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Man, tough crowd, lol

Will be brief, which for me means regular length post for most, heh.

Context:
1st grow
Soil
6 plants (currently, may pick up or clone up to 9 others in the next few) but due to requesting certain strains when I got them from the cloner, they range from being cloned 8/20 to 10/10... been nuting and extra lighting the younger ones as hard as I could press them (and FIM'ing and topping the olders) to try to get the sort of caught up and more or less remotely close to the same height and mass overall. Still will be a reach. Plants are roughly 21" on average right now +/- a few inches. 3 Frankenstein, 1 Blue Dream CBD, 1 Orange Purple CBD, 1 Candida.

7'x8'x7'(tall) area plus a couple odd spots with room enough for a plant each, in a 8'x11' dedicated room... just finishing up putting foil-faced foam board on the walls, ceiling, floor.
I also have a 5'x5x80" grow tent I can set up adjacent to the room with secondary heat, etc.

Room has controlled heat for night time, getting a bit of surplus CO2 as the furnace is in the room not far from the door where I'm drawing in air, and I maintain a 28 gal aerated water reservoir, PH to 6.5, to ensure the temps when watering and feeding are good. Botainicare nutes.

Also, need to get pretty good yield (given it's only my first grow) and my medical needs are very high (extreme pain, neurologic condition, migraine, PTSD) and I need to sock away some extra in case I don't get the next grow started for 2-3 months after we move.

...............
Lights (drum roll, here's the main question of the day...) Have been running some old T8s I had lying around and plus 3 LED flouro replacements, plus an 8' commercial white LED that weighs like 45 pounds and looks to be roughly 4000k... They have been supplemented with a few different low-end LEDs I've been testing. Just not impressed with these low end lights (spectrum, output per $/value, hot spotting and coverage overall) and want to upgrade. Crux is the budget: We may have to sell the place and move in about 6 months to a year, so I want to keep the lighting under $700 for now till I see what they next location offers for grow space. Question is: if I only have about $700 for lighting, need to at least cover that 7'x8' room area (and if possible, would be great to have something for the 5'x5' tent to at least run veg in there - unless the flouro and LED flouro replacements are enough(?), what's my best option to buy this week? MH/HPS combo? Lower end CMH? Something else?

Also, bonus round - see my CFO for the $5, she's reallllyyy good about letting me spread cash around, honest, lol - If I need to get a carbon setup and fan for that and/or the lights (can the scrubber and lights share a fan?), what setups should I look at on Amazon?

(Note: was looking at the earlier recs from Events on MH/HPS and filter but wasn't sure it that person's setup, which I had trouble finding) was a close match to mine or not...)

Thanks!!!
In a soil grow... more nutes is not always faster growing..some will skip nutes in veg and then hammer them when they get to flower... the soil is generally less hot
 
Man, tough crowd, lol

Will be brief, which for me means regular length post for most, heh.

Context:
1st grow
Soil
6 plants (currently, may pick up or clone up to 9 others in the next few) but due to requesting certain strains when I got them from the cloner, they range from being cloned 8/20 to 10/10... been nuting and extra lighting the younger ones as hard as I could press them (and FIM'ing and topping the olders) to try to get the sort of caught up and more or less remotely close to the same height and mass overall. Still will be a reach. Plants are roughly 21" on average right now +/- a few inches. 3 Frankenstein, 1 Blue Dream CBD, 1 Orange Purple CBD, 1 Candida.

7'x8'x7'(tall) area plus a couple odd spots with room enough for a plant each, in a 8'x11' dedicated room... just finishing up putting foil-faced foam board on the walls, ceiling, floor.
I also have a 5'x5x80" grow tent I can set up adjacent to the room with secondary heat, etc.

Room has controlled heat for night time, getting a bit of surplus CO2 as the furnace is in the room not far from the door where I'm drawing in air, and I maintain a 28 gal aerated water reservoir, PH to 6.5, to ensure the temps when watering and feeding are good. Botainicare nutes.

Also, need to get pretty good yield (given it's only my first grow) and my medical needs are very high (extreme pain, neurologic condition, migraine, PTSD) and I need to sock away some extra in case I don't get the next grow started for 2-3 months after we move.

...............
Lights (drum roll, here's the main question of the day...) Have been running some old T8s I had lying around and plus 3 LED flouro replacements, plus an 8' commercial white LED that weighs like 45 pounds and looks to be roughly 4000k... They have been supplemented with a few different low-end LEDs I've been testing. Just not impressed with these low end lights (spectrum, output per $/value, hot spotting and coverage overall) and want to upgrade. Crux is the budget: We may have to sell the place and move in about 6 months to a year, so I want to keep the lighting under $700 for now till I see what they next location offers for grow space. Question is: if I only have about $700 for lighting, need to at least cover that 7'x8' room area (and if possible, would be great to have something for the 5'x5' tent to at least run veg in there - unless the flouro and LED flouro replacements are enough(?), what's my best option to buy this week? MH/HPS combo? Lower end CMH? Something else?

