This Entire Family Of Medical Marijuana Patients Could Go To Prison For Growing Pot

[Oregon Grown]

This family was not following the law, they were over there plant limits by 1/3. If you are going to argue that you are being victimized by state and federal laws that conflict with each other you should at least be in compliance with that state law.

 

[wobbly goblin]

they had 74 plants combined
5 recs for 5 people times 15 plants equals 75
they were growing individually, not as a collective

the feds took photo's off their computer from previous years and are adding those to the charge so they can get them for over 100

bottom line... they were within state limits and the fed is waaaay out of line

rumor has it that the fed action is too scare medical out of the game so everything can be taxed through the rec stores


fwiw

 

[Oregon Grown]

They also had 5lb which is more then allowed so they are not within limits. They stated they grow outdoor and they are over their weight limit half a year after growing it.

 

[wobbly goblin]

24 oz per patient in wa
i'll let you do the math

fwiw

 

[sixstring]

It said they were allowed 28oz per person/patient so with 5 people they were ok on weight right? What should bother us the most was the fed coming back and changing the rules after locals had already settled it.so it does take on a gov discussion when the dea gets involved.and @geologic it makes no dif to me If those agents were dems or repubs its wrong either way ;)

 

[Oregon Grown]

That's 1.5 multiply that by 2 and you get 3. Next you going to say all five of them leave their weed at one place? I doubt someone is driving from Seattle to eastern Washington every time they need to smoke.

 

[squiggly]

@squiggly didn't start this off-topic wingnut kochbro-inspired topic-derailing bullshit--
this is all @logic 's fault for not opening a political forum to ship off the brownshirts to...

True, but I am participating in it.

NP @Capulator -- I've made all the points I originally intended to make and about 25 more, I'll wrap it up :)

 

[Capulator]

Thank you for getting back on track guys.

 

[sixstring]

That's 1.5 multiply that by 2 and you get 3. Next you going to say all five of them leave their weed at one place? I doubt someone is driving from Seattle to eastern Washington every time they need to smoke.

28oz would be 1.75 pounds so x 2 puts it at 3.5, one more person puts you over 5 pounds safely, they had 5 cards all in T he same family I think.plus the old guy has gout and was eating the weed so any smart judge and jury "should" toss the weight thing out.here in michigan if you can prove your using more than the average smoker because you eat it or just smoke alot because of a serious illness the judges always toss the weight issues out.it blows my mind they think it's Ok to use pictures from a crop from a previous year.does that mean they can count all the plants I posted here over the last year as my plant count? @Capulator please remove all my full plant pics lol.
things that make ya go hummm :eek:

 

[Oregon Grown]

That it is but you are only allowed 24 oz. If you grow on a friends property on the other side of your state will it still be at their house 5 or six months later? I know mine wouldn't. Any smart judge or jury that know you use more to eat it then smoke it also know that 74 outdoor plants finish out well above the legal limit. I'm all for growing as much as you want but think it paints the medical growers in a bad light when someone grows over their limits and then argues they are not. They had plants taken by state authorities because they had too many.

 

[sixstring]

ok so 24 oz,whatever it was still 5 patients and only 45 plants after the locals took some.it also said 5 #raw marijuana not dry or processed weed so who knows what they really found? are you suggesting this was a good bust and these guys should continue to follow local police around and re-bust everyone?and in a state where rec weed is now legal?based on the cash and cars siezed it doesnt sound like drug dealers,makes me sick

 

[squiggly]

ok so 24 oz,whatever it was still 5 patients and only 45 plants after the locals took some.it also said 5 #raw marijuana not dry or processed weed so who knows what they really found? are you suggesting this was a good bust and these guys should continue to follow local police around and re-bust everyone?and in a state where rec weed is now legal?based on the cash and cars siezed it doesnt sound like drug dealers,makes me sick

Shit makes me sick too.

However, I would like to see the evidence--as always we can't get the whole picture unless we have, well, the whole picture.

Who's to say one of the kids or parents didn't think they were safe in such a remote location and that they weren't out there selling shit in bulk. For some people the money is just too easy to pass up. Greed will make you do some silly shit.

Barring that possibility I really don't see how arresting these folks helps anyone.

 

[sixstring]

Shit makes me sick too.

Barring that possibility I really don't see how arresting these folks helps anyone.

not when they keep talking about letting thousands of convicted drug related people out,why would they even continue this crap?

i just heard a stat today that we have 20 million people working in the gov,all i can say is wow.

 

[Oregon Grown]

Honestly I don't think anyone should be busted for it but that doesn't change the fact that it is illegal. If you choose to grow plant counts that make you a target for the Feds you are either very stupid or you are in it for $ and thought the risk was worth it. I understand why anyone busted would claim its medical but when others go on about how these people are being screwed it makes the whole thing look like the joke and cover for illegal drug sales many people believe it is.

 

[wobbly goblin]

not sure why you are so hell bent on making these folks out as deserving of being popped oregon grown but you are out of line and your perpetual posting regarding your position on the matter is telling in itself


fwiw

 

[Oregon Grown]

Believe what you like.

 

[squiggly]

not when they keep talking about letting thousands of convicted drug related people out,why would they even continue this crap?

i just heard a stat today that we have 20 million people working in the gov,all i can say is wow.

You must not have read the requirements for those conditional releases:

(1) inmates who are currently serving a federal sentence in prison and, by operation of law, likely would have received a substantially lower sentence if convicted of the same offense today
(2) are non-violent, low-level offenders without significant ties to large-scale criminal organizations, gangs, or cartels
(3) have served at least 10 years of their sentence
(4) do not have a significant criminal history
(5) have demonstrated good conduct in prison
(6) have no history of violence prior to or during their current term of imprisonment.

 

[squiggly]

not sure why you are so hell bent on making these folks out as deserving of being popped oregon grown but you are out of line and your perpetual posting regarding your position on the matter is telling in itself


fwiw

I wouldn't say sharing his opinion is "out of line".

He's correct to say that medical status has been used as a front for money making operations many, MANY, times. Like I said, I wanna see the evidence they have on these guys before I go bashing the feds for this.

I don't think this shit should be illegal, but it is. If it turns out one or all of these guys were selling the product, then they brought this on themselves.

I gotta say, 5 pounds raw and 74 plants doesn't sound even halfway reasonable to meet the needs of 5 patients--but maybe that's just me. Seems fishy, but if they're legit then I'll happily jump on the fuck the feds train.

 

[kolah]

no victim no crime.

and zero evidence that any of it was sold.

 

[squiggly]

no victim no crime.

and zero evidence that any of it was sold.

1. I agree.

2. We won't know that until there is a trial. You don't know that, you're just saying it. If you're right, then I'm 100% on board with you and all the other fed bashers in this thread. If you're wrong, and the prosecutor's office has simply not shared that information yet--then, well, you're wrong. We don't hear every last thing about a case right off the bat, that's not how this works.