Council Of First Knowledge, Jedi Temple Training Facility

[Midwestjay]

@EventHorizan yeah I think I would def scrog her out and fill the space......
if I were you I would keep everything where it is.....and scrog the shit out of the Photo...hella flat...dont let anything bend up towards the light...and when it does...get it back down flat......when things get to crazy you can take tops and practice cloning........about 2 weeks before the autos are done...flip down to 12/12.....the autos will finish hard and you will have a GIANT canopy
those plants look beautiful....they are starting to feed on your energy
and I really appreciate the compliment....
@Midwestjay I would only really use 6 bulbs...which would be plenty
how many plants....well depends on the size of the pot....I would say if you are running half gal squares....
and thats 4 squares to a sqft......then 64 plants......but anything under that would be fine...for vegging
1/4 that if you wanted to run say 1 1/2 gal per sqft and bush each out say double top them before flower

Man that has me wanting to sog and perpetual. That is a goal of mine to try out for a year or so. But i gotta get my clone game on point.

 

[Wisher619]

I did hear that too..

so yes and no

if the plant is a true herm..then no
a true herm is when at sexing...the plant will exhibit both male and female traits
people are wrong to assume that if a flower throws a nanner that it is a herm or has herm traits
you see.....in the wild...where ever certain cultivars originated from.......some genetic traits are built in for adaption such as complete darkness...if lineage is of equatorial.....alot of them are grown in the brush and jungle...where they actually only get say 8-12 hours of sun a day...from sprout to harvest.....those would be more prone to hormone imbalance when exposed to light leaks...or certain levels of nutrients of one element or the other...because it creates a hormone imbalance
true herm genetics such as say Thai or certain mexican strains.....now those are true herms.......those you don't want to breed with because the genetic makeup has dual sex information written into the genetic code that is turned on and expressed by default not by an imbalance in hormone due to grower error with said strain
that is why the industry has had great success with fem seeds...because they are for the most part "stable"
but lets not forget.....all cannabis...whether hemp or drug type...has dual sex written into the genetic code......but for the vast majority...of the drug type....that code is dormant unless trigger by hormone imbalance
creating fem seeds is exactly that....spraying a fem with CS to create a hormone imbalance in order to trigger that genetic code which in turn displays male traits....the strange thing is the pollen will carry both genetic makeup from father and mother....that is why the fem rate is not 100%
sorry I am rambling

 

[Midwestjay]

Wisher they are praying again... Jesus has returned... Some ppl spend and eternity trying to make you believe them and others it just comes naturally.... You my brother, are 2 for 2, mind you from about 2000 miles away at that :)

You should be proud of these homie. You wouldn't believe how many droopy ass sad plants i see on here. If you keep them autos perky like that you'll max em out.

 

[Midwestjay]

so yes and no

if the plant is a true herm..then no
a true herm is when at sexing...the plant will exhibit both male and female traits
people are wrong to assume that if a flower throws a nanner that it is a herm or has herm traits
you see.....in the wild...where ever certain cultivars originated from.......some genetic traits are built in for adaption such as complete darkness...if lineage is of equatorial.....alot of them are grown in the brush and jungle...where they actually only get say 8-12 hours of sun a day...from sprout to harvest.....those would be more prone to hormone imbalance when exposed to light leaks...or certain levels of nutrients of one element or the other...because it creates a hormone imbalance
true herm genetics such as say Thai or certain mexican strains.....now those are true herms.......those you don't want to bread with because the genetic makeup has dual sex information written into the genetic code that is turned on and expressed by default not by an imbalance in hormone du to grower error with said strain
that is why the industry has had great success with fem seeds...because they are for the most part "stable"
but lets not forget.....all cannabis...whether hemp or drug type...has dual sex written into the genetic code......but for the vast majority...of the drug type....that code is dormant unless trigger by hormone imbalance
creating fem seeds is exactly that....spraying a fem with CS to create a hormone imbalance in order to trigger that genetic code which in turn displays fame traits....the strange thing is the pollen will carry both genetic makeup from father and mother....that is why the fem rate is not 100%
sorry I am rambling

Holy mf shit... You're a fkn weed info rolodex. I bow to the bud master

 

