Round 2 with Mephisto and NightOwl

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You only want to dome them until they pop out of their husk. After that, they need airflow and lower humidity.
Ok, I've had great results with using a dome until the leaves are touching the container. They still get airflow but humidity stays a little higher a little longer... (or) raise the humidity in the tent for a while....maybe 70% or so...? That's what I give mine. But everyone's (strain/grow room/setup) are different. IMO, they are not in veg yet and seedlings require higher RH in the 70-80 range. Is that Correct? Just tryin to help...
 
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Can't you use a dome (clear bag) something that can help raise you RH? May help to put them on for a week or so? I'm following to see your grow... They will pull through and be fine... You got this.
(Looks like they are stretching too) How far away is the light?
I had the light very high. I lowered it when I saw they were stretching. it's 3 feet from the canopy.
 
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I had the light very high. I lowered it when I saw they were stretching. it's 3 feet from the canopy.
seedlings stretch for other reasons than light distance.. like too warm a root zone and a hot ambient temp can make them stretch., so watch lowering your light on those babies
 
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Ok, I've had great results with using a dome until the leaves are touching the container. They still get airflow but humidity stays a little higher a little longer... (or) raise the humidity in the tent for a while....maybe 70% or so...? That's what I give mine. But everyone's (strain/grow room/setup) are different. IMO, they are not in veg yet and seedlings require higher RH in the 70-80 range. Is that Correct? Just tryin to help...
Thanks my friend.
 
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Ok, I've had great results with using a dome until the leaves are touching the container. They still get airflow but humidity stays a little higher a little longer... (or) raise the humidity in the tent for a while....maybe 70% or so...? That's what I give mine. But everyone's (strain/grow room/setup) are different. IMO, they are not in veg yet and seedlings require higher RH in the 70-80 range. Is that Correct? Just tryin to help...
I thought about using the domes. But I had 6 seedlings dampen off the last time I used domes. And they were Barney's Farm that I paid good money for...
 
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Do these look like pre flowers or secondary branches? I can't tell. Plants are 27 days from sprout.
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I thought about using the domes. But I had 6 seedlings dampen off the last time I used domes. And they were Barney's Farm that I paid good money for...
I feel ya as you have to really go by your own experience. I have done both, the dome helps when I cant put them in the tent at the needed humidity. If the tent is open and can accommodate the higher humidity then I put them in without the dome. It all comes down to what the plants need at the stage they are in. AND your previous experience with it. My own quote... "SO many variables" lol --- My current grow - Afgoo from Growers Choice. 4th Week in flower. These were domed. The Rh was raised to about 80% during this time as the Tent was in use for drying.
 
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Do these look like pre flowers or secondary branches? I can't tell. Plants are 27 days from sprout.View attachment 1323312View attachment 1323313
RO water kills my plants....There's nothing in it, the only nutes you have available to your plant are in the soil. multiple watering with RO depletes the available nutes in the soil & your plant......You need to add everything your plant needs to survive seeing as a lot of it has been stripped out using RO water........

There's been a bit of mis information above stating 68f is the low point...My flower room drops to 64-65f at night with no problems. It brings out the color in my girls but it sure doesn't hurt them.......I only add heat when lights are on to bring my daytime temps up to a min of 76f.......I'd like 78f -83 f but without adding any heat they do well at 76f and night times 64 - 65f.

In my veg closet my lights keep it at 76f but when it gets real cold I've a heat lamp I can turn on and it brings my temps up where I need them. In my tent I use a fined oil heater just when lights are on....

Running my lights at night screws me up and the plants suffer. With lights on through the day I've all day to deal with them.....if they're on at night I either have to get at them at lights on.....too late for me......or lights off...too early for me......working on them in the dark just sucks........
 
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RO water kills my plants....There's nothing in it, the only nutes you have available to your plant are in the soil. multiple watering with RO depletes the available nutes in the soil & your plant......You need to add everything your plant needs to survive seeing as a lot of it has been stripped out using RO water........

There's been a bit of mis information above stating 68f is the low point...My flower room drops to 64-65f at night with no problems. It brings out the color in my girls but it sure doesn't hurt them.......I only add heat when lights are on to bring my daytime temps up to a min of 76f.......I'd like 78f -83 f but without adding any heat they do well at 76f and night times 64 - 65f.

