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I see it time and time, then again as always people consider their information valid since it's a 'total opinion'.
I will start with the easiest and most common 'cannabis' error. I used this mistake for a long time myself and it's no big deal. But a phenotype is an environmentally influenced difference. Say with clones grown by separate people but the same exact genetic specimen. These same clones that have not gone through flowering or hermi on someone before passing, while your best bud didn't get that age of clone...or say some buds that purple up next to the cool intake (that one plant that got purple).
A GENOTYPE, is the unique genetic traits among a generation with the same parents. I have made a strong note to myself, to no longer use phenotype to express what are indeed genotypes.
Which brings the second batch of burnt biscuits:mad0233: There are no GENOTYPES that are totally one parent or the other. It's wrong and misleading to say you found the 'favored' parent totally in the next generation. That would be impossible and very difficult within even a back crossing program that went through a thousand plants for ten generations with DNA examinations to confirm the selected parents.
A lot of seed ads use these wrong terms, crosses are like shuffling a deck. You get a totally random new genetic SEQUENCE, it's really simple stuff but it irks me! It's false information and it makes me think that people are afraid to be made fun of so wrong information becomes 'acceptable'.
One a personal note, I get sick of seeing these clone only's. What made these forums so great other than the excellent horticulture info specific for this favored plant....was so much information on so many SEED strains. When it comes to putting down anywhere from 30 to 200 or possible several hundred if an auction, ya wanna know the breeders history, batch information and most of all, peoples RESULTS with genotypes as well as things to worry about (why not to put this plant outside or not a great gal for the hydro!).
:icon_animal26: Not to really 'freak anyone out', but it seems that it is just bad taste to go carrying about this hobby with terms that felt good to learn but BONK!
As well as that F5's or how ever far down are not a problem, unless you didn't notice traits....you were all about that 'pheno' which yes is a wrong term for genotype...that isn't exactly Purple Urkle but shows 'traits' more on that side....it's not trustworthy information to say it is the parent mostly but not exactly what traits. Anyhow a lot of selecting for future generations of 'inbreeding', can really weed out bad genes...things that were not nice to see, if the gene pool is large enough or someone can mark DNA for this plant.
I mostly just feel like chatting and, most of these pages are quite similar so I just look for facts and the mood is usually the same. If it's a grow journal, it's all about the strain (boring anymore for having so many clone only's that don't really change other than phenotypes or some bad batch). As well as nutrients used, ratio's, blah blah blah some new 'fancy' light or equipment.
Fact is this hobby gets old to read SOBER:sign0065:, I do miss seeing more seed grows...and ya they are a pain in that ass. Another thing, is that FEMs are not missing anything in their smoke...they have a slight tendancy to hermi and that depends on how bad they were stressed...it's probably good to condition plants to the chemical or method used to fem...why, because DNA does condition itself, that is why fem seeds RISK making new seeds...there is a bit of information passed along that hermi did occur so that is a risk with future seeds...but plants conditioned, well think of feming a mom then using her clones time and time again and the mom always makes some seeds...I'd bet it wouldn't shock her as much...like not just dousing her with some silver solution, but easing her into it...fact is it is a risk with fem seeds to breed and they might show that hermi trait as people do warn about...but the smoke is not inferior or 'lacking'...you can't sense DNA in the smoke, I don't care how cool or delusional of a pot smoker you are, it's not science.
Anyhow, argue, post information that burns your biscuits or just rant and rave for a fun thread. It's just that some information passes like the golden ticket and it's just not that valid...or to much trouble to say it the way it really is!:winking0067:
So basically there is information post 'mother' birth about her environment that is passed on, this is a 'test' unless it reoccurs every generation...that is what is called a mutation (not really freak plants, as we commonly use the term). A good understanding of what the term phenotype really means, is a clone outdoors verses indoors...vast differences. It's just good to use the valid terms, since phenotype refers to what you do with the genetics verses what the genetics are! Which is why I feel it's so important for people to really watch out for saying look I find the full blueberry genotype that was crossed with three different plants....it's not going to happen unless it's an F10 and probably not going to happen with peoples expectations yielding more results than what are actually present.