Also, bonus round - see my CFO for the $5, she's reallllyyy good about letting me spread cash around, honest, lol - If I need to get a carbon setup and fan for that and/or the lights (can the scrubber and lights share a fan?), what setups should I look at on Amazon?

(Note: was looking at the earlier recs from Events on MH/HPS and filter but wasn't sure it that person's setup, which I had trouble finding) was a close match to mine or not...)

Thanks!!!

700$ won't get you very far for high end leds... Even CMH you would only be able to really get like 945 watts of it which is not nearly enough to cover your space.. Do you have an A/C?
 
Man, tough crowd, lol

Will be brief, which for me means regular length post for most, heh.

Context:
1st grow
Soil
6 plants (currently, may pick up or clone up to 9 others in the next few) but due to requesting certain strains when I got them from the cloner, they range from being cloned 8/20 to 10/10... been nuting and extra lighting the younger ones as hard as I could press them (and FIM'ing and topping the olders) to try to get the sort of caught up and more or less remotely close to the same height and mass overall. Still will be a reach. Plants are roughly 21" on average right now +/- a few inches. 3 Frankenstein, 1 Blue Dream CBD, 1 Orange Purple CBD, 1 Candida.

7'x8'x7'(tall) area plus a couple odd spots with room enough for a plant each, in a 8'x11' dedicated room... just finishing up putting foil-faced foam board on the walls, ceiling, floor.
I also have a 5'x5x80" grow tent I can set up adjacent to the room with secondary heat, etc.

Room has controlled heat for night time, getting a bit of surplus CO2 as the furnace is in the room not far from the door where I'm drawing in air, and I maintain a 28 gal aerated water reservoir, PH to 6.5, to ensure the temps when watering and feeding are good. Botainicare nutes.

Also, need to get pretty good yield (given it's only my first grow) and my medical needs are very high (extreme pain, neurologic condition, migraine, PTSD) and I need to sock away some extra in case I don't get the next grow started for 2-3 months after we move.

...............
Lights (drum roll, here's the main question of the day...) Have been running some old T8s I had lying around and plus 3 LED flouro replacements, plus an 8' commercial white LED that weighs like 45 pounds and looks to be roughly 4000k... They have been supplemented with a few different low-end LEDs I've been testing. Just not impressed with these low end lights (spectrum, output per $/value, hot spotting and coverage overall) and want to upgrade. Crux is the budget: We may have to sell the place and move in about 6 months to a year, so I want to keep the lighting under $700 for now till I see what they next location offers for grow space. Question is: if I only have about $700 for lighting, need to at least cover that 7'x8' room area (and if possible, would be great to have something for the 5'x5' tent to at least run veg in there - unless the flouro and LED flouro replacements are enough(?), what's my best option to buy this week? MH/HPS combo? Lower end CMH? Something else?

Also, bonus round - see my CFO for the $5, she's reallllyyy good about letting me spread cash around, honest, lol - If I need to get a carbon setup and fan for that and/or the lights (can the scrubber and lights share a fan?), what setups should I look at on Amazon?

(Note: was looking at the earlier recs from Events on MH/HPS and filter but wasn't sure it that person's setup, which I had trouble finding) was a close match to mine or not...)

Thanks!!!
get a couple 1k hps and call it a day
honestly it is gonna run you more than 700 to light all your space
unless you break the room down by quadrants and actual growing space ....with space for you to walk around
then we are talking a much differ footprint
 
Would probably cost closer double that to cover a 7x8 area with COBs. Even if you used Vero 29's (as they're cheaper than CXB3590's).

But. You won't have to spend a dime on lighting for years to come after that.
 
Get cheap 1k hps ballasts.. cheap bulbs.. then add repsitsun uvb 10.0 bulbs to the sides of the hps... an example is in my picture... the bright white bulb is uvb bulbs and they hang off the 1k hood
 
get a couple 1k hps and call it a day
honestly it is gonna run you more than 700 to light all your space
unless you break the room down by quadrants and actual growing space ....with space for you to walk around
then we are talking a much differ footprint
that room will atleast need 4 1k's for your growing space as you have basically 4 4x4 quadrents
1k over each

for my first full run I would probably only use 4x8 of that room and hammer out all the kinks before I packed the room
 
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