Wtf is wrong with my plant?? Pls help

[JGrows]

I came back from a 2 day vacation and my plant is dying. The day I left I noticed little brown spots on my plants like the smaller leaves you see but just on 1 of them. Today I come back and it looks terrible. Other plant is just fine though

 

[JGrows]

These are the plant under lights

 

[BB22]

New grower. Looks they need N.

No drama

 

[JGrows]

Nitrogen? Definitely new and need the help of people who do this kinda thing cause man do all these problems look the same LMAO. Thanks man I’ll wait for others to chime in and get a good opinion. Thanks for the fast reply I’m freaking out as I only started with 2 and just got my tent In

 

[Grapefruitroop]

The ph of the soil went out of range, they may need also more feed but first check the ph of the solution or water you are using

 

[BB22]

Yes, nitrogen

I meant that I’m a new grower.

Lots of good help here

 

[JGrows]

The ph of the soil went out of range, they may need also more feed but first check the ph of the solution or water you are using

It was at this moment I realized the last feed I did on the soil was when I potted them. Which was over a month ago so I just top dressed with a little worm castings and a 1/4 tsp of 4-4-4 till I can get her healthy enough to transplant into a newly fed soil with mykos which I also forgot. Still learning the ropes of this! LOL. I’m a chef so my work schedule keeps me so busy

 

[JGrows]

Do you guys recommend a full feed them transplant or wait a few days then get her In

 

[JGrows]

The ph of the soil went out of range, they may need also more feed but first check the ph of the solution or water you are using

I PH the water to 6.5 and do about a 3 gallon bucket at a time as I have house plants I feed with the same water. I use fox farm ocean floor as I’m in Vegas and our soil here isn’t great at any hydroponic store

 

[Grapefruitroop]

I would say Yes, full feed at the right ph....that for soil can go also to 7
Just as a talk....
I quit organic soil grows because of the high CEC of the peat that acts as a buffer between your feed inputs and the absorbtion of the nutrients by the plant.
Now that you added that 4 -4-4 meal we dont know how long is gona take for the microbes to process and plant to absorb it and also we dont know the amount that is beein released during the first watering and the following others....
A bit easier would be if you were using mineral nutes alternated with plain water or even better coco or rockwool
Organic weed is awesome but i feel that her place is in outdoor grows...indoor, go hydro, much easier to control the feeding program and to correct posible mistakes or problems....its cleaner and if you cant get quality soil over there then dont esitate to read about rockwool...its awesome as far as yields.
Also properly done mineral grows can taste as good as organic if not better.... more clean without weird contaminants that are present in organic meals and fertilizers....

 

[Johnlandy420]

I would say Yes, full feed at the right ph....that for soil can go also to 7
Just as a talk....
I quit organic soil grows because of the high CEC of the peat that acts as a buffer between your feed inputs and the absorbtion of the nutrients by the plant.
Now that you added that 4 -4-4 meal we dont know how long is gona take for the microbes to process and plant to absorb it and also we dont know the amount that is beein released during the first watering and the following others....
A bit easier would be if you were using mineral nutes alternated with plain water or even better coco or rockwool
Organic weed is awesome but i feel that her place is in outdoor grows...indoor, go hydro, much easier to control the feeding program and to correct posible mistakes or problems....its cleaner and if you cant get quality soil over there then dont esitate to read about rockwool...its awesome as far as yields.
Also properly done mineral grows can taste as good as organic if not better.... more clean without weird contaminants that are present in organic meals and fertilizers....

Yes, I do agree about pH. Microbes can't break down nutrients in proper ratios if pH is outta whack. Smaller plants are more susceptible because they have much less of a buffer/root system. I also second full feed recommendation. Give her a week or so and she will sort it out.

 

[Johnlandy420]

It was at this moment I realized the last feed I did on the soil was when I potted them. Which was over a month ago so I just top dressed with a little worm castings and a 1/4 tsp of 4-4-4 till I can get her healthy enough to transplant into a newly fed soil with mykos which I also forgot. Still learning the ropes of this! LOL. I’m a chef so my work schedule keeps me so busy

Well hurry the hell up and give me some good edible recipes Mr. Chef!

 

[Imzzaudae]

Hello Chef. I did the whole trade school food service program, Apprenticeship program 1 term Lambton College and 3 Kensington Campus George Brown College in Toronto back in the very early 80s. Decided it was not for me and I got out of the business in about 90. Spent 30 years driving big rig west and north of Edmonton. AB. BC. YK and Alaska. Even did a few ice roads way back in the good old days when ever they where.

After reading your post and looking your plant over. I'd say try not to use worm castings with Ocean Forest. If your not super careful watering.
Castings in a non living soil potting mixes can create mold problems you really don't want to deal with. You are far better off to keep it in the family with Fox Farms products.

I'd say that the 4-4-4 will get your plant buy if you transplant in the next week or so. Be very careful with Ocean Forest! It's super hot.
I'd fill the pot 2/3 with Ocean forest. Mix enough to finish flling the pot. 50/50 peat moss based potting mix and Ocean forest.
Plant the seedling in the top 1/3 of toned down mix so as not to have it sitting in real hot soil. You can just water with straight water for 3 weeks
after transplanting.