[EventHorizan]

so yes and no

if the plant is a true herm..then no
a true herm is when at sexing...the plant will exhibit both male and female traits
people are wrong to assume that if a flower throws a nanner that it is a herm or has herm traits
you see.....in the wild...where ever certain cultivars originated from.......some genetic traits are built in for adaption such as complete darkness...if lineage is of equatorial.....alot of them are grown in the brush and jungle...where they actually only get say 8-12 hours of sun a day...from sprout to harvest.....those would be more prone to hormone imbalance when exposed to light leaks...or certain levels of nutrients of one element or the other...because it creates a hormone imbalance
true herm genetics such as say Thai or certain mexican strains.....now those are true herms.......those you don't want to breed with because the genetic makeup has dual sex information written into the genetic code that is turned on and expressed by default not by an imbalance in hormone due to grower error with said strain
that is why the industry has had great success with fem seeds...because they are for the most part "stable"
but lets not forget.....all cannabis...whether hemp or drug type...has dual sex written into the genetic code......but for the vast majority...of the drug type....that code is dormant unless trigger by hormone imbalance
creating fem seeds is exactly that....spraying a fem with CS to create a hormone imbalance in order to trigger that genetic code which in turn displays male traits....the strange thing is the pollen will carry both genetic makeup from father and mother....that is why the fem rate is not 100%
sorry I am rambling

No I love reading that kind of shit! That is interesting to me! You can ramble all day!

 

[Wisher619]

hahahaha you guys are crazy
but...when i read over some of my posts I do startle myself sometimes at knowledge I have accumulated over the years...I fuckin read everything I can get my hands on...I take notes on anything that sparks my interest
since cannabis has been in my life since about 13-14.......i just have been accumulating info and applying it as I go....
sometimes my brain will get fixated one something...like genetics and i will just study and research the shit out it of every waking free moment not dedicated to my fam.....man I would be in the kitchen theorizing on certain hypothesis of whatever it is I am thinking about
not even paying attention to my job because it is so programed into my life that i can do my work like a robot....without even being conscious.....
they say I have ADHD...I say I have a deep thinking problem...

 

[EventHorizan]

@EventHorizan yeah I think I would def scrog her out and fill the space......
if I were you I would keep everything where it is.....and scrog the shit out of the Photo...hella flat...dont let anything bend up towards the light...and when it does...get it back down flat......when things get to crazy you can take tops and practice cloning........about 2 weeks before the autos are done...flip down to 12/12.....the autos will finish hard and you will have a GIANT canopy
those plants look beautiful....they are starting to feed on your energy
and I really appreciate the compliment....
@Midwestjay I would only really use 6 bulbs...which would be plenty
how many plants....well depends on the size of the pot....I would say if you are running half gal squares....
and thats 4 squares to a sqft......then 64 plants......but anything under that would be fine...for vegging
1/4 that if you wanted to run say 1 1/2 gal per sqft and bush each out say double top them before flower

You should be proud of these homie. You wouldn't believe how many droopy ass sad plants i see on here. If you keep them autos perky like that you'll max em out.

Thanks! I won't lie... They do look pretty good. Wish has taught me a few things already. At least I know what N toxicity looks like now! That one I trained is gonna be a bush. But that other one is starting to catch up! Even the runt is pulling thru. I just got his res changed out to the new formula, so we will see what it looks like in 48hrs. 48 hrs tells you a lot about the changes you make and I like that.

 

[EventHorizan]

hahahaha you guys are crazy
but...when i read over some of my posts I do startle myself sometimes at knowledge I have accumulated over the years...I fuckin read everything I can get my hands on...I take notes on anything that sparks my interest
since cannabis has been in my life since about 13-14.......i just have been accumulating info and applying it as I go....
sometimes my brain will get fixated one something...like genetics and i will just study and research the shit out it of every waking free moment not dedicated to my fam.....man I would be in the kitchen theorizing on certain hypothesis of whatever it is I am thinking about
not even paying attention to my job because it is so programed into my life that i can do my work like a robot....without even being conscious.....
they say I have ADHD...I say I have a deep thinking problem...

Me too! I go all in when I want to accomplish something. So I have no doubt I will be a very good grower in time. I am learning a lot right now, and already have.

 

[EventHorizan]

Holy mf shit... You're a fkn weed info rolodex. I bow to the bud master

I couldn't of said it better!

 

[Midwestjay]

hahahaha you guys are crazy
but...when i read over some of my posts I do startle myself sometimes at knowledge I have accumulated over the years...I fuckin read everything I can get my hands on...I take notes on anything that sparks my interest
since cannabis has been in my life since about 13-14.......i just have been accumulating info and applying it as I go....
sometimes my brain will get fixated one something...like genetics and i will just study and research the shit out it of every waking free moment not dedicated to my fam.....man I would be in the kitchen theorizing on certain hypothesis of whatever it is I am thinking about
not even paying attention to my job because it is so programed into my life that i can do my work like a robot....without even being conscious.....
they say I have ADHD...I say I have a deep thinking problem...

It shows that the you are dedicated.

I wish I paid that much attention from the start. My first 3.5-4 years I kinda got cocky like I know what I'm doing, I don't need to know any more type shit. Plus I wasn't on the forum and didn't have anybody that I knew growing, so nothing to really compare to. But this last year has blown by and I've taken in so much info. And the more learn the more I realize I don't know.