With inbreeding, a loss of 'hybrid vigor' can occur, but the truth is with a inbreeding program....start with larger numbers and remember that ever generation you grow from those seeds....need to be marked and recorded, and don't settle for that plant that was not showing more progress than decline because you put so much energy into it. It's really great that with so many people tinkering around, that seeds still have a place. With so many people growing beans, it's a good time to bring up another misleading fact if not used correctly. That would be that seeds make your plant less potent, this is true but not if it's a bottom bud with a tiny paint brush for say 10 or 20 maybe even 30 seeds in a plant that isn't only having 10 or 20 bud sites (which does have a lot more calyxes). But with people not misleading about their genotypes used and grown out to see just what traits their parents were hiding or exactly how strong the genetic sequence for traits were.
It seems that purple genes are mostly a sequence, that is why some plants show a little purple, then other plants can show a lot of purple as well as if it's the leaf or the calyxes that change color..as well as how deep of a purple, as pink and blue are not far away on respectfully.
I think that is about it, people to complain about a seed pack but it's hard to ignore a real keeper plant...that is a good one to find some pollen from a well grown out source...the truth is with an F1, that F2 or any hybrid of second generation...is going to show those traits that you didn't want to see or an 'equal chance' the traits that you were surprised and prefer seeing.
With the fems passing on information to some genotypes that a hermi was developed as that was how they were born....it brings up a good fact that isn't often equally translated to similar situations....that would be, breeding outdoors will pass on information about your environmental....so making crosses outdoors or indoors over many generations becomes transparent. It seems it doesn't usually make sense to new growers, why there are 'indoor' or 'outdoor' plants...they do accustom and they do so quickly...these plants especially with indoors, have life cycles of two months if a SOG and the usual one year if outdoors.
I know that these forums usually have a feeling of 'being within the 'dark society''. But fact is it's good to use valid information, it seems that there are back slides in progress due to people not knowing simple biology. It's not a sure shot that the sexy mother clone is going to have great children....I went through a pack of OG Kush S1 and found all sorts of traits that were hiding. Good god, the plants with INdica leafs formed the most SAtiva buds...then the plant with the most sativa leafs, had some dense crystal madness!
It would be nice but I am not volunteering, to release a blueberry IBL (someone other than DJ or friend who charges more than 30 bucks)...I think Cannacopia shows what a good F1 can do for 30 bucks....The only reason DP has problems is that they don't record their breeding...it seems they don't keep track of generations...you can still increase 'hybrid vigor' with inbreeding....what do you think ganja did in a valley that didn't see any other influences...other than inbreeding?
I have some beans and going to do outdoor, as I just play around way to much with them indoors. Some good INdica plants, but mostly fem as it's a long process of way to many numbers and that obsession, total freaking obsession with finding that genotype. there are two different forms of hermaphrodites, the banana which isn't a big deal and then the freaking bud sites of total male and total female sex traits...that is a 'real hermi'....little banana's don't do much but they do cause alarm and even the best genetics at the end show a banana or two...not huge clumps of balls.
It's just winter and I haven't started the outdoor plants vegging yet. I had some nice beans and freaked out about bad soil, I didn't get my mixture made...was dealing with some other issues of the utmost priority. Lost some nice freaking genetics so I figured that some fems take the number hunt down to one of each strain (seven going out)...the holes are not filled in, I didn't want to do that in the fall with good soil that will just leach out all of those nutrients...they will be about 3 months old going out and with these cool CFL 125 watters they don't stretch with a close light.
Also thinking about spending 100 bucks on a very cool LED 13 watt, for a night light that is more pleasant in a room. I don't have many standard seeds, which feels like something is lacking...fact is I gotta watch out for any crosses and yep buying fems still makes me want to preserve traits from those to do projects..that will surely IBL traits somewhere around the line...I know an IBL says more than it has to be, it just means more than one generation inbreed with any ancestor...not exactly perfectly uniform genotypes.
