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Bag Seed Hunting & The Lst Adventure

Discussion in 'Grow Diaries' started by rmoltis, Feb 1, 2016.

  1. rmoltis

    rmoltis The Beast Slayer Supporter

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    Hi everyone,

    It's been a long time coming and it is finally here.
    This is the day I decide to shed my dependence upon others to supply me with green. I mulled it over and it is mostly a financial decision. It is far too expensive to keep purchasing. While it is quite reasonably priced to cultivate.

    Plants are living things and I do enjoy spending time around them. I feel like they communicate in their own ways to us. Just because we can't hear them doesn't mean they can't tell us things.


    I decided to grow some radishes.
    They are an heirloom variety everwilde farms "German giant".
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    The radish seeds next to the bagseed.
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    I filled 6 pots with soil and placed 2 radish seeds in ea spaced 2" apart & .5" deep then lightly watered them
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    Then I placed 2 folded paper towels on a plate then wet. Placed seeds on top of 3 layers with 1 layer as top.
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    Then I placed a smaller plate on top to retain moisture/humidity.
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    Placed in veg chamber with %50 lighting (only 4 outta 8 t5 bulbs switched on) to help assist in keeping temps cozy for the seedlings.
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    For those of you wondering about the details of my space you can check out my planning thread that preceded this thread here.
    https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/rmoltiss-planning-thread.74736/

    My goal is to use my bagseed as training.
    I have decided to try mainlining as my stress training.
    And everything else will be decided as things progress.
     
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  2. rmoltis

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    3 of the 6 seeds have split their shells within the past hr or so (yes I keep checking). 2 of them have small tap root tips emerging about 1/32" if I had to approximate.

    The other 3 seeds have not yet. They will catch up later.

    Radish seeds have yet to show.
    It will be 1-3 days more before I start to see any emerge from the soil (from what I have read).

    I stopped filling the overflow tray for humidity.
    I instead filled a small bucket about 1.5-2 quarts with tap water and placed it inside the space. This has been working great.

    This is the first set of plants I will have started from seed. It is soo much fun.
     
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  3. rmoltis

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    4 outta 6 so far
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  4. tobh

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    Looking good so far. Ime, the paper towel step is unnecessary. Soak the seeds in a shot glass of tap water for 24 hours, throw 1/4-1/2" in the dirt and if they're gonna come up, they'll come up. If they aren't, no paper towel or humidity dome or anything else is gonna make it. Even still, if they're a pain in the ass at that age, probably gonna be a pain in your ass their whole life.

    Keep us posted, I've been curious about growing tuber type veggies indoors, have a yam plant growing right now but I'm at a loss of the next move to make with the damned thing.
     
  5. rmoltis

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    The thing about radishes that attracted me.
    Was the short growth time. 20-30 days until ready to pull and eat. And with how cheap a bunch of heirloom seeds cost it seems worth it.

    My next plan is to get a big bag of radish, broccoli, pea seeds and a few more to grow sprouts.
    The idea of keeping seeds moist for 5 days and they're ready to eat sound great for easy access to your daily veggies.

    Then maybe some herbs & spices.
     
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  6. tobh

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    The only thing I know about growing broccoli is if you intend on growing it full on, you have to grow it during these colder months. Feb is a the time to plant them and harvest at the beginning of april before the clusters flower. Apparently growing it in warmer climates or letting it flower completely makes for a really bitter, unenjoyable veggie.

    The sprouts idea is something I would be interested in knowing more about, but that seems like an awful lot of seeds to go through just to achieve a week's worth of sprouts. Almost would be more worthwhile to just buy em at the store, albeit more convenient.
     
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  7. rmoltis

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    I think I can get a 1lb bag of heirloom radishes for sprouts online for around $10 shipped.

    I will have to experiment a few rounds and see if it is worth it.
    The wife loves the idea of putting sprouts on her sandwiches, salads and more. As well as she likes to remind me to eat my vegetables lol.

    Maybe less convenient compared to buying in store.
    But the quality control you emplore ensures personal quality.
     
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  8. tobh

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    True that and at a pound, that should be more than sufficient for I would think at least 2 weeks, probably closer to a month. Who's your seed retailer for that bulk? If you don't mind me asking
     
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  9. rmoltis

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    Looks like the sprout radish seeds 1lb bag is $7.20
    http://www.everwilde.com/store/Red-...h-Seeds.html?gclid=CNvZ58PQ2MoCFdMYHwodNJMLLQ

    They have more options if you poke around.

    Looks like they do free shipping above $50.
    That may tempt me to snag a bulk buy of different products to save money in the long run.
     