Wish gives me, not competition but like something to aim for. I can't wait to get into this house and see what kinda trouble you're gonna get me into. Cause I'm gonna take a lot of you're suggestions on set up and technique on the next room/s

 

[EventHorizan]

@EventHorizan yeah I think I would def scrog her out and fill the space......
if I were you I would keep everything where it is.....and scrog the shit out of the Photo...hella flat...dont let anything bend up towards the light...and when it does...get it back down flat......when things get to crazy you can take tops and practice cloning........about 2 weeks before the autos are done...flip down to 12/12.....the autos will finish hard and you will have a GIANT canopy
those plants look beautiful....they are starting to feed on your energy
and I really appreciate the compliment....
@Midwestjay I would only really use 6 bulbs...which would be plenty
how many plants....well depends on the size of the pot....I would say if you are running half gal squares....
and thats 4 squares to a sqft......then 64 plants......but anything under that would be fine...for vegging
1/4 that if you wanted to run say 1 1/2 gal per sqft and bush each out say double top them before flower

When should I put the scrog net in the tent? and start bending down? Should I do it in like 2 weeks and scrog the autos too? or when? You give me the directions boss and I will make it happen!

 

[Midwestjay]

I would just put it over the photos, and let the auto just to be safe. It's hard to know when to put them on a scrog and if you keep weaving like you should be , imo feels like you're to deep into flower to be so rough.

But then again I didn't have wish helping me. It was my second attempt. Burg times I put it on to early. It did help to keep the tops pretty even and spread out.

 

[Wisher619]

When should I put the scrog net in the tent? and start bending down? Should I do it in like 2 weeks and scrog the autos too? or when? You give me the directions boss and I will make it happen!

you can start right now by bending the main stalk over and tying it down and bending and separating out the branches and tying them down ...you don't need the net just yet...just get the plant to start heading in that general direction....she will get the hint and once you are really ready to run the net...she will know what is up and work with you.......you are gonna be training her and her subatomic nucleus has a memory.....well lets call it muscle memory ....but the more you train her...the more susceptible she is to training
once you are ready for the net...you simply gently lower it over her and weave here in.......

 

[Midwestjay]

you can start right now by bending the main stalk over and tying it down and bending and separating out the branches and tying them down ...you don't need the net just yet...just get the plant to start heading in that general direction....she will get the hint and once you are really ready to run the net...she will know what is up and work with you.......you are gonna be training her and her subatomic nucleus has a memory.....well lets call it muscle memory ....but the more you train her...the more susceptible she is to training
once you are ready for the net...you simply gently lower it over her and weave here in.......

The auto too?

 

[Wisher619]

oh yeah no auto scrogging when you drop the net....just allow the auto branches to just go through the holes...no need to do anything with them....you can use the net over them to just help hold up the flowers incase they get heavy and decide to fall over

 

[Wisher619]

you know like a standard trellis net.....just drop it over and push each auto branch through a hole......hell they might not even be big enough to reach the net...........

 

[EventHorizan]

you can start right now by bending the main stalk over and tying it down and bending and separating out the branches and tying them down ...you don't need the net just yet...just get the plant to start heading in that general direction....she will get the hint and once you are really ready to run the net...she will know what is up and work with you.......you are gonna be training her and her subatomic nucleus has a memory.....well lets call it muscle memory ....but the more you train her...the more susceptible she is to training
once you are ready for the net...you simply gently lower it over her and weave here in.......

How is that for jerking her head out the way, and spreading her legs???

 

[Midwestjay]

Here's a timeline of my shitty auto scrog. I know I skipped some at the end. And a lil root porn. Oh and I put it under the hps too soon. I didn't realize how much more blue the hortilux eye had over these cheap hps. I used to go start to finish with autos and an eye, never had this much stretch.

 

[Wisher619]

Here's a timeline of my shitty auto scrog. I know I skipped some at the end. And a lil root porn. Oh and I put it under the hps too soon. I didn't realize how much more blue the hortilux eye had over these cheap hps. I used to go start to finish with autos and an eye, never had this much stretch. View attachment 623494View attachment 623495View attachment 623496View attachment 623497View attachment 623498View attachment 623499View attachment 623500View attachment 623501View attachment 623502View attachment 623503

love it bro

 

[EventHorizan]

Here's a timeline of my shitty auto scrog. I know I skipped some at the end. And a lil root porn. Oh and I put it under the hps too soon. I didn't realize how much more blue the hortilux eye had over these cheap hps. I used to go start to finish with autos and an eye, never had this much stretch. View attachment 623494View attachment 623495View attachment 623496View attachment 623497View attachment 623498View attachment 623499View attachment 623500View attachment 623501View attachment 623502View attachment 623503

Awesome! That looks so sweet. hella nice and showing that small spaces dont stop nobody! I can't wait to do that. Where did you get the yoyo's at?