Advanced Nutrients PH Perfect Guide For New Growers

[bunkerking]

Do not PH correct your solution. It will cause pH issues like odd yellow leaf patches and twisted leaves. I know that sounds weird, but it’s true with those nutes. If you call the growers help line on the side of the bottle, they’ll confirm it. The chelates and surfactants in PH perfect nutes are designed to feed the plant in a PH range of about 4-8. If you’re solution is anywhere in that range...you’re good.

They are designed for the rookie grower that doesn’t have a TDS or pH meter. I believe the pH perfect line is great for new growers that may not have all the knowledge and equipment yet.

Coco must be watered multiple times per day. Especially if the pots are drying out fast. You never want the coco to dry out. That will lead to salt lockout. Not watering at least daily in coco is the # 1 cause of most problems I see when people are having problems in coco.

I'’m saying AT LEAST once a day. I say that to not scare people away. Because that is the minimum amount necessary to support the plant. But I also tell people that I do much more than that. The truth is that the more fertigation events you can deliver per day the faster they will grow.

When mixing your nutrient solution, you’ll want to mix it at full strength. Then dilute with RO (or similar zero or low ppm) water until your desired EC is reached. After you do this a few times, you’ll get the measurements down. You’re doing it this way to maintain the Nutrient Element Ratio (NER) intended by the manufacturer, but control the strength of the solution and not burn the plant. Yes, nutrients every time.

So with that in mind, start low and increase the EC as needed.

Water temp around 65*f. Root zone should stay in the upper 60’s low 70’s. Air temp in the upper 70’s if using an HID light. Air temp can be slightly higher using LED lights. Leaf surface temp should be 79*-81*.

Credit: Enforcer



Because the calcium and magnesium salts in most tap waters (not to mention even more chemically complex well and spring waters) create such serious problems, many hydroponic growers, from hobbyists to huge commercial greenhouses, prefer using treated water.


Although a number of water treatment systems exist, reverse-osmosis (RO) is considered the most economical. Water obtained from an RO system is almost as good as expensive distilled water


Credit: Advanced Nutrients

 

[oldskol4evr]

sounds like another gig for folk to spend more money ,if it was all that why wouldnt you be able to use any water be hard or not,my well ph is 7.1 ppm 315,so the nutes wouldnt dome any good,im a newbie and just want to grow some herb right,so the fact you have to buy bottle water would be another cost to the already high cost of the nutes,so all in a nut shell these product look to cater to lazy folk that just want to grow ,but not learn the real art to gardening,if you dig.
no disrespect on your thread could very well help a lot of folks ,but seems like your trying to throw it is impossible to screw up with these product,now on other hand if they really wont to get a market behind it,make the stuff were temps and all water can be used,5 gal of water cost 1.75 here ,but what about over there in cali and such water cost can get up there

 

[MIMedGrower]

Why would it matter if i mixed a lower strength dillution rather than mix full strength and cut it with more water?

Same thing. Same ratio. Same amount of nutrients in the end.

And they should tell customers that using in buffered potting soil wont work. But advanced is the original rip off the pot grower company. And still best. Lol

 

[Aqua Man]

I agree these are the simple not so simple nutrients.

If you go RO mix at 50% strength or close. As I have seen lower create some issues.

There are lots of successful grows.

Tap, well , buffered media, cal mag, and ph adjusting causes issues from what I have seen.

I hate these nutrients with a passion but they will work under a very stringent set of circumstances. People who do this report how easy they are and how well they work. People who don't chase ghosts trying to fix it.

Just my 0.2cents

 

[MIMedGrower]

I agree these are the simple not so simple nutrients.

If you go RO mix at 50% strength or close. As I have seen lower create some issues.

There are lots of successful grows.

Tap, well , buffered media, cal mag, and ph adjusting causes issues from what I have seen.

I hate these nutrients with a passion but they will work under a very stringent set of circumstances. People who do this report how easy they are and how well they work. People who don't chase ghosts trying to fix it.

Just my 0.2cents

How many growers know that ph adjusting their ok water is what is yellowing plants and causing other issues?

 

[Aqua Man]

How many growers know that ph adjusting their ok water is what is yellowing plants and causing other issues?

