Have you seen twins in a strain before?

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JAWS

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these will most likely be twins.

Lime kush fem twins 1
Lime kush fem twins 2

came from some fem seeds i made a while back.




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digdugdank

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Ive got some for days. Lol
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These are just a few. Ive got probably 25 -30 of them. Regular beans they are white Lightning f2's, Digdug!!
 
zeke

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Either we are witnessing the future of cannabis' evolution or it's history. If it is indeed an atavistic trait and primitive cannabis once had multiple seedlings residing in one fruit then one would think that some other members of the cannabaceae family would exhibit this style of seed as well.
 
zeke

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I dunno, I just like using the word I suppose. Makes me appear to be intelligent. You fucker, you called me out. I'm fawkin borderline returded.

Make me actually articulate my thoughts you good for nothing so and so.... Usually get by spewing whatever nonsense pops into my melon. Actually I was thinking sort of along the lines of its a result of inbreeding or more specifically the combining of recessive genes. Recessive genes that are from distant and or ancient ancestors.
How so you say, by jizzle? Well it would seem to me that the trait of having multiple embryos within one fruit(achene) would come from a period of time when this particular trait would be beneficial. A time when degenerates like ourselves were not taking such an active role in perpetuating the cannabis species.

Or my hunch is incorrect and it's a new adaptation. Possibly resulting from our rather recent intensive selective pressure for massive stacked inflorescences. Either way I'm not seeing this as something that is bad.
 
BushyOldGrower

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It's not a mutation...it's a twin!

This isn't new or something found just recently you know. This topic has been discussed before on cannabis sites and I have discussed this for a long time.

People do find it interesting and it can sometimes even be seen happening just by two seeds forming two hooked together like a double seed with a crease down the middle.

I think it may just be a seed growth aberration. Sometimes you can't tell that two grew together into one. I think that's why there is no relationship on whether they are m/f or the same.

They do pop up occasionally in many of my strains and selective inbreeding is one of the skills a breeder uses of course. Unless selected for this trait I doubt inbreeding causes it but anything is possible. ;)
 
BushyOldGrower

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DigDugs And Jaws seeds are clearly conjoined seeds that grew together into a double seed. Normally we sort seeds like those out because they look abnormal. They are always two.

Often you can even break those double seeds in half and have two viable seeds.
 
digdugdank

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I agree with bushy, they are clearly two separate seed casings that have fused together. Thats why I have a bunch, cause we were separating a huge seed run and we picked these out. I have some doubles that dont quite look like they were fused together, they look like one big seed. But in fact they are two separate seedlings in two fused together shell casings, looking like one seed. Eventually I will start these for fun, just not at this moment. Digdug!!
 
zeke

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Obviously it's just a portion of the seed that is being affected here. No one is claiming a complete population, just a few in the occasional batch usually in individuals of a related stock. An interesting experiment would be to take unrelated individuals exhibiting the trait and progeny test. See if the frequency can't be increased.
@ BOG: I'm a fan and know that you are indeed a bushy old grower. However, the time scale I'm referring to is beyond the reach of recent memory.

I'm wondering if any of the early 19th century cannabis researchers have made note of these type of seemingly abhorrent achenes. If not then it may indeed be a relatively new innovation. The current level of selective pressure for massive inflorescences that drug strain cannabis is experiencing is unprecedented.
Unless of course it was even danker when it was dropped off on this planet by the Anunaki or good ol intergalactic overlord Xenu. Ramtha maybe?
 
zombie III

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I dunno, I just like using the word I suppose. Makes me appear to be intelligent. You fucker, you called me out. I'm fawkin borderline returded.

Make me actually articulate my thoughts you good for nothing so and so.... Usually get by spewing whatever nonsense pops into my melon. Actually I was thinking sort of along the lines of its a result of inbreeding or more specifically the combining of recessive genes. Recessive genes that are from distant and or ancient ancestors.
How so you say, by jizzle? Well it would seem to me that the trait of having multiple embryos within one fruit(achene) would come from a period of time when this particular trait would be beneficial. A time when degenerates like ourselves were not taking such an active role in perpetuating the cannabis species.

Or my hunch is incorrect and it's a new adaptation. Possibly resulting from our rather recent intensive selective pressure for massive stacked inflorescences. Either way I'm not seeing this as something that is bad.

rofl!!! best post i've read today. got me laughing hard lol :P
 
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