My "i Really Hope This Shit Works" Run

[ShyGuy]

If you read/take a look at my first forum post: https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/starting-from-scratch-again.85977/

You'll see that I,

Had Broadmites
Killed everything I had
Went Crazy cleaning the house
Had to get plants from some local farmers I know and trust have a clean garden
Did my best to bring those plants back to health before flipping into flower


Noooooooooooooooooow its a couple weeks later and I think the rooms just about as good as its gonna get before flower and some of the plants were so big if i let them go any longer they would stretch into the light

As a lot of you probably already know one of the only ways to really know for sure if you have broadmites is to witness the havoc they wreak on your plants in flower... I am however hoping that this time the bugs are completely gone! I havent been able to crop out since July 2016 so I'm pretty depressed at this point when it comes to the garden. I only have the one room filled right now but as you can see in the pictures i have some seeds rocking in case the bugs are gone so that will fill another room hopefully around week 3/4 of flower.

 

[justiceman]

I'll pull up a chair for this one.

Damn those broad mites man! Sending positive vibes to your garden to increase protection. I have not encountered them yet fortunately but I have gotten spider mites that devastated a whole grow ALL BECAUSE I accepted a clone from a friend to mother out(wow that was dumb lmao) so I know the pain!

Looking good though. What kind of coco mix you running there?

 

[ShyGuy]

I'll pull up a chair for this one.

Damn those broad mites man! Sending positive vibes to your garden to increase protection. I have not encountered them yet fortunately but I have gotten spider mites that devastated a whole grow ALL BECAUSE I accepted a clone from a friend to mother out(wow that was dumb lmao) so I know the pain!

Looking good though. What kind of coco mix you running there?

I know right?!?!!?!? literally the worst thing I have ever encountered absolute monsters hahaha
yeah............ I won't be accepting clones from anyone anymore unless i can set up an awesome quarantine zone and forbid the living balls out of them. If this grow doesn't work I'm boned I'm literally going to have to move I cant keep tanking money like this spend all this cash on electricty and can't even grow my own meds because they wont flower....

anyways moving on from my sob story everything right now is in Cyco "coco pearl" which comes with 20% small perlite mixed in
I used to run H and G coco but this is the same price actually a buck cheaper at my local grow store and comes with perlite mixed in already lol so gonna try it for a run or two maybe eventually do a side by side or add more perlite to aerate or something but seems to be working ok right now
Last night was the first day of flower so in a week or two ill know if the bugs are back lol

Appreciate the kind words and protection spell bro! also i dig your avatar is that fullmetal alchemist or naruto?

 

[justiceman]

hahaha good eye! It's actually from Bleach. I love coco coir and it's always good to see another who uses it.

 

[HydroGuy]

Best of luck bud i wouldn't wish the broadmite on my worst enemy they are nasty little creatures. I know a guy that literally quit growing because of those little bastards. This run will be great just gotta believe!

 

[ShyGuy]

Appreciate all the good vibes guys and I know the ladies do too! will post updated pictures later today or tomorrow morning

and hydroguy when doing research on the mites i found quite a few people that completely quit growing which made me very sad.....if this doesn't work like I said gonna have to move but thats not gonna happen!

 

[ShyGuy]

So Day 2 was yesterday and everything seems to be doing ok so far
some of the plants are still really tiny because i basically just took whatever i could get to fill the room but hopefully i still get at least a pack a light
seedlings are going apeshit for some reason the ones on the left that are just 6 by themselves rather than 24 in a tray are like 4-5 days behind and were germinated on the same day fed the same etc idk maybe plants like being in groups like people

anyways here are some updated pictures they just got blasted with their first bloom feed last night and this morning so ill take some more pictures here soon when they take the ferk off

 

[ShroomKing]

So Day 2 was yesterday and everything seems to be doing ok so far
some of the plants are still really tiny because i basically just took whatever i could get to fill the room but hopefully i still get at least a pack a light
seedlings are going apeshit for some reason the ones on the left that are just 6 by themselves rather than 24 in a tray are like 4-5 days behind and were germinated on the same day fed the same etc idk maybe plants like being in groups like people

anyways here are some updated pictures they just got blasted with their first bloom feed last night and this morning so ill take some more pictures here soon when they take the ferk off

Looks good.
With Heavy16 in coco I have a few tips.

Go very easy on the Fire until in bloom, it's just more than is usually needed in veg.

And I pour 5 gallons of water, but only add 4 gallons worth of Heavy16 nutes. And I feed, feed , feed. Never plain water. Once a week I do a inoculation flush like Heavy16 recommends with OGBIOWAR. Check out heavy16s Instagram for more tips.

Peace

 

[ShyGuy]

Looks good.
With Heavy16 in coco I have a few tips.

Go very easy on the Fire until in bloom, it's just more than is usually needed in veg.

And I pour 5 gallons of water, but only add 4 gallons worth of Heavy16 nutes. And I feed, feed , feed. Never plain water. Once a week I do a inoculation flush like Heavy16 recommends with OGBIOWAR. Check out heavy16s Instagram for more tips.