Right . It goes against everything that makes sense to me. If I hadn't seen all the posts over these nutes and bought them first time. My plants wouldn't stand a chance. I would be like wtf ya mean don't ph them are ya nuts. Granted I'm talking about hydro. Cause we both know phing nutes for soil is well a myth in 99% of scenarios.

 

[MIMedGrower]

Right . It goes against everything that makes sense to me. If I hadn't seen all the posts over these nutes and bought them first time. My plants wouldn't stand a chance. I would be like wtf ya mean don't ph them are ya nuts. Granted I'm talking about hydro. Cause we both know phing nutes for soil is well a myth in 99% of scenarios.

I have known successful black market big hydro producers that did not ph their water. One mixed ro with his well water and others just used normal tap. The nutes should balance out the ph.

And the only instance of adjusting ph on professional ag info is if the water is very highly alkaline. And mixing is preferred then too.

Ro water is expensive and wasteful. It is a bad solution in my mind to use it 100% and add adjusters and cal mag.

 

[Aqua Man]

I have known successful black market big hydro producers that did not ph their water. One mixed ro with his well water and others just used normal tap. The nutes should balance out the ph.

And the only instance of adjusting ph on professional ag info is if the water is bery highly alkaline. And mixing is preferred then too.

Ro water is expensive and wasteful. It is a bad solution in my mind to use it 100% and add adjusters and cal mag.

100% agree if you have right alkalinity in either then you will not have to ph at all. No matter the system. Also the more beneficial microbes the better the ability of ph to self regulate. Both soil and hydro.

Also the crop type being grown will be of importance.

 

[oldskol4evr]

like i said ,when it easy or free it aint garunteed,every time,what gets mne when you lock out how you fix it when every thing is so chemically dialed in per say at least by producers standard,im still trying to figure out how you can even make a honest sales with something that has no garuntee other than word of mouth ,we all know them damn days are gone.
how can you say use ro water at 65 degrees and you will never have any problem ,what about the rest of the game im missing something here haahah

 

[Aqua Man]

like i said ,when it easy or free it aint garunteed,every time,what gets mne when you lock out how you fix it when every thing is so chemically dialed in per say at least by producers standard,im still trying to figure out how you can even make a honest sales with something that has no garuntee other than word of mouth ,we all know them damn days are gone.
how can you say use ro water at 65 degrees and you will never have any problem ,what about the rest of the game im missing something here haahah

Environment is also key. But with these nutes they seem to work if used at 50% in RO water and feeding at right temps is a good idea on small pots.. it's pretty restricting. I'm going to start avoiding threads on them it's just to frustrating to try to explain them.

To me yes it's wasteful and only works in very narrow guidelines. Not ideal but does work under those circumstances.

Also not a fan of AN period. Not that it matters.

 

[oldskol4evr]

Environment is also key. But with these nutes they seem to work if used at 50% in RO water and feeding at right temps is a good idea on small pots.. it's pretty restricting. I'm going to start avoiding threads on them it's just to frustrating to try to explain them.

To me yes it's wasteful and only works in very narrow guidelines. Not ideal but does work under those circumstances.

Also not a fan of AN period. Not that it matters.

my point just hype ,you cant control all it takes to grow weed in a bottle hahahah

 

[oldskol4evr]

what would really be interesting is if they stood behind it for outdoor growing,that be interesting

 

[Aqua Man]

what would really be interesting is if they stood behind it for outdoor growing,that be interesting

Haha I have seen thier website once. I stay away... I think I went off on a tangent in a thread like 8 months ago about it. It seriously gets my blood pressure up trying to get past the first few paragraphs. Like what a fucking joke and constant bold faced lies and half teuths... I getting pissed just thinks ng about it lol. Like how can anyone believe any of that shit.

