230ppm last time. Gonna try to get the runoff down to below 200ppm before harvest.

She looks about depleteded lol. Leaves are all dying including the sugars. But she keeps getting frostier and bigger, slowly.

She looks like shit in pictures honestly. The yellowing really stands out. The nugs themselves are turning purple and the sugar leaf edges are frosty and purple.

I’ve gotta work on my last few weeks of flowering haha. Work hard! Did I wait TOO long to harvest her already? She yellowed up like a bitch. The nugs themselves look good I think, but the leaves are all shot to hell. Should be a smooth smoke at least lol!

Learned tons this run. I can’t wait to chop her and get onto the next one!

Chopped off a couple bottom nugs to sample. It’s more of a head high for sure with a body buzz. It overpowered the shop bought bud I smoked prior. And that was plucked about a week ago. Can’t wait to try the finished nugs.

Help on finishing this girl out! Thanks for all the help throughout!!

Trichomes are only like 5% amber, with almost no clear left. Have to search for some clear spots. Hard to find amber too. Mostly all cloudy.

Tried to get some closeup pictures so you could at least see the calyxes and ratio of white/orange pistils. Doubt you can tell anything about the trichs.
 
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Tried to get some macro shots. Not sure if you can really see much of anything. It’s hard to get a decent photo through the scope. Maybe a couple of them are okay!


After looking at her more closely overall, I think she’s about ready to come down. Maybe a few more days. A lot more amber trichs appeared in the last 24-48 hours. But I’m a newb. Let me know what you guys think. Planning on giving her plain tap water for the next few days. Not sure if I should pH it or not - read mixed reviews.
 
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Anybody have some input? I cut off a couple small nugs and dried them and smoked them... that shit is funky! The smell almost makes my eyes water haha smells like I stuck my nose in a horse’s ass... Not that i’d know... or would I? Anyways. It tasted real good. Can’t wait to taste a nice nugget.


Think I’m gonna give her plain water tomorrow. Then maybe one more watering 36 hours later. Then chop. Or maybe just chop after the first watering. Seeing lots of amber trichomes now. Sahweeeeeeeeet. Took long enough! Lol

The smaller nug on the left weighs 3.8 now. So probably about 3g of nug. It was cut off a couple days before the nug on the right.

The nug of the right weighed 19g wet. It’s down to 10g’s. So I’m thinking 5-6 total.

Can’t even tell I pulled those nugs off the main plant. Can’t wait to see how much nuggage there is in the end. Gonna get baked as hell!
 
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Nice man, love the macros

depending on how u like your high to be id give it another 4 days/ week
Agreed. Plain water for a few more days and you should be golden. I'm sure you know this, but there is a window for harvesting. Earlier with cloudy and just a few amber is a more speedy high, more amber less cloudy gets more sedative and couch lock ish.
Grow looks good. Bummer you can't get that CMH light a bit higher. Looks like you fought high leaf temps and uv burn. Maybe back down the notes just a bit throughout, starting the depletion a bit earlier and dragging it out a bit.
Good harvest tho, 5-6 seems about right IMO...
 
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Nice man, love the macros

depending on how u like your high to be id give it another 4 days/ week

Thanks for the reply!
I like more of a head high, and 4-5 days it will most likely be!

Would you pH the water? Because wouldn’t that be adding more salts?

Agreed. Plain water for a few more days and you should be golden. I'm sure you know this, but there is a window for harvesting. Earlier with cloudy and just a few amber is a more speedy high, more amber less cloudy gets more sedative and couch lock ish.
Grow looks good. Bummer you can't get that CMH light a bit higher. Looks like you fought high leaf temps and uv burn. Maybe back down the notes just a bit throughout, starting the depletion a bit earlier and dragging it out a bit.
Good harvest tho, 5-6 seems about right IMO...

Awesome! Thanks for the response and information. Trying to avoid TOO much of the “couch lock,” so trying to err on pulling her sooner rather than later.

Yeah I wish I could have moved the light up!! Definitely battled hard with high leaf temps and uv burn. The biggest nug directly in the center looks all sorts of funny! Got a damn helicopter of a foxtail directly on the tip. And foxtailing all over. The nugs covered up by fan leaves thus getting some shade look amazing.

Good advice on the nutes too. Slightly lighter nutes and a longer, slower depletion period sounds spot on. And fixing the light issue obviously. Lol

Thanks!! Any advice on weather or not to pH the water? And same thought about trying not to add any more salts? Need to read up on flushing more.
 
