why are my plants clawing late into veg?

[benmerkle11]

I had these two girls in a different tent for their whole life up until a week ago when they were transferred to this new tent with the same heating, fans, and lights. when moved to the new tent they immediately started the trellis nets. after watering they clawed. and never really stopped clawing, a couple of days later being obviously dry I watered them and they clawed for a little because of too much water but once bounced back they still look like this. so I'm starting to think they aren't clawing because of under or over-watering. is this from the stress of the trellis nets?, are the lights stressing it out?, do I have too much airflow? could this be too much nitrogen? any suggestions would be appreciated, I couldn't find anyone else's plants clawing like this, this late into veg, I want to flip to flower but don't want to do it until solved. I'm growing organically with Gaia green and fox farm ocean forest soil. after giving 10 cups of water each today I almost this there starting to un claw but slowly and the pots are looking to dry back already, I don't want to keep watering but definitely think they need more water soon or are being under-watered.

 

[Phyto]

What you’re describing and what I’m seeing is not clawing. Clawing is caused by too much nitrogen, and it’s just the tips of the leaves, thin and turned down. It’s drooping, possibly a watering or root issue or stress from the move/new lights.

 

[ArtfulCodger]

Based on the leaf thickness and texture, my guess is chronic overwatering, meaning they've been watered too frequently for a while. In my experience, Ocean Forest doesn't do well being watered daily. My best results with it have come when I water slowly to saturation, using between a quarter and a third of the media volume. Then dry it back until the pots are very light...ideally a day or two before you'd see straight-down dehydration droop in the lowers.

 

[BB22]

I had these two girls in a different tent for their whole life up until a week ago when they were transferred to this new tent with the same heating, fans, and lights. when moved to the new tent they immediately started the trellis nets. after watering they clawed. and never really stopped clawing, a couple of days later being obviously dry I watered them and they clawed for a little because of too much water but once bounced back they still look like this. so I'm starting to think they aren't clawing because of under or over-watering. is this from the stress of the trellis nets?, are the lights stressing it out?, do I have too much airflow? could this be too much nitrogen? any suggestions would be appreciated, I couldn't find anyone else's plants clawing like this, this late into veg, I want to flip to flower but don't want to do it until solved. I'm growing organically with Gaia green and fox farm ocean forest soil. after giving 10 cups of water each today I almost this there starting to un claw but slowly and the pots are looking to dry back already, I don't want to keep watering but definitely think they need more water soon or are being under-watered.

Just an educated guess

When you switched tents, did you have way to equally exchange light output? I’m thinking that they need more dry back before watering. I grow soil also

 

[R4V3N]

If it were under-watering the stems to the leaves would droop too, but the stems still point up while the leaves droop. Could you have given them a too high or too low pH in a feeding? It seems like a root issue, sometimes the leaves simply point to the problem. They just look heavy, and full of water, kinda like the plant is drunk.

Try putting a small grill over your drain plate, and setting the pot on the grill, to let the air get underneath at the fabric bottom. Your roots could be bundled up around that area and are just constantly wet? A good 3 to 4 days drying, if you notice the stems to the leaves drooping too, then you need water. When that happens, subtract one day from how long you went without watering. You don't want bright light in stress times either, take it down to an early veg intensity, or light distance.

 

[John_Kramer]

P def

 

[Eledin]

P def

Dude are you going around dead posts and saying random shit? How is that P defficiency? Are you a troll?