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Legion Of Living Organic Soil

Discussion in 'Organic Soil' started by Organikz, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. I see people convert every day. Why not? All you need to do is keep the soil moist and you can produce top shelf medicine. I'm not saying I am a master of any sort but I can answer most questions regarding living organic soil. Everything from building up to maintenance, even though there really isnt any.

    Ask me any questions you may have. I will answer to the best of my ability. As long as you follow the simple recipe that I will share, you only need to add water and you will grow high yielding and potent plants with little to no inputs.
     
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  2. Soil Recipe per cubic foot.

    Equal parts:
    CSPM (Canadian Sphagnum Peat Moss)
    Aeration (Pumice/Lava rock)
    Compost - Homemade is best but Malibus B/U is an excellent choice if it is available in your area.

    Amended per cuF with:
    1/2 - 1 cup Neem or Karanja meal
    1/2 - 1 cup Kelp meal
    1/2 - 1 cup Crab/Crustacean meal
    1 cup MBP (Malted Barley Powder)

    1/2 cup Gypsum (nice sulphur source)
    4-6 cups Basalt dust
    6-8 cups Biochar
    1 cup lime (oyster shell flower, dolomite...)

    ***Small handful of worms per container***
     
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  3. This is my set up. In LOS the idea is the more soil the more forgiving it will be and I also notice much larger yields. I'm talking triple what I pull in a 10g pot. The open spots are where males were culled. I'm hunting gear right now.
     
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  4. The results of LOS. Yep just water. That's all that I used throughout this grow.
     
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  5. I'm with you on the only water process. Nice work. I recently upgraded my soil mix and plan to use only water and a weekly compost tea. I just bought a 3gal compost brewer! Can't wait to brew.
     
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  6. Is this considered a "no till" approach?
     
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  7. What's the cost to produce your recipe u got Goin there
     
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  8. jumpincactus

    jumpincactus Premium Member Supporter

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    indeed correct the larger the LOS area the more buffering capacity it has.:D
     
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  9. jumpincactus

    jumpincactus Premium Member Supporter

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    no till and LOS go hand in hand. by not tilling you keep your biodiversity humming from grow to grow.

    I go one step further a lot of the minerals added when making soil takes some time to really have the microbes mineralize the minerals for uptake in the rhizo zone so some folks will do no till beds for a few months or a season to allow all the microherd to really get humming and then do their planting.

    Great thread @Organikz :D
     
  10. jumpincactus

    jumpincactus Premium Member Supporter

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    this was grown in no till LOS. picture hanging in background is 12 in wide to give reference to the overall head bud size. All lower buds were baseball sized nugzz Water only thru entire run

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  11. jumpincactus

    jumpincactus Premium Member Supporter

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    'Same strain but the sativa leaner in the pair, same soil. the doors are 3 x 7'

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  12. That will depend on your location and the quality of amendments you use. I go for the high quality to prevent issues down the road. There are little tricks as well. Some substitute pond algae for kelp. I also save a lot by going to the quarry for rock dust. If you're buying in larger portions it also comes out cheaper. I buy a #50 bag of neem meal and kelp meal because there is always a need for both.
     
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  13. Those pics look great. They claim you can plant directly but I've noticed things run to perfection if you give things time to cook. Not really a cook per se but a chance for pH buffer and the breaking down of minerals as well as microbial population as you mentioned.
     
  14. jumpincactus

    jumpincactus Premium Member Supporter

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    indeed...… what slayz me is peeps using great white or any other mycorrhizae inoculant when starting planting in pots, which is actually a waste of time , money and product. The reason I say this is you will get higher germination rates from the spores only if the medium is already p or k deficient. Which most soils are not. the mycos typically germinate to assist the rhizosphere in soils deficient in p and k. Therefore if your using good soil mycos are a waste of time. Not to mention more than one commercial source of mycos have been shown and known to be deficient in propagules and/or fresh enough to even germinate even when the media is deficient.
     
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  15. What's the neem/karanja oil for, other than systemic pesticide? Never used the stuff.
     
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  16. CrimsonEcho

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    Neem oil is pesticide. Neem meal is a good fertilizer. Also the left over organic pesticide from the extraction is still very high in the leftover “meal”, so you have a time released systemic pesticide in your soil. It is neem seed meal, so it is a seed and contains what seeds usually contain, lots of goodness :)
    Never used karanja tho.
     
  17. This thread is taking a life of it's own and there are knowledgeable people participating which is awesome.
     
  18. @jumpincactus I believe you were explaining your soil mix and the development of the microorganisms on another thread. If I'm correct, it was a thread where you showed the soil with the web like formation of beneficial fungi. I recently mixed and cooked a batch. Opened the bag a month later and I noticed some white fuzz. Think I'm on the right path. I believe I'm gonna set up half of my tent in a tub of LOS.
     
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  19. Mycelium. The nutrient super highway. That's magical stuff. That's basically telling you its cooked and ready for planting. Its thriving with life.
     
  20. I'm liking this group. Would like your input on my soil inputs. LMAO. A little LOS humor. Let's talk some compost teas too.
     
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