If you would like to help your medium.
1 Gallon Ocean forest potting mix
Add 40 grams of garden lime pr gallon of potting mix. Peat is quite acid. Helps bring the ph up - Adds Magnesium and Calcium.
Add 10 grams of Gypsum pellets pr gallon of soil. Adds Calcium and Sulfur.
1/4 cup Rice Hulls is silica.
Hand mix very well befor filling pots

If you don't use rice hulls. Add any silica (liquid) amendment to your feeding skedual.

If you look closely at your sick plant.
The brown blotching on the leaves is conducent with calcium deficiency.
There is also inter vainel stripping in the leaves. Magnesium deficiency.

Plant quite yellow, I'd say that your ocian forest ran out of food (Nitrogen) for your plant some time ago,
and your plant also requires a little cal-mag in your watering solution. Maybe a double shot first time.
As directed after that.

Transplant asap, Water with cal-mag in your feeding solution as directed.
Start feeding Fox Farm nutrients about 3 weeks after transplanting and your in great shape.

 

[JGrows]

With all the nutes I can add and if I stopped doing the organic growing what would be the ratios? I think that’s the part that deters me is it’s pretty confusing until someone breaks it down for me. If any threads can be linked or shared that explains that I’d love to give a read. I think I’m going to go get some more soil and transplant. Add the proper nutrition and water it in. Any charts or journals would be an awesome read for me!

 

[JGrows]

I would say Yes, full feed at the right ph....that for soil can go also to 7
Just as a talk....
I quit organic soil grows because of the high CEC of the peat that acts as a buffer between your feed inputs and the absorbtion of the nutrients by the plant.
Now that you added that 4 -4-4 meal we dont know how long is gona take for the microbes to process and plant to absorb it and also we dont know the amount that is beein released during the first watering and the following others....
A bit easier would be if you were using mineral nutes alternated with plain water or even better coco or rockwool
Organic weed is awesome but i feel that her place is in outdoor grows...indoor, go hydro, much easier to control the feeding program and to correct posible mistakes or problems....its cleaner and if you cant get quality soil over there then dont esitate to read about rockwool...its awesome as far as yields.
Also properly done mineral grows can taste as good as organic if not better.... more clean without weird contaminants that are present in organic meals and fertilizers....

What would be the recommendation rightnow too feed with? I can transplant today into more soil but all I’m gonna have is the fox farm for the rest of the grow so is there something I can add to help the absorbtion? Water it into the soil with some power bloom and hope for the best?

 

[JGrows]

Hello Chef. I did the whole trade school food service program, Apprenticeship program 1 term Lambton College and 3 Kensington Campus George Brown College in Toronto back in the very early 80s. Decided it was not for me and I got out of the business in about 90. Spent 30 years driving big rig west and north of Edmonton. AB. BC. YK and Alaska. Even did a few ice roads way back in the good old days when ever they where.

After reading your post and looking your plant over. I'd say try not to use worm castings with Ocean Forest. If your not super careful watering.
Castings in a non living soil potting mixes can create mold problems you really don't want to deal with. You are far better off to keep it in the family with Fox Farms products.

I'd say that the 4-4-4 will get your plant buy if you transplant in the next week or so. Be very careful with Ocean Forest! It's super hot.
I'd fill the pot 2/3 with Ocean forest. Mix enough to finish flling the pot. 50/50 peat moss based potting mix and Ocean forest.
Plant the seedling in the top 1/3 of toned down mix so as not to have it sitting in real hot soil. You can just water with straight water for 3 weeks
after transplanting.

If you would like to help your medium.
1 Gallon Ocean forest potting mix
Add 40 grams of garden lime pr gallon of potting mix. Peat is quite acid. Helps bring the ph up - Adds Magnesium and Calcium.
Add 10 grams of Gypsum pellets pr gallon of soil. Adds Calcium and Sulfur.
1/4 cup Rice Hulls is silica.
Hand mix very well befor filling pots

If you don't use rice hulls. Add any silica (liquid) amendment to your feeding skedual.

If you look closely at your sick plant.
The brown blotching on the leaves is conducent with calcium deficiency.
There is also inter vainel stripping in the leaves. Magnesium deficiency.

Plant quite yellow, I'd say that your ocian forest ran out of food (Nitrogen) for your plant some time ago,
and your plant also requires a little cal-mag in your watering solution. Maybe a double shot first time.
As directed after that.

Transplant asap, Water with cal-mag in your feeding solution as directed.
Start feeding Fox Farm nutrients about 3 weeks after transplanting and your in great shape.

