The Terpinator Saga

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jumpincactus said:
If you are using bottled mycho's as opposed to local native already established in your soil, the chances of your getting a good microherd is slim. So your concern over Terpinator is unfounded.

There are a ton of studies if you look, that show many commercial supplied mycho's don't have a very good success rate concerning actual germination and establishing a viable network of mycorrhizal fungus. I know I will get flamed to hell n back :fire:with that statement but I will close with this. Please keep your rebuttals to yourself until such time you do the same research and hunting to put my questions to rest about all the snake oils in the Ag industry. If you can find conclusive evidence that shows my claim is incorrect I will eat crow. :p

Mhhhhh not really feeling much like crow today so I believe I should be safe for now........ :)
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No contest.
 
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Has anyone experienced a k toxicity using this product? I picked up a few lbs of potassium sulfate to reverse engineer terpinator by its labeled percentage (4%) but have yet to use it because I'd be adding between 88 and 263 ppm K (@10 and 30ml/gal respectively) and I'm already running K @200ppm and S @ 100ppm using the jacks hydro formula.
IMHO the terpene production comes from the sulfur, I have the ppms calculated for S in my notes somewhere, I'll dig it up.
 
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saltwater said:
I've tried to contact them in the past as well with no response. But their product always gives me the best runs when I use it. So I shall continue
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resonance is much under rated bro :-) if it didnt work for some people, either placebo or genuine, then people would stop using it. We could switch you to something i use, it might not work for you, life is funny like that.
 
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Savage Henry said:
Has anyone experienced a k toxicity using this product? I picked up a few lbs of potassium sulfate to reverse engineer terpinator by its labeled percentage (4%) but have yet to use it because I'd be adding between 88 and 263 ppm K (@10 and 30ml/gal respectively) and I'm already running K @200ppm and S @ 100ppm using the jacks hydro formula.
IMHO the terpene production comes from the sulfur, I have the ppms calculated for S in my notes somewhere, I'll dig it up.
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No toxicity, i dont use it but it might be hard as it should be organic right?.....yes on S for terps, or via a modulation of Mycos, or bacteria like Streptomyces Henry, why i use it in part, among other actino's :), see here https://news.brown.edu/articles/2014/12/terpenes
You may find SSB's such as Thiobacillus Thiooxidans are primary suppliers of the related sequencing required for Terp production
 
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Thanks for the article, @Ecompost havent seen you for a while. Heady stuff, now to figure how to culture said bacteria.

Found my notes, the numbers I posted above were off a bit:
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I just bought potassium sulfate powder online, its literally 0-0-50, 5 bucks for a pound, and only takes like 1/8th of a teaspoon per gallon.... and its still organic.
 
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scubascrog said:
I just bought potassium sulfate powder online, its literally 0-0-50, 5 bucks for a pound, and only takes like 1/8th of a teaspoon per gallon.... and its still organic.
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I don't think the type I got is omri, mind if I ask what brand you went with?
 
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I'm pretty sure as long as its the 0-0-50 with sulfur its organic.
 
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Savage Henry said:
Thanks for the article, @Ecompost havent seen you for a while. Heady stuff, now to figure how to culture said bacteria.

Found my notes, the numbers I posted above were off a bit:
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I like how invested you are Henry. Work has been handing me a whopping, its a short summer season here so all hands to the pumps :-) I hope you are well
 
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All is well here, @Ecompost , just working. Glad to hear you're chugging along.

That makes sense, @scubascrog , I got the sop52 and that shits definitely not organic. Guess I should have done a bit more research :)
 
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Savage Henry said:
All is well here, @Ecompost , just working. Glad to hear you're chugging along.

That makes sense, @scubascrog , I got the sop52 and that shits definitely not organic. Guess I should have done a bit more research :)
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always the way mate, even citric acid can catch you out, you'd think I would be safe with that right...LOL if only it was that easy. Citric acid could easily be Organic, but 9 times out of 10 its not when sold in bottles
 
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Savage Henry said:
glad I got some usda organic citric acid from the grocery store then! I thought I was just being frugal...
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there is a cheap way sold in posh wrappers, and a USDA way buddy, you made a wise choice. I am not a fan of the lab grown acids, I am not even sure these dont just trash all that hard work trimming your terps since our plants already engage in the production of citric acid as part of the ET and OR systems. High Citric acid would be no beuno imo and high synth derived would be no bueno even at a lower rate since i am entirely convinced this would impact ATP by tipping the balance of the natural citric acid cycle (Krebs)
 
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Has anyone worked with natural sulphur spring water? Either straight or diluted with fresh water?
 
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