Max Frost
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Hi folks,
I'm hoping somebody can help me identify and correct this! I've seen this type thing in a couple of previous grows and even had it lab analyzed. The lab report came back listing a variety of molds present. It's been several years and I can't remember all of them now. The only one that sticks out in my mind was pennicillium.
When I had this before, my home had a terrible mold infestation going on. In fact, the home-builder had to shell out over $30,000 for a intensive mold remediation of the home. The cause turned out to be a defect in the way they had hooked up the AC ventilation system, and moisture became trapped. It turned into a mold farm and the AC carried it all through the house. On that grow, I chalked it up to that. I figured that since mold was growing in my carpeting, flooring, and all through the house, it only made sense that it was just too big an infestation, and it got the plants too.
This time, I'm in a different state, with none of the same equipment/supplies. There is nothing from that old house where I am now, so I know it hasn't become contaminated that way. I'm not even positive that it is mold this time. It looks a bit different, although very similar.
Can anybody please help me identify what this is? And even more importantly...how do I get rid of this and prevent it in the future? Your help will be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks in advance!
Here are the quick facts and pics...
NOTE: You can see my set-up and these plants at the link in my sig below to "The Maxy Pad".
Set-up - Approx 10' x 12' room with a 3x4 tent for flowering, a 2x4 tent for veg, and a 2x2 tent set up for drying.
Ventillation - I am unable to vent outside at all. I am in an apartment. I pull the air from my tents with a 6" and a 4" fan/filter combo to scrub the odor, and the air is exhausted back into the room. The grow-room door stays open at all times during lights on, and is closed while I'm at work during the day with only the T-5 running in the veg tent. It's not stuffy in there. There air circulation seems good since I can leave the door open most all the time. Temps in the room are stable and in range, and I'm adding CO2 with 3 Refresh bags. (5) 6" circulation fans for circulation. (Everything is always swaying in the breeze in my tents. I'm a believer in air-flow).
RH - Humidity was running on the high side in veg...around 70-80%. I now have a dehumidifier going. Humidity ranges from 50-60% currently.
Temps - Was keeping the temp at around 78f, but since adding the CO2 have stepped it up to 82-84f.
Light - Flower: Started with VHO T-5, switched to Inda-gro PAR 420 w/ pontoon. Currently on a 13/11 photoperiod. / Veg: T-5, bloom spectrum, 24 hr. schedule
Medium - FF soil cut with 1/4 chunky perlite.
Nutes - Fox Farm line-up. Supplement with organic compost teas as of lately.
Watering - I water to saturation, and then will not water again until the soil is thoroughly dried out and the pot is very light. (I'm confident they're not over watered).
Here are some pics of what I'm seeing. I just bought this USB microscope so I could post these shots. (This is a cool little gadget! I'll never look at my trics with the handheld scope again)!!!
Anyway...here's what I'm seeing...
Low power leaf shot:
A little closer...same leaf:
Here's a shot from a different leaf...
And these pics are from a tester bud I harvested a couple of days ago that is still drying. THANKFULLY...this mold or whatever it is, seems to be mainly on the bud leaves and not so much on the buds themselves. I've smoked a tester like this and there's no discernible taste, odor or effect (not coughing your head off like with storage molds). When I had this before, it did effect the smoke some. It did make you cough some.
Bud pic (SB) zoom out:
Zoom in...
Again...I would be most grateful if anyone can tell me for certain what this is (if it's mold as I suspect, or not) and what can I do to treat and then prevent it? I'm concerned since I've had this before that maybe it's something I'm doing wrong...but I do not know what. I thought I had all the bases pretty well covered!
Thank you!
Max :wacky:
I'm hoping somebody can help me identify and correct this! I've seen this type thing in a couple of previous grows and even had it lab analyzed. The lab report came back listing a variety of molds present. It's been several years and I can't remember all of them now. The only one that sticks out in my mind was pennicillium.
When I had this before, my home had a terrible mold infestation going on. In fact, the home-builder had to shell out over $30,000 for a intensive mold remediation of the home. The cause turned out to be a defect in the way they had hooked up the AC ventilation system, and moisture became trapped. It turned into a mold farm and the AC carried it all through the house. On that grow, I chalked it up to that. I figured that since mold was growing in my carpeting, flooring, and all through the house, it only made sense that it was just too big an infestation, and it got the plants too.
This time, I'm in a different state, with none of the same equipment/supplies. There is nothing from that old house where I am now, so I know it hasn't become contaminated that way. I'm not even positive that it is mold this time. It looks a bit different, although very similar.
Can anybody please help me identify what this is? And even more importantly...how do I get rid of this and prevent it in the future? Your help will be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks in advance!
Here are the quick facts and pics...
NOTE: You can see my set-up and these plants at the link in my sig below to "The Maxy Pad".
Set-up - Approx 10' x 12' room with a 3x4 tent for flowering, a 2x4 tent for veg, and a 2x2 tent set up for drying.
Ventillation - I am unable to vent outside at all. I am in an apartment. I pull the air from my tents with a 6" and a 4" fan/filter combo to scrub the odor, and the air is exhausted back into the room. The grow-room door stays open at all times during lights on, and is closed while I'm at work during the day with only the T-5 running in the veg tent. It's not stuffy in there. There air circulation seems good since I can leave the door open most all the time. Temps in the room are stable and in range, and I'm adding CO2 with 3 Refresh bags. (5) 6" circulation fans for circulation. (Everything is always swaying in the breeze in my tents. I'm a believer in air-flow).
RH - Humidity was running on the high side in veg...around 70-80%. I now have a dehumidifier going. Humidity ranges from 50-60% currently.
Temps - Was keeping the temp at around 78f, but since adding the CO2 have stepped it up to 82-84f.
Light - Flower: Started with VHO T-5, switched to Inda-gro PAR 420 w/ pontoon. Currently on a 13/11 photoperiod. / Veg: T-5, bloom spectrum, 24 hr. schedule
Medium - FF soil cut with 1/4 chunky perlite.
Nutes - Fox Farm line-up. Supplement with organic compost teas as of lately.
Watering - I water to saturation, and then will not water again until the soil is thoroughly dried out and the pot is very light. (I'm confident they're not over watered).
Here are some pics of what I'm seeing. I just bought this USB microscope so I could post these shots. (This is a cool little gadget! I'll never look at my trics with the handheld scope again)!!!
Anyway...here's what I'm seeing...
Low power leaf shot:
A little closer...same leaf:
Here's a shot from a different leaf...
And these pics are from a tester bud I harvested a couple of days ago that is still drying. THANKFULLY...this mold or whatever it is, seems to be mainly on the bud leaves and not so much on the buds themselves. I've smoked a tester like this and there's no discernible taste, odor or effect (not coughing your head off like with storage molds). When I had this before, it did effect the smoke some. It did make you cough some.
Bud pic (SB) zoom out:
Zoom in...
Again...I would be most grateful if anyone can tell me for certain what this is (if it's mold as I suspect, or not) and what can I do to treat and then prevent it? I'm concerned since I've had this before that maybe it's something I'm doing wrong...but I do not know what. I thought I had all the bases pretty well covered!
Thank you!
Max :wacky: