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Calling Out The Organic Growing Machines

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Calling Out The Organic Growing Machines

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Beer, bacon, bird, done!
 
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oldskol4evr said:
you know you just gave me a idea of thought,with what you say,i often wonder why folk complain and say ocean forest is to hot for there seedlings or seeds,but on the other hand i start a tailed seed in it all the time,ive yet to get a harvest from it without help,but im convinced this is the way things should be,helping each other if you dig,now with your comments maybe the 2 difrent sections of geographic area the stuff is made have something to do with that,,ya just woke half way threw a cup and thinking crazy need to blaze lmao
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I think the huge problem is inconsistency in mixtures of such large bodies. Some guys will only mix 5g at a time. They claim better consistancy. They won't have it any other way. You aren't changing their mind. I mix by hand. I just have to feel the stuff as I work it to know how well it's mixing. Sounds weird but I can feel all the amendments and pockets of amendments. I can feel the tilth and aeration.
 
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Srenots said:
lol rite on
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hey man i got some people some hot water. good enough right? I went to finish a new house i am working on and they aren't anywhere near ready for me. I think i need a career change. Just fucking bank up mad chronic and move to DC and flood them out. Lmfao. Those fool wouldn't know what hit em. I've smoked their weed. So...so
 
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jumpincactus said:
Good luck with that quest!!!!
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They have RKS85 x Guadalajara at swami organic seeds. You should check them out.

Or blue orca x rks/guadalajara. (I heard it was an awesome cross.)

"The Original 1985 RKS cut was taken to Guadalajara ( Actually closer to Michoacan ) over 30 years ago, and has been Hybridized to a local variety for the RKS characteristics, and is now IBL RKS."

You have to make a request to see full listing. He emails it out. He's old school. It's a personal response.

Some believe swami will release original RKS but I know better. He will always sell crosses. If someone got their hands on blue orca or the one hes out of business.

I know a guy who has the original cut of the one. He can't give it out though. Coot gave it to him.

"The One" [Kandahar 73 x Thai stick 76] my unicorn fart
 

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They took RKS back to its original IBL in Guadalajara and reintroduced it to bring the genetics back. Thats a breeder bro, a preserver of the cultivars. I'm collecting because they will be gone before long. The Maui wowie IBL has had to be repopulated 2x because folk ruin the original genetics.

Thats not easy either because it's a selectively bred pheno of Maui wowie IBL that carries smell and flavor of cherries.

Swami uses mr green genes notes to find his cut. He got permission of course. Mr green genes is deceased but his family or proteges still carry the original genetics. This was green genes pride and joy.
 
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Organikz said:
They took RKS back to its original IBL in Guadalajara and reintroduced it to bring the genetics back. Thats a breeder bro, a preserver of the cultivars. I'm collecting because they will be gone before long. The Maui wowie IBL has had to be repopulated 2x because folk ruin the original genetics.

Thats not easy either because it's a selectively bred pheno of Maui wowie IBL that carries smell and flavor of cherries.

Swami uses mr green genes notes to find his cut. He got permission of course. Mr green genes is deceased but his family or proteges still carry the original genetics. This was green genes pride and joy.
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my next score will be the one x punto rojo and vietnam black x panama,sooner or later they be in my seed bank
 
#892
Organikz said:
They took RKS back to its original IBL in Guadalajara and reintroduced it to bring the genetics back. Thats a breeder bro, a preserver of the cultivars. I'm collecting because they will be gone before long. The Maui wowie IBL has had to be repopulated 2x because folk ruin the original genetics.

Thats not easy either because it's a selectively bred pheno of Maui wowie IBL that carries smell and flavor of cherries.

Swami uses mr green genes notes to find his cut. He got permission of course. Mr green genes is deceased but his family or proteges still carry the original genetics. This was green genes pride and joy.
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Very interesting. I was under the understanding that when MR GG passed all his work was lost. Good to know his inner circle kept the gene lines alive and well. As with any thing cannabis related concerning ole skool gene pools I tend to take everything with a grain of salt. The urban legends with cannabis are as varied as the stars...........

To be sure, I understand your statement of being a "breeder" preserving the cultivars. Preservation should be the ultimate goal of anyone calling themselves a breeder. Other wise we will be left with nothing but chuckers with the flavor of the week hybrids. But alas in todays overdrive society wanting to cash in quick, not many have the dedication , time, or patience to really work with a line. I do myself hope n pray that there will be a cannabis gene pool Renaissance that will steer many back to the preservation side and not the get rich quick schemes of many of the young gun chuckers that are prolific now adays.... One can only hope. I havent lost all faith as we both know there are still some good ole boys out there looking in the right direction.....:D:smoking::cool:
 