It's just such a huge deal to go through a ten pack and with land race fems you know there are no hidden surprises...with these freaking F1 fems it's a problem, you are going to find traits that are absurd if it was an Indica sativa F1...but a lot of strains that are hybrids are not F1's.
I've spent more money on genetics in the past than bud recovered, these forums overload with information and the air that it is a privilege. I feel better about outdoors, not trying to go for a pound a plant...honestly a QP is more of a guerrilla yield but yes a pound isn't that bad but damn, that looks like a tree not a camo plant.
I have to go a ways on 'foot' for these too, at least a mile it's probably more like three just to get there...it's hidden pretty well but man when it comes to eyes in the sky that is the 'fear'. Anyhow they are mostly land race fems, Pakistan Vally (which I only read one positive grow report and some bad talkers with nothing more than a negative response)....X-18 Fem, ya I know should of picked up the standard but not searching before even finding a hope of putting on outside....Matanuska Tundra which has Kazakhstan and would be great to put some DC, Hindu Kush, DC x Nepal, Afghani or Shiva Shanti pollen onto...as those are the only seeds I have left that could be males but not working those or even a few of the standard beans until next winter....after seeing what the clones of the fems do outdoors.
Also a fem of Mazar Kush, Purple Wreck which I am curious exactly how that deck of genotypes was shuffled.....I've seen more train wreck shaped plants and more Purple Urkle traits but fact is it could be anywhere in between...I rarely hear about genetic sequences that pass in bunches...such as red hair genes with humans passes with a low IQ, it doesn't work that way!
A homegrown Fantaseed Afghani fem, have a few Sensi Afghani #1 but that is mostly to see how the females compare as well as hopefully a male...I do hope for a keeper male with standard beans...but not as much as I also know that it's not a do or die situation with F1 genetics...they lurk if you are willing to search in any number required to find that sequence that doesn't have negative recessive traits...well negative for our interest.
Oh a fem of Greenhouse seeds Bubba kush which has to be more stable than the OG Kush selfed...I heard bad things about Greenhouse seeds and especially their Bubba, which honestly I never saw any grow pics..ever, it seems it has to be a shuffle somewhere and not as many vastly different genotypes than the OG...the OG was a kush probably Hindu with a Lemon Thai which are very different parents....with the bubba it's bubble gum and Hindu Kush which are very stable and quite similar..so probably not as chaotic of a shuffling. This one is the real risk for mold outside, never saw any form of bubba ever survive...probably rather it this with some HK pollen somewhere down the line...see what develops.
Got a bunch of freebie fems, can't wait to try some of these out. Blue Hash being one, might even buy a pack of these some day....never really liked how blueberry is so Sativa and yet people try and say that it's mostly indica and that is just untrue...the Indica buds are a rare genotype, most are very sativa. I'd say it's at least 80 Sativa as far as genotype statistics but even the sativa buds show some mystery indica features that are not that noticeable for being indica traits...just shorter flowering time and not as stretchy.
Ya it's a long post, it seems if it's not pictures it's not to interesting.:no Just so bored, would be harvesting if I didn't whack the plants but man a frustrating issue makes throwing them out feel good for awhile to get a clean start on something that actually yields...I only have 500 watts of CFL's...five 125 watters...both cool and warm bulbs. With these lights, you odn't want so much as one mistake or it's a huge difference.
I lost a lot of good genetics and mostly felt bad about losing the original blueberry which I had 4 left after some disaster...figured if it's the pheno hunt might as well just buy another pack...felt bad about the Bubba Kush x DC too....but the Govt Mule smelled the most wonderful and over powered ever plant in veg..it was a strong fruity bubble gum...as I hear that Pacific G13 is basically a bubble gum cross...might even be with the real G13 clone which was just an indica with a strong taste but not the most rank smell in the bags I got..just a good bud and not totally different...and ya it was a good nug, it was a college that had a lot of 'real deals'. Lost the Agent Orange too which had a great germination ratio, had horrible with the bubba x DC and blueberry...a problem with mold due to grower error, added something that was not a good idea that early...a real lose of cash, not a proud moment! Just glad that DJ isn't out of blueberry, just the 'sativa' male..which isn't a big deal for an indica lover, a Sativa just will not survive out here...it's not a ripe plant if it does. I like my sativa's but anything that isn't done and well done by the end of October is seriously a risk! I mean that with a sativa it's going to be a huge yield and I'm not able to take all of a large grow back in a weather crisis.