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It's a controversial subject believe it or not

Im of the opinion is once you burn/overfeed your plants it traps salt in, and taste is compromised. there's plenty of threads here just do "flushing thcfarmer" into google and it'll be plenty of info
 
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It's a controversial subject believe it or not

Im of the opinion is once you burn/overfeed your plants it traps salt in, and taste is compromised. there's plenty of threads here just do "flushing thcfarmer" into google and it'll be plenty of info

Will do! I’ve read both ways so I was just interested to see what you guys had to say. It probably won’t make much of a difference since it’s just for a few days anyway. Lol.

Thinking out loud - Wonder if not ph’ing locks up the roots.... but the nutes are already in the leaves... so does the roots’ pH even matter? Would the roots’ pH affect the ability of the plant to use up the stored up nutrients? (Since we’re not worried about it actually absorbing more from the medium... Just using what is already inside the leaves?). I lack the knowledge... so off to the search bar! Thanks! I’ll post my results if I can find any... But like you said it’s controvercial.

About to smoke this tester nug. Been drying 4 days... Not even completely dry yet. But dry enough. So i must smoke it. Going to let the second nug dry out more.
 
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I have flushed with both ph and non ph adjusted water... can't say I noticed much of a difference.
Enjoy that smoke! Bud grown on your own always has a sweet taste!
 
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And it threw some ‘nanners. Lots of nanners.

Bagseed normally is from a plant that popped nanners itself and Hermies make Hermies!

I personally would chop if your done your flush and unless the smoke is super tasty i would toss all its clones.

Looking at your macro photos you can see the heads are pretty small in size and there are lot of stalks that dont even have heads.(this is just the genetics and you want to find one that is covered in as many heads as possible.)

Great grow, if your in Canada I could send you some beans that arnt bagseed and you can try to find yourself a keeper
 
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I have flushed with both ph and non ph adjusted water... can't say I noticed much of a difference.
Enjoy that smoke! Bud grown on your own always has a sweet taste!

Thanks for the response!

Went with non-pH adjusted, comes out around 7.3 usually. Seems to still be doing it’s thing!

True that! It tasted nice! Could have let it dry a little more, smoked kind of harsh. Ready to try a non premature fully dried and cured nug!

Bagseed normally is from a plant that popped nanners itself and Hermies make Hermies!

I personally would chop if your done your flush and unless the smoke is super tasty i would toss all its clones.

Looking at your macro photos you can see the heads are pretty small in size and there are lot of stalks that dont even have heads.(this is just the genetics and you want to find one that is covered in as many heads as possible.)

Great grow, if your in Canada I could send you some beans that arnt bagseed and you can try to find yourself a keeper

Badass reply man. I definitely see what you’re saying. The other plant next to it didn’t herm or anything. She/he probably has got to go! Interested to see how the bud turns out after the dry and proper cure. Have a couple other strains vegging so it won’t be that big of a deal. Mostly other bag seeds though...

Giving one more plain watering tonight, then chopping tomorrow or the next morning. The last watering ppm came out at 175. So I think she’s good to go. Just waiting for the trichomes to turn slightlyyyyyy more.

Good look on the trichome heads not being there. I had never even thought about that. I just assumed it was from knocking them off from touching them. Going to get a better look once I pull it out to chop it down. Going to pay attention to that when I pheno hunt, thanks for the idea!

Thanks for the offer!! I’m in Colorado. But i am half Canadian! Need to start a pheno hunt. I’ve got a pack of some platinum Girl Scout x bubba kush. Only have one going in veg though lol

Really want to grow some AK and super silver haze. Any favorite strains of yours?

Almost there... day 67. Chopped off another little small taster nug. Couldn’t resist. The 19g nug is down to 5g from drying. So I assume they’ll weigh about 15% of their initial weight when all said and done and taken off the bigass stem.

Happy growing!
 
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Really want to grow some AK and super silver haze. Any favorite strains of yours?
Every thing I grow either gets dry sifted, ice hashed or squished into rosin. Its all about the flavors. Im just trying to grow trichomes and not to worried about fat buds. I got a tasty "Citrix" strain that came from Colorado.

Tangerine dream also came back with a very unique orange diesel taste that lingered on your lips. This lead to planting 3 or 4 different diesel crosses for this years taste test and im also doing some original skunk hunting this season.
 
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Every thing I grow either gets dry sifted, ice hashed or squished into rosin. Its all about the flavors. Im just trying to grow trichomes and not to worried about fat buds. I got a tasty "Citrix" strain that came from Colorado.