Peace

Yeah i noticed even just with a and b, cal mag, protekt, and great white the Ec was over 2 which at first freaked me out but heavy is organic and blah blah blah still though for my 50 gal res i underfed everything seems to be looking good but honestly I haven't had successful flowering in over 6 months soooo........ can't really tell if my plants are looking the way they should only way i can really tell is when the pistils die but tuesday is the end of week one so they havent really come out much yet
ill take more pictures tonight gonna clean up the bottoms take clones and pray to the cannabis gods my plants are clean

also, shroom king with the once a week flush are you doing more so for plant heartiness and pest resistances or to clean the medium so the plant is ready for the next week of nutes? i used to flush once a week with phd water in coco just cause thats how i learned


currently my mix is as follows:
for a 50 gal res:
Heavy 16 Bloom A/B: Recommends 8-10 mls/g early bloom im feeding about 6/7
Heavy 16 Fire/roots/prime: recommends 1-2 ml/g depending on additive i do a little less than 1ml per g
Great white shark powder: 3 fat ass scoops
Protekt: (first thing i add to the water) about 3ml/g
cal mag: 2-3/gal gonna wean it off as i approach week 3 unless someone says i should keep feeding it this

 

[ShroomKing]

Add your Protekt and your cal mag, then pH your reservoir, then add the Heavy16 nutes.
This will give you a more stable pH.

Best of luck.
Peace

 

[ShyGuy]

Add your Protekt and your cal mag, then pH your reservoir, then add the Heavy16 nutes.
This will give you a more stable pH.

Best of luck.
Peace

I always add protekt and cal mag first but youre saying after my additives ph to 6 and then add heavy 16? and leave it even if afterwards its not 6 anymore?

 

[iKharon]

hahaha good eye! It's actually from Bleach. I love coco coir and it's always good to see another who uses it.

Lol.. makes me wanna start an anime thread. Blood +, Deathnote, Psychopass... all cool shit.

 

[FooDoo]

Your hardwork will pay off. Props for having what it takes to toss the whole grow and start from scratch with everything clean and new.

 

[justiceman]

Lol.. makes me wanna start an anime thread. Blood +, Deathnote, Psychopass... all cool shit.

Don't even get me started! Hahahaha

 

[ShroomKing]

I always add protekt and cal mag first but youre saying after my additives ph to 6 and then add heavy 16? and leave it even if afterwards its not 6 anymore?

It's should consistently be in the proper range when first mixed this way.

 

[ShyGuy]

Any body know what the fuck this is ? have a bunch of plants i had to pull leaves off doing this is it a ph problem from phing after adding heavy?

 

[justiceman]

That looks like nutrient burn to me brother. Ease up on the the EC strength. What's your EC right now? I'd probably be shooting somewhere in the ballpark of 1.4-1.6EC for coco during flower. Some might say go higher but your mileage may vary. Some feed high with tons of run off and some feed low with barely any run off. Also if you let them dry out too much, and too often then EC strength rises FAST in coco.

I'd probably give them a weak nutrient solution to run out the extra salt they don't need.

 

[ShyGuy]

That looks like nutrient burn to me brother. Ease up on the the EC strength. What's your EC right now? I'd probably be shooting somewhere in the ballpark of 1.4-1.6EC for coco during flower. Some might say go higher but your mileage may vary. Some feed high with tons of run off and some feed low with barely any run off. Also if you let them dry out too much, and too often then EC strength rises FAST in coco.

I'd probably give them a weak nutrient solution to run out the extra salt they don't need.

shit i figured it was something like that well at least it isnt broadmites! but my flowering isnt off to a great start lol -____-
should i flush with phd water or just back off on nutes?

 

[justiceman]

No worries man as long as you take action the girls should be fine. Always use weak nutrient solution with coco to flush it, that way you maintain the cal/mag balance and pH in the medium. Plain pH'd water throws it out of wack.

I would do both. The current nutrient strength is too high so it needs to be taken down a notch, and if you want to stop the burning as fast as possible then flushing will probably be your best bet in my opinion, but I don't know how how many leaves are affected. If it's only a few you might not need to flush and can just get away with lightening up on the nutrient. If it's a lot or you want peace of mind then I'd say definitely flush.

If you want to flush:
Mix up a 0.4-0.6EC pH 5.8 nutrient solution and get AMPLE run off from the girls, and then after flushing I'd probably run a 1.2EC pH 5.8 feed and see what happens from there. Feel free to wait up and check what some of the other guys think if you want some more opinions but that's my 2 cents.

 

[ShroomKing]

Putting up a picture of one leaf isn't enough info to diagnose a problem.

You usually don't see deficiency or burn like that using H16 correctly.
You need to check out the Heavy 16 users thread, it might help.
It has quirks, but is excellent when used a bit weaker than recommended.

If I had to guess, you switched to bloom too quickly. It might be P burn. I wait at least 2 weeks after flip before I switch to bloom base. Plants like the N , and the fire has enough phosphorus to carry those few weeks.

Flush with a 1/4 strength batch of nutes if in any doubt.

Best of luck.
Peace