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so in reality,chuckers as every one calls them,are just thrill seekers right,what is a old fart called that miss the old days of delightful smoke and refuses to come on board with the new generation,,what about those that cannot get these old relic's and would love to have these strains of past,,dont you think that maybe just maybe,these and those chuckers might be trying to make something along those lines of the past and by doing so comes up with something special for himself,i be the first to tell ya i could give a rats ass about money and fame,but would sure like to chucker something so damn close to the taste of columbine its killing me,,but with doing that my friends are gifted what i come up with,what they do with it from there is on them,but they smoked a internet joint from me,and that how i spread the love,,i have a mexican i been working for 15 years now,the day will come when i find the right sativas to make what im trying to acomplish whole,,so were do i fit in ,chucker ,breeder ,i dont claim either i am on a mission to make something that i once had or close,,lone wolfer i will be,,i think in reality the breeders are jelly cause the chuckers are crossing some wild shit,,but look back into time and see how many of the BREEDERS,just renamed someone else find,,ok im off the rant just itchs me every time i here chuckers,thing is when you get about 30 years under your belt chuckers wouldnt that be like a sci fi statis of a breeder
 
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oldskol4evr said:
so in reality,chuckers as every one calls them,are just thrill seekers right,what is a old fart called that miss the old days of delightful smoke and refuses to come on board with the new generation,,what about those that cannot get these old relic's and would love to have these strains of past,,dont you think that maybe just maybe,these and those chuckers might be trying to make something along those lines of the past and by doing so comes up with something special for himself,i be the first to tell ya i could give a rats ass about money and fame,but would sure like to chucker something so damn close to the taste of columbine its killing me,,but with doing that my friends are gifted what i come up with,what they do with it from there is on them,but they smoked a internet joint from me,and that how i spread the love,,i have a mexican i been working for 15 years now,the day will come when i find the right sativas to make what im trying to acomplish whole,,so were do i fit in ,chucker ,breeder ,i dont claim either i am on a mission to make something that i once had or close,,lone wolfer i will be,,i think in reality the breeders are jelly cause the chuckers are crossing some wild shit,,but look back into time and see how many of the BREEDERS,just renamed someone else find,,ok im off the rant just itchs me every time i here chuckers,thing is when you get about 30 years under your belt chuckers wouldnt that be like a sci fi statis of a breeder
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You are respected for your thoughts and opinions. No worries here man. In truth you are correct even the ole skool works were burglarized from others in some form or fashion. I tend to be too literal at times. And at the end of the day even todays most respected breeders all started out as a chucker per se. :D
 
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@jumpincactus
I call a chucker someone who doesn't know what the BOEL is. You have to understand which are close enough to start stabil or be ready to work it for 10 years.

These guys are cultivars because they do things like take RKS back to Guadalajara to bring the pool back up to snuff.
 
#897
Organikz said:
@jumpincactus
I call a chucker someone who doesn't know what the BOEL is. You have to understand which are close enough to start stabil or be ready to work it for 10 years.

These guys are cultivars because they do things like take RKS back to Guadalajara to bring the pool back up to snuff.
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And that is my main point. Most chuckers dont have the resources time or patience. Truly working a line can take decades to fine tune. To me it is someone who is just popping off a quick cross without stabilizing and locking down desired traits. Thereby diluting the gene pools with all sorts of instabilities.

I truly believe most chuckers are good peeps just lacking the dedication and patience. All breeders started with running simple hybrid crosses. Everyone has a place at the table. But I do not appreciate some that throw shit out there to score on cash without really knowing what they are throwing in the hat so to speak.
 
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Organikz said:
@jumpincactus
I call a chucker someone who doesn't know what the BOEL is. You have to understand which are close enough to start stabil or be ready to work it for 10 years.

These guys are cultivars because they do things like take RKS back to Guadalajara to bring the pool back up to snuff.
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Brotherhood of Eternal Love man :D
 
#899
jumpincactus said:
You are respected for your thoughts and opinions. No worries here man. In truth you are correct even the ole skool works were burglarized from others in some form or fashion. I tend to be too literal at times. And at the end of the day even todays most respected breeders all started out as a chucker per se. :D
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they did bro,but as you said,90% are in for the fame and fortune,,me love the old true thai stick the best,lol columbine second best,the true sativa not what they call it these days ,if i only had a third of the seeds i smoked in the days of parquat,uhh ya great smoke back then,im not downing no one,cause the end product is medicine in my eyes,even recreational is medicine for a troubled week dig,one thing for sure we didnt have all these wild ass names for strains back then,they were all named by country of origin,lmao i still cant get past this grannie panties thing,lord of mercy were that feller been hahahah
 
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jumpincactus said:
And that is my main point. Most chuckers dont have the resources time or patience. Truly working a line can take decades to fine tune. To me it is someone who is just popping off a quick cross without stabilizing and locking down desired traits. Thereby diluting the gene pools with all sorts of instabilities.

I truly believe most chuckers are good peeps just lacking the dedication and patience. All breeders started with running simple hybrid crosses. Everyone has a place at the table. But I do not appreciate some that throw shit out there to score on cash without really knowing what they are throwing in the hat so to speak.
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i completly down with that,and happens more than not
 
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