Tangerine dream also came back with a very unique orange diesel taste that lingered on your lips. This lead to planting 3 or 4 different diesel crosses for this years taste test and im also doing some original skunk hunting this season.

I like the way you think. I put a couple buds in the freezer to make some fresh frozen rosin!

Tangerine Dream sounds amazing. I’ll look into it. I’m in Colorado too, any idea who the breeder of the Citrix was?



So day 68 it is!!

Did a partial harvest today. First buds downnnnn. Took all the uv burned nugs and anything that was about to be yellowed into the nug. The sugar leaves were fading hard. The fan leaves had faded pretty well. Trichomes looked about 30% amber so should be good to go!

Harvested about 40 tops total. Some weighed 40-50g wet so should be a good 7-10g’s on some nugs! Going to try to dry them over 7-10 days then paper bag for a day then into jars burping for 10-15 minutes 2x a day for the first week, then once a day for the next week.

40 tops X 4 grams (conservative estimate) = 160 grams. That’s about 5.7 ounces not including all that is left on the plant! And there’s a lot left!

I attached some harvest pictures! The nugs looked better than i expected! Real sticky. Should have used gloves haha. Can’t wait to smoke more of it! It smelled like a pumpkin patch being harvested.

The plain water flush seemed to have helped. She looks good after doing a couple plain waterings. Smoke report to come after the cure!


Still have TONS of material left on the plant. Just took main tops this time. But it still has a full canopy lol. Going to let the rest of the plant keep going for another day or two or three and see what happens. Hopefully it increases the yield! Lots of good sized nugs left still
 
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And here is the herm b**** as she sits now. Took about 40 tops off today but there is still lots of canopy left! Might need to go get another drying box lol

The last pic is what she looked like before
 
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And here is the herm b**** as she sits now. Took about 40 tops off today but there is still lots of canopy left! Might need to go get another drying box lol

The last pic is what she looked like before
I thought you said you harvested around a QP??? It don't look like you even chopped off a sample branch. Great job, too bad for the sex change she decided to go through.

The Citrix beans are "Reserva Privada Colorado" and were purchased at "the clinic" I had a set of 1 gallon bubble bags i traded for these beans and some others.

I put a couple buds in the freezer to make some fresh frozen rosin!
To make fresh frozen rosin you have to make WPFF (whole plant fresh frozen) bubble/ice hash and let that dry for a couple days (unless you got freeze drier) and then squish that through a 25 or 37 micron pouch.

If you try to squish just the buds wet/fresh you will just get back purple water. Buds normally need about 2-3 days of hang drying before you can squish and collect what comes out. lots of my friends will trim and hang for a week and then freeze so when they want to squish some fresh rosin they can just pull a nug out of the freezer and the humidity is good. (when squishing you want 50%-60% humidity)
 
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I thought you said you harvested around a QP??? It don't look like you even chopped off a sample branch. Great job, too bad for the sex change she decided to go through.

The Citrix beans are "Reserva Privada Colorado" and were purchased at "the clinic" I had a set of 1 gallon bubble bags i traded for these beans and some others.


To make fresh frozen rosin you have to make WPFF (whole plant fresh frozen) bubble/ice hash and let that dry for a couple days (unless you got freeze drier) and then squish that through a 25 or 37 micron pouch.

If you try to squish just the buds wet/fresh you will just get back purple water. Buds normally need about 2-3 days of hang drying before you can squish and collect what comes out. lots of my friends will trim and hang for a week and then freeze so when they want to squish some fresh rosin they can just pull a nug out of the freezer and the humidity is good. (when squishing you want 50%-60% humidity)

I did harvest those 40ish nugs and the canopy is still almost full! Those 2 cardboard boxes in the pics are full of nugs Lol. There is/was a ton of undergrowth! And those nugs don’t look like popcorn either. Interested to see if the rest of the plant fattens up more over the next few days or week. The leaves are still nice and green. I don’t see any bananas on the undergrowth either - reason unknown.

I’m going to see if I can try to find some of those (or at least something from the clinic).

Ohhh I just assumed you could make fresh frozen rosin with bud. Didn’t think it through, thanks for saving me the trial and error! Guess I’ll freeze more and just attempt to make some live resin BHO. I can make good shatter, but have never tried anything fresh. I really need to learn the art of bubble hash. That would be awesome to have access to WPFF bubble hash.

I’m going to try what you said your friends do - dry some for a few days then freeze it for rosin later. Is there a way to estimate the RH of the nugs? Based off the initial weight?
 
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