Basically I am bored and getting over a lot of the 'kid shit' for growing weed..that doesn't help the actual process....a lot of facts have been observed by me over the years, since 2001 and I haven't grown anything to have a stash..ran into genotypes and didn't go for that yield as I never did find that hydro clone....it's a long process to find that keeper as well as even more to stabilize a strain just for your hydro needs.
You never want to ad molasses early around germination, I had some polymer plugs in the soil with seeds...grew mold badly! Lost a lot of money in that but lessons learned are worth that all mighty dollar. I wouldn't even add catalyst early, I have learned that it's better to mix a good soil than want to stock up when the plant starts germinating..or hopes to!
Losing Agent Orange was a real bitch, there were differences in fragrance early on in veg with a rub...definitely one that was a rank stank orange...probably buy this one back...I honestly want to have Mountain strains from India stabilize good outdoor traits with resin plants....Agent Orange has sativa features but there is a more rare block head dominate genotype...it seems that when SAtiva traits come they usually do a lot!
I just don't have the time for Sativa plants, I'm all for sativa potency with Indica growth diameters and timing. I am a bit worried about the DC and DC x Nepal beans I got from THC bay, they are premature to say the least..just not green and white, a little bit and I mean just a tad of marble showing...these were early picked beans and need protected or grown out soon...I just don't. have the time yet. Guess I could start these but I'm not going to the hardware store for some Uncle Malcom's just yet...not this many bags, and not this time of year...I know that has to look really really bad, not something I need anyone to know about.:character0095:
I will start with the easiest and most common 'cannabis' error. I used this mistake for a long time myself and it's no big deal. But a phenotype is an environmentally influenced difference. Say with clones grown by separate people but the same exact genetic specimen. These same clones that have not gone through flowering or hermi on someone before passing, while your best bud didn't get that age of clone...or say some buds that purple up next to the cool intake (that one plant that got purple).
A GENOTYPE, is the unique genetic traits among a generation with the same parents. I have made a strong note to myself, to no longer use phenotype to express what are indeed genotypes.
Which brings the second batch of burnt biscuits:mad0233: There are no GENOTYPES that are totally one parent or the other. It's wrong and misleading to say you found the 'favored' parent totally in the next generation. That would be impossible and very difficult within even a back crossing program that went through a thousand plants for ten generations with DNA examinations to confirm the selected parents.
A lot of seed ads use these wrong terms, crosses are like shuffling a deck. You get a totally random new genetic SEQUENCE, it's really simple stuff but it irks me! It's false information and it makes me think that people are afraid to be made fun of so wrong information becomes 'acceptable'.
One a personal note, I get sick of seeing these clone only's. What made these forums so great other than the excellent horticulture info specific for this favored plant....was so much information on so many SEED strains. When it comes to putting down anywhere from 30 to 200 or possible several hundred if an auction, ya wanna know the breeders history, batch information and most of all, peoples RESULTS with genotypes as well as things to worry about (why not to put this plant outside or not a great gal for the hydro!).
:icon_animal26: Not to really 'freak anyone out', but it seems that it is just bad taste to go carrying about this hobby with terms that felt good to learn but BONK!
As well as that F5's or how ever far down are not a problem, unless you didn't notice traits....you were all about that 'pheno' which yes is a wrong term for genotype...that isn't exactly Purple Urkle but shows 'traits' more on that side....it's not trustworthy information to say it is the parent mostly but not exactly what traits. Anyhow a lot of selecting for future generations of 'inbreeding', can really weed out bad genes...things that were not nice to see, if the gene pool is large enough or someone can mark DNA for this plant.