In my veg closet my lights keep it at 76f but when it gets real cold I've a heat lamp I can turn on and it brings my temps up where I need them. In my tent I use a fined oil heater just when lights are on....

Running my lights at night screws me up and the plants suffer. With lights on through the day I've all day to deal with them.....if they're on at night I either have to get at them at lights on.....too late for me......or lights off...too early for me......working on them in the dark just sucks........
Growing in coco not soil. I give em plenty of Grow nutrients and a lil Cal\mag. The ph was too high and not all of the nutrients were available. I think I got bunk bag of coco. I used canna coco bagged. And I used it right out of the bag. But it needed to be washed and buffered .
Also reading that ro water strips the ions out of the water? Idk lol
 
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Growing in coco not soil. I give em plenty of Grow nutrients and a lil Cal\mag. The ph was too high and not all of the nutrients were available. I think I got bunk bag of coco. I used canna coco bagged. And I used it right out of the bag. But it needed to be washed and buffered .
Also reading that ro water strips the ions out of the water? Idk lol
I know knot about coco other than it gives those that don't know how to use it troubles. I'm in promix and its a very simple water / feed/water/ feed from 3 weeks until the end. The first 3 weeks the soil has enough in it to sustain my plants.

I use RO for my humidifiers and I've fed it to my girls the last week of there life....wow...watch the leaves turn yellow red then die. One feed with RO only they go yellow...2 feeds back to back just about kills them off
 
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This question is for my coco aficionados. I am feeding 100 ppm Protekt silica, 400 ppm of DynaGro Grow and 100 ppm of Bloom City Cal mag for a total of 600 ppm at a ph of 5.5-5.6. And for some reason my Ph is drifting very high. My runnoff was up to 6.8 ph today and I just did a flush less than a week ago. It was at 6.0. I can't quite figure it out.
 
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Plants don't look too good. I have every aspect covered. Temp is always 72-78. RH is 55-65%.
Light is on 20 percent of a 600 watt led. I feed once a day 450 ppm in 3 gallon fabric pots. The 2 Mephisto ladies are not looking very good.
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On one hand they look like they are hungry. But the pots are not dry on the bottom or light when I pick them up. So I think they are over watered. Idk maybe I should leave em be for a couple days to let the coco dry some?
You can't see it in the picture but the stems are purple.
 
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I think I would do better in smaller pots. I want to be able to feed multiple times a day. Even in the early stages. I think I will try 1 gallon fabric pots next.
 
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Should I keep feeding them every day or let the coco dryback until the bottom of the pot feels dry and it feels lighter?
 
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This site doesn't get alot of traffic anymore. A couple of years ago people would have responded to this by now.
 
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Not many people read grow diaries (or post in them). If you have a specific question, it'd be better to post that question to a more appropriate thread rather than buried in a grow diary.

I also don't grow in coco, so I can't be of much help with your issue, but I'd recommend hopping over to the coco forum.
 
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I also have zero coco experience, bit from what I've sponged up here on the forum... could it be ph lockout? They don't appear to be taking in what you're feeding with that color they have going on, for one reason or another.
 
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I also have zero coco experience, bit from what I've sponged up here on the forum... could it be ph lockout? They don't appear to be taking in what you're feeding with that color they have going on, for one reason or another.
Yeah it's definitely a ph lockout. I was adding a butt load of silica and I think it messed up my ph of my coco. I discontinued the silica and I will foliar feed the silica until they recover. I may just discontinue silica all together. This shit really has me bummed out.
 
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Yeah it's definitely a ph lockout. I was adding a butt load of silica and I think it messed up my ph of my coco. I discontinued the silica and I will foliar feed the silica until they recover. I may just discontinue silica all together. This shit really has me bummed out.
That sucks man, there's always next time. I'm nowhere near a precise enough gardener to even attempt coco, too finicky, and autos are also not forgiving and finicky. I like good old fashioned dirt. Currently doing my first auto and I too am not having a fantastic first experience with them. One got stuck and I had to manually remove the casing, so it got stunted obviously, the other was looking great then dropped balls at 3 weeks and I just sent him to the great weed field in the sky on Saturday. Can't win em all. My runt is looking ok now though, yours could make a comeback.
 
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