 

[oldskol4evr]

Haha I have seen thier website once. I stay away... I think I went off on a tangent in a thread like 8 months ago about it. It seriously gets my blood pressure up trying to get past the first few paragraphs. Like what a fucking joke and constant bold faced lies and half teuths... I getting pissed just thinks ng about it lol. Like how can anyone believe any of that shit.

bright side bro,with the world today,man is no longer needed other than to program and run one perfect part a machine,we ave evolved into no need for a gardner just add this stuff walk away and come back in 4 months ,does veg and flower adjust for lights and envorment all in one bottle ,come on bro get into the scene here not the 80's no more hahahah.
really the sad part is folk be buying stuff from dispensary's and just cant stand it and these jokers roll up and talk um into the next best thing,easy to convince a newbie to buy the stuff when they pay a hundred or so for a bag of weed that a joint last about 15 min high,more crazy then that i been getting freaking emails from dispensary's selling the shit online,how hell you get away with that when gov here still hasnt and wont legalize it,thats a fed charge threw the mail

 

[Aqua Man]

bright side bro,with the world today,man is no longer needed other than to program and run one perfect part a machine,we ave evolved into no need for a gardner just add this stuff walk away and come back in 4 months ,does veg and flower adjust for lights and envorment all in one bottle ,come on bro get into the scene here not the 80's no more hahahah.
really the sad part is folk be buying stuff from dispensary's and just cant stand it and these jokers roll up and talk um into the next best thing,easy to convince a newbie to buy the stuff when they pay a hundred or so for a bag of weed that a joint last about 15 min high,more crazy then that i been getting freaking emails from dispensary's selling the shit online,how hell you get away with that when gov here still hasnt and wont legalize it,thats a fed charge threw the mail

Truth

 

[Enforcer]

Do not PH correct your solution. It will cause pH issues like odd yellow leaf patches and twisted leaves. I know that sounds weird, but it’s true with those nutes. If you call the growers help line on the side of the bottle, they’ll confirm it. The chelates and surfactants in PH perfect nutes are designed to feed the plant in a PH range of about 4-8. If you’re solution is anywhere in that range...you’re good.

They are designed for the rookie grower that doesn’t have a TDS or pH meter. I believe the pH perfect line is great for new growers that may not have all the knowledge and equipment yet.

Coco must be watered multiple times per day. Especially if the pots are drying out fast. You never want the coco to dry out. That will lead to salt lockout. Not watering at least daily in coco is the # 1 cause of most problems I see when people are having problems in coco.

I'’m saying AT LEAST once a day. I say that to not scare people away. Because that is the minimum amount necessary to support the plant. But I also tell people that I do much more than that. The truth is that the more fertigation events you can deliver per day the faster they will grow.

When mixing your nutrient solution, you’ll want to mix it at full strength. Then dilute with RO (or similar zero or low ppm) water until your desired EC is reached. After you do this a few times, you’ll get the measurements down. You’re doing it this way to maintain the Nutrient Element Ratio (NER) intended by the manufacturer, but control the strength of the solution and not burn the plant. Yes, nutrients every time.

So with that in mind, start low and increase the EC as needed.

Water temp around 65*f. Root zone should stay in the upper 60’s low 70’s. Air temp in the upper 70’s if using an HID light. Air temp can be slightly higher using LED lights. Leaf surface temp should be 79*-81*.

Credit: Enforcer



Because the calcium and magnesium salts in most tap waters (not to mention even more chemically complex well and spring waters) create such serious problems, many hydroponic growers, from hobbyists to huge commercial greenhouses, prefer using treated water.


Although a number of water treatment systems exist, reverse-osmosis (RO) is considered the most economical. Water obtained from an RO system is almost as good as expensive distilled water


Credit: Advanced Nutrients

I started reading these and I was all damn these posts sound familiar. Then I saw the credit.

 

[MIMedGrower]

what would really be interesting is if they stood behind it for outdoor growing,that be interesting

They do. You have to buy 9 other bottles.

 

[Enforcer]

They do. You have to buy 9 other bottles.

That’s true lol. And what’s up with VooDoo Juice, Tarantula, and Piranha. How many bottles of microbes do people need?? Especially at those prices.

 

[MIMedGrower]

That’s true lol. And what’s up with VooDoo Juice, Tarantula, and Piranha. How many bottles of microbes do people need?? Especially at those prices.

Obviously three. ;-)


Dont forget the 3 bloom boosters to go with the microbes.

 

[Aqua Man]

That’s true lol. And what’s up with VooDoo Juice, Tarantula, and Piranha. How many bottles of microbes do people need?? Especially at those prices.

I'm just waiting for the temp adjusting bottle. Ensures that plants have optimal growth between 75-80f all you need is to add 1litre a week and keep your temps in that range for optimal growth.