I mostly just feel like chatting and, most of these pages are quite similar so I just look for facts and the mood is usually the same. If it's a grow journal, it's all about the strain (boring anymore for having so many clone only's that don't really change other than phenotypes or some bad batch). As well as nutrients used, ratio's, blah blah blah some new 'fancy' light or equipment.
Fact is this hobby gets old to read SOBER:sign0065:, I do miss seeing more seed grows...and ya they are a pain in that ass. Another thing, is that FEMs are not missing anything in their smoke...they have a slight tendancy to hermi and that depends on how bad they were stressed...it's probably good to condition plants to the chemical or method used to fem...why, because DNA does condition itself, that is why fem seeds RISK making new seeds...there is a bit of information passed along that hermi did occur so that is a risk with future seeds...but plants conditioned, well think of feming a mom then using her clones time and time again and the mom always makes some seeds...I'd bet it wouldn't shock her as much...like not just dousing her with some silver solution, but easing her into it...fact is it is a risk with fem seeds to breed and they might show that hermi trait as people do warn about...but the smoke is not inferior or 'lacking'...you can't sense DNA in the smoke, I don't care how cool or delusional of a pot smoker you are, it's not science.
Anyhow, argue, post information that burns your biscuits or just rant and rave for a fun thread. It's just that some information passes like the golden ticket and it's just not that valid...or to much trouble to say it the way it really is!:winking0067:
So basically there is information post 'mother' birth about her environment that is passed on, this is a 'test' unless it reoccurs every generation...that is what is called a mutation (not really freak plants, as we commonly use the term). A good understanding of what the term phenotype really means, is a clone outdoors verses indoors...vast differences. It's just good to use the valid terms, since phenotype refers to what you do with the genetics verses what the genetics are! Which is why I feel it's so important for people to really watch out for saying look I find the full blueberry genotype that was crossed with three different plants....it's not going to happen unless it's an F10 and probably not going to happen with peoples expectations yielding more results than what are actually present.
With inbreeding, a loss of 'hybrid vigor' can occur, but the truth is with a inbreeding program....start with larger numbers and remember that ever generation you grow from those seeds....need to be marked and recorded, and don't settle for that plant that was not showing more progress than decline because you put so much energy into it. It's really great that with so many people tinkering around, that seeds still have a place. With so many people growing beans, it's a good time to bring up another misleading fact if not used correctly. That would be that seeds make your plant less potent, this is true but not if it's a bottom bud with a tiny paint brush for say 10 or 20 maybe even 30 seeds in a plant that isn't only having 10 or 20 bud sites (which does have a lot more calyxes). But with people not misleading about their genotypes used and grown out to see just what traits their parents were hiding or exactly how strong the genetic sequence for traits were.
It seems that purple genes are mostly a sequence, that is why some plants show a little purple, then other plants can show a lot of purple as well as if it's the leaf or the calyxes that change color..as well as how deep of a purple, as pink and blue are not far away on respectfully.
I think that is about it, people to complain about a seed pack but it's hard to ignore a real keeper plant...that is a good one to find some pollen from a well grown out source...the truth is with an F1, that F2 or any hybrid of second generation...is going to show those traits that you didn't want to see or an 'equal chance' the traits that you were surprised and prefer seeing.
With the fems passing on information to some genotypes that a hermi was developed as that was how they were born....it brings up a good fact that isn't often equally translated to similar situations....that would be, breeding outdoors will pass on information about your environmental....so making crosses outdoors or indoors over many generations becomes transparent. It seems it doesn't usually make sense to new growers, why there are 'indoor' or 'outdoor' plants...they do accustom and they do so quickly...these plants especially with indoors, have life cycles of two months if a SOG and the usual one year if outdoors.