It’s a pleasure then! Thank you for all the solid info but as I said I have time today I ended up having to go in early but I just feel so bad for them. The plant is deteriorating fast and I know I need to fix it. I’m gonna try the cal mag and a nitrogen nute. Hit her with some mykos and transplant. Luckily I have some cococoir as I also keep tortoises so I’m gonna loosen some up and throw it in there

 

[Grapefruitroop]

I would say let always keep it simple, mine was just a talk, i dont want to confuse you redirecting to some other teks...
But yeah there are interesting reading around about coco and rockwool
So in wich size pot the plants are?
if you are next to a transplant then dont worry too much, transplant it in the fresh soil , that i guess has already nutes in it, so do a couple plain water watering then feed with a liquid or powder complete nutrient formula.....i use Masterblend...i used in the past megacrop and maxibloom....or you could use also the fox farm ones....whatever is easy to find for you that is mineral and complete (like NPK plus MICROelements) will do...

Also keep in mind that LED require more nutrients, more temperature and more humidity than HID....thats why i think is easy to dose, control and adjust the nutes level when using mineral ones

 

[Comnconnection]

Yo, yeah they are just rootbound and need food. Keep it simple, transplant into 2-3gal pot of roots organic soil. Sprinkle some great white in transplant hole. Add a 1/3 bag worm castings, 1tbls fish meal, some Mykos, and 2 tbls oyster shell to bag of soil if you don’t want to use liquid food. Water pH 6.3-6.8. Add a 2ml/gal thrive alive to transplant water. Use 1ml/gal cal-mag each water as well if using r/o . Big fabric pots or beds of soil are going to be best if you’re a chef. You want 4-5 days in between waterings so you can be gone often.

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

I've seen the yellowing of the whole plant like that before. It probably was nutrient lockout caused by watering too frequently. It also looks like they're still in nursery cups, so they need to be transplanted.

 

[JGrows]

I've seen the yellowing of the whole plant like that before. It probably was nutrient lockout caused by watering too frequently. It also looks like they're still in nursery cups, so they need to be transplanted.

Yo, yeah they are just rootbound and need food. Keep it simple, transplant into 2-3gal pot of roots organic soil. Sprinkle some great white in transplant hole. Add a 1/3 bag worm castings, 1tbls fish meal, some Mykos, and 2 tbls oyster shell to bag of soil if you don’t want to use liquid food. Water pH 6.3-6.8. Add a 2ml/gal thrive alive to transplant water. Use 1ml/gal cal-mag each water as well if using r/o . Big fabric pots or beds of soil are going to be best if you’re a chef. You want 4-5 days in between waterings so you can be gone often.

I would say let always keep it simple, mine was just a talk, i dont want to confuse you redirecting to some other teks...
But yeah there are interesting reading around about coco and rockwool
So in wich size pot the plants are?
if you are next to a transplant then dont worry too much, transplant it in the fresh soil , that i guess has already nutes in it, so do a couple plain water watering then feed with a liquid or powder complete nutrient formula.....i use Masterblend...i used in the past megacrop and maxibloom....or you could use also the fox farm ones....whatever is easy to find for you that is mineral and complete (like NPK plus MICROelements) will do...

Also keep in mind that LED require more nutrients, more temperature and more humidity than HID....thats why i think is easy to dose, control and adjust the nutes level when using mineral ones

Well hurry the hell up and give me some good edible recipes Mr. Chef!

Hello Chef. I did the whole trade school food service program, Apprenticeship program 1 term Lambton College and 3 Kensington Campus George Brown College in Toronto back in the very early 80s. Decided it was not for me and I got out of the business in about 90. Spent 30 years driving big rig west and north of Edmonton. AB. BC. YK and Alaska. Even did a few ice roads way back in the good old days when ever they where.

After reading your post and looking your plant over. I'd say try not to use worm castings with Ocean Forest. If your not super careful watering.
Castings in a non living soil potting mixes can create mold problems you really don't want to deal with. You are far better off to keep it in the family with Fox Farms products.

I'd say that the 4-4-4 will get your plant buy if you transplant in the next week or so. Be very careful with Ocean Forest! It's super hot.
I'd fill the pot 2/3 with Ocean forest. Mix enough to finish flling the pot. 50/50 peat moss based potting mix and Ocean forest.
Plant the seedling in the top 1/3 of toned down mix so as not to have it sitting in real hot soil. You can just water with straight water for 3 weeks
after transplanting.

If you would like to help your medium.
1 Gallon Ocean forest potting mix
Add 40 grams of garden lime pr gallon of potting mix. Peat is quite acid. Helps bring the ph up - Adds Magnesium and Calcium.
Add 10 grams of Gypsum pellets pr gallon of soil. Adds Calcium and Sulfur.
1/4 cup Rice Hulls is silica.
Hand mix very well befor filling pots

If you don't use rice hulls. Add any silica (liquid) amendment to your feeding skedual.

If you look closely at your sick plant.
The brown blotching on the leaves is conducent with calcium deficiency.
There is also inter vainel stripping in the leaves. Magnesium deficiency.

Plant quite yellow, I'd say that your ocian forest ran out of food (Nitrogen) for your plant some time ago,
and your plant also requires a little cal-mag in your watering solution. Maybe a double shot first time.
As directed after that.

Transplant asap, Water with cal-mag in your feeding solution as directed.
Start feeding Fox Farm nutrients about 3 weeks after transplanting and your in great shape.

If yall are interested in the look of them now due to all the help!