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  10. tobh

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    Now that's a great deal if I've ever seen one. Last seed order I placed, spent like $40 and didn't get a pound of seeds, nor free shipping. Thanks for sharing sir! Very much appreciated
     
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  11. rmoltis

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    No problem.
    It feels good to share information that helps others

    I also do like the genetic diversity they have on that sight.
     
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  12. MrRojos

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    Everyone has they're methods and success can be obtained from many a different angles.What I mean by that is in refrence to the paper towel method being unnecessary statement being true and false.make sense?
    He was right and wrong in a way for reasons I will state.I been growing many years using many methods and alot of growers probably do the same.
    I prefer the paper towel method for a couple reasons.#1 The topsoil dries faster and I am usually to busy to really be on top of keeping it moist 24/7 until they are established enough to not have to be on constant guard.
    #2 I personally like to plant seedlings when they are big enough that first day planted they already are sprouted.
    #3 older seeds tend to need more tlc then newer ones in my experience and the paper towel method gives me a visual plus if not popped I can physicaly pop them (very gently) myself.
    #4 it works for me and I usually get at least 90% germ rate.
    Of course soaking and burying works to! When I do feed crops for deer hell I literally throw seeds while smoking a dubbie,sipping bourbon, riding my 4 wheeler. (Don't Try That At home)
    Don't knock my paper towel style was the point.lol.
    Every bean in that pic germinated although some took longer than others..
    Can post many more pics just like it I almost always get at least 95% germ rate but I'm sure many growers here do to with many different techniques.later dudes :)
     
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  13. rmoltis

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    I agree with what you are saying.
    The most common method I see is the paper towel method.
    It seems to ensure highest germination rate in lowest time.

    Those 4 seeds popped in 24hrs.
    Since I plan on plant stress training.
    Saving time wherever possible will help offset stress training delays.
     
  14. rmoltis

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    At this time it is day 1.5.
    5 outta 6 doing good just 1 more.
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    Also got some classical playing in there for them.
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  15. MrRojos

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    Hell yeah!! I love that man that's awesome I do that to! Wakem up to Nam Era rock,around mid cycle switch to some 80's jams and Mozart while they sleep.
    And eeeeevery now and then throw on some boosie badass for them:)
     
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  16. rmoltis

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one :).
    I was reading a study that used sound stimulation on certain plants.

    Then noted that certain sounds activated or deactivated genes.
    Leading them to hypothesize that plants can "hear"

    They claimed the sample size was too small to be able to rely on it, and that more research would have to be done.


    These plants are alive and want a good experience.
    Maybe if I'm good to them they will be good to me and bless me with a good crop.
     
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    I'm going to weigh in here on the subject of bag seed.

    I understand the 'learning curve' aspect of bag seed as throw away.

    My argument is that genetics may not be everything, but it's close.

    Plant the best genetics you can find and make your learning curve pay off best you can.

    Why spend six months growing a plant that you will never know if things are normal of just bag seed strange.

    Think about it. It's not to late to splash some better seed.
     
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  18. rmoltis

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    My plan is to get my tent dialed in with bagseed.
    They will show me if I have any deficiencies.
    Whether they are environmental, nutritional, humidity, temperatures etc.

    They will help "weed" out the possible problems.

    Also initial seed costs are high for a new grower who just dropped close to $1500 on this whole setup piece by piece.

    So starting what's free will save me money and stress if thing go awry.

    Plus although I don't know what I'm getting.
    I could find nothing good at all.
    Or I might find an awesome keeper Noone expected to be in there.

    I have my 4 packs of exotic gear but want to save the best for last.

    Patience is key to perfect my process.
     
  19. MrRojos

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    Agreed.kind of.lol.I personally splurge for great genetics.But hell at the same time chem came from bag seed so hey if someone wants to give it a whirl why not.
    I have those going right now along with many name brand strains from the upper echelon of breeder but will anything I run spawn a legend like chems bag seed find? Maybe but probably not.pots wierd like that so if someone wants to try great pots bag seed hell why not:)
     
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    I had 1 seed being stubborn it had a very hard shell.
    So I took my fingernail and nic'ed off a tiny edge to allow water into the seed.
    Then made sure the nic'ed edge was face down on the moist paper towel for absorption.

    When should I transplant my seedlings to soil?
    It looks to me like 4 outta 6 are ready.
    They are trying to do the root orientation thing already.

    I am going to prepare my pots by filling them with fresh soil.
    Then giving the soil an initial rinse b4 planting.
    So that I can remove the chance of burning the seedlings.
     
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