I know that these forums usually have a feeling of 'being within the 'dark society''. But fact is it's good to use valid information, it seems that there are back slides in progress due to people not knowing simple biology. It's not a sure shot that the sexy mother clone is going to have great children....I went through a pack of OG Kush S1 and found all sorts of traits that were hiding. Good god, the plants with INdica leafs formed the most SAtiva buds...then the plant with the most sativa leafs, had some dense crystal madness!
It would be nice but I am not volunteering, to release a blueberry IBL (someone other than DJ or friend who charges more than 30 bucks)...I think Cannacopia shows what a good F1 can do for 30 bucks....The only reason DP has problems is that they don't record their breeding...it seems they don't keep track of generations...you can still increase 'hybrid vigor' with inbreeding....what do you think ganja did in a valley that didn't see any other influences...other than inbreeding?
I have some beans and going to do outdoor, as I just play around way to much with them indoors. Some good INdica plants, but mostly fem as it's a long process of way to many numbers and that obsession, total freaking obsession with finding that genotype. there are two different forms of hermaphrodites, the banana which isn't a big deal and then the freaking bud sites of total male and total female sex traits...that is a 'real hermi'....little banana's don't do much but they do cause alarm and even the best genetics at the end show a banana or two...not huge clumps of balls.
It's just winter and I haven't started the outdoor plants vegging yet. I had some nice beans and freaked out about bad soil, I didn't get my mixture made...was dealing with some other issues of the utmost priority. Lost some nice freaking genetics so I figured that some fems take the number hunt down to one of each strain (seven going out)...the holes are not filled in, I didn't want to do that in the fall with good soil that will just leach out all of those nutrients...they will be about 3 months old going out and with these cool CFL 125 watters they don't stretch with a close light.
Also thinking about spending 100 bucks on a very cool LED 13 watt, for a night light that is more pleasant in a room. I don't have many standard seeds, which feels like something is lacking...fact is I gotta watch out for any crosses and yep buying fems still makes me want to preserve traits from those to do projects..that will surely IBL traits somewhere around the line...I know an IBL says more than it has to be, it just means more than one generation inbreed with any ancestor...not exactly perfectly uniform genotypes.
It's just such a huge deal to go through a ten pack and with land race fems you know there are no hidden surprises...with these freaking F1 fems it's a problem, you are going to find traits that are absurd if it was an Indica sativa F1...but a lot of strains that are hybrids are not F1's.
I've spent more money on genetics in the past than bud recovered, these forums overload with information and the air that it is a privilege. I feel better about outdoors, not trying to go for a pound a plant...honestly a QP is more of a guerrilla yield but yes a pound isn't that bad but damn, that looks like a tree not a camo plant.
I have to go a ways on 'foot' for these too, at least a mile it's probably more like three just to get there...it's hidden pretty well but man when it comes to eyes in the sky that is the 'fear'. Anyhow they are mostly land race fems, Pakistan Vally (which I only read one positive grow report and some bad talkers with nothing more than a negative response)....X-18 Fem, ya I know should of picked up the standard but not searching before even finding a hope of putting on outside....Matanuska Tundra which has Kazakhstan and would be great to put some DC, Hindu Kush, DC x Nepal, Afghani or Shiva Shanti pollen onto...as those are the only seeds I have left that could be males but not working those or even a few of the standard beans until next winter....after seeing what the clones of the fems do outdoors.
Also a fem of Mazar Kush, Purple Wreck which I am curious exactly how that deck of genotypes was shuffled.....I've seen more train wreck shaped plants and more Purple Urkle traits but fact is it could be anywhere in between...I rarely hear about genetic sequences that pass in bunches...such as red hair genes with humans passes with a low IQ, it doesn't work that way!
A homegrown Fantaseed Afghani fem, have a few Sensi Afghani #1 but that is mostly to see how the females compare as well as hopefully a male...I do hope for a keeper male with standard beans...but not as much as I also know that it's not a do or die situation with F1 genetics...they lurk if you are willing to search in any number required to find that sequence that doesn't have negative recessive traits...well negative for our interest.
Oh a fem of Greenhouse seeds Bubba kush which has to be more stable than the OG Kush selfed...I heard bad things about Greenhouse seeds and especially their Bubba, which honestly I never saw any grow pics..ever, it seems it has to be a shuffle somewhere and not as many vastly different genotypes than the OG...the OG was a kush probably Hindu with a Lemon Thai which are very different parents....with the bubba it's bubble gum and Hindu Kush which are very stable and quite similar..so probably not as chaotic of a shuffling. This one is the real risk for mold outside, never saw any form of bubba ever survive...probably rather it this with some HK pollen somewhere down the line...see what develops.
Got a bunch of freebie fems, can't wait to try some of these out. Blue Hash being one, might even buy a pack of these some day....never really liked how blueberry is so Sativa and yet people try and say that it's mostly indica and that is just untrue...the Indica buds are a rare genotype, most are very sativa. I'd say it's at least 80 Sativa as far as genotype statistics but even the sativa buds show some mystery indica features that are not that noticeable for being indica traits...just shorter flowering time and not as stretchy.
Ya it's a long post, it seems if it's not pictures it's not to interesting.:no Just so bored, would be harvesting if I didn't whack the plants but man a frustrating issue makes throwing them out feel good for awhile to get a clean start on something that actually yields...I only have 500 watts of CFL's...five 125 watters...both cool and warm bulbs. With these lights, you odn't want so much as one mistake or it's a huge difference.
I lost a lot of good genetics and mostly felt bad about losing the original blueberry which I had 4 left after some disaster...figured if it's the pheno hunt might as well just buy another pack...felt bad about the Bubba Kush x DC too....but the Govt Mule smelled the most wonderful and over powered ever plant in veg..it was a strong fruity bubble gum...as I hear that Pacific G13 is basically a bubble gum cross...might even be with the real G13 clone which was just an indica with a strong taste but not the most rank smell in the bags I got..just a good bud and not totally different...and ya it was a good nug, it was a college that had a lot of 'real deals'. Lost the Agent Orange too which had a great germination ratio, had horrible with the bubba x DC and blueberry...a problem with mold due to grower error, added something that was not a good idea that early...a real lose of cash, not a proud moment! Just glad that DJ isn't out of blueberry, just the 'sativa' male..which isn't a big deal for an indica lover, a Sativa just will not survive out here...it's not a ripe plant if it does. I like my sativa's but anything that isn't done and well done by the end of October is seriously a risk! I mean that with a sativa it's going to be a huge yield and I'm not able to take all of a large grow back in a weather crisis.
Basically I am bored and getting over a lot of the 'kid shit' for growing weed..that doesn't help the actual process....a lot of facts have been observed by me over the years, since 2001 and I haven't grown anything to have a stash..ran into genotypes and didn't go for that yield as I never did find that hydro clone....it's a long process to find that keeper as well as even more to stabilize a strain just for your hydro needs.
You never want to ad molasses early around germination, I had some polymer plugs in the soil with seeds...grew mold badly! Lost a lot of money in that but lessons learned are worth that all mighty dollar. I wouldn't even add catalyst early, I have learned that it's better to mix a good soil than want to stock up when the plant starts germinating..or hopes to!
Losing Agent Orange was a real bitch, there were differences in fragrance early on in veg with a rub...definitely one that was a rank stank orange...probably buy this one back...I honestly want to have Mountain strains from India stabilize good outdoor traits with resin plants....Agent Orange has sativa features but there is a more rare block head dominate genotype...it seems that when SAtiva traits come they usually do a lot!
I just don't have the time for Sativa plants, I'm all for sativa potency with Indica growth diameters and timing. I am a bit worried about the DC and DC x Nepal beans I got from THC bay, they are premature to say the least..just not green and white, a little bit and I mean just a tad of marble showing...these were early picked beans and need protected or grown out soon...I just don't. have the time yet. Guess I could start these but I'm not going to the hardware store for some Uncle Malcom's just yet...not this many bags, and not this time of year...I know that has to look really really bad, not something I need anyone to know about.:character0095: