Septoria? Deficiency? Help me please !

[Eledin]

I said my bad, I confused septoria with tobbaco mosaic virus, I think I rectified my error there. But wether is a virus or a fungus it needs to travel somewhere and septoria is not nearly as prevalent as botrytis or mildew, google it. Also I mentioned high humidity for botrytis not septoria but since you mention it yes, high humidity plays a huge role in septoria getting way worse, google it
I will tell you if you are right but also if you are wrong. What I said about it being nearly impossible was for tobbaco mosaic virus too so that was wrong too, but septoria again, is not nearly as prevalent as powdery mildew or botrytis, plus the pattern of the stains is not exclusively round and the tips are burnt which makes me think is nute or light related, or both. What do you think?
If its septoria, it will be way more easy to tell in a more advanced stage.

 

[Eledin]

Also I dont think my 10 years of experience is everything, I often use google but I screw up like everyone else from time to time. But living in a farming village, not getting septoria in 10 years while I had botrytis plenty of times and oidium a few times... I think its enough time to get to that conclussion. (Plus google backs what I say about it being more rare, I made sure, the spores dont get as far.)

 

[Grownsince95]

I said my bad, I confused septoria with tobbaco mosaic virus, I think I rectified my error there. But wether is a virus or a fungus it needs to travel somewhere and septoria is not nearly as prevalent as botrytis or mildew, google it. Also I mentioned high humidity for botrytis not septoria but since you mention it yes, high humidity plays a huge role in septoria getting way worse, google it
I will tell you if you are right but also if you are wrong. What I said about it being nearly impossible was for tobbaco mosaic virus too so that was wrong too, but septoria again, is not nearly as prevalent as powdery mildew or botrytis, plus the pattern of the stains is not exclusively round which makes me think is nute related. What do you think?
If its septoria, it will be way more easy to tell in a more advanced stage.

There's only one way to tell for sure and that's with a microscope. End of story.

Confusing TMV with septoria is on you, and probably just another case of someone doing more reading than growing.

But now that you've got it down to "either calcium, magnesium or potassium deficiency" I curious to see your solution.

 

[Dr.DubDank]

Deficiency? Septoria? First time grower here, I started to notice these spots as in today. The bottom half of the plant has normal healthy leaves with some Nut burns from previous issues. Only the top half has leaves like this along with some Nut burns tips… my plant seemed all well until I started to increase the light % and put a big dehumidifier to keep the rH 35%-45% it fluctuates, I try to keep it 35-40% but it’s hard! The humidity very rarely goes above that. I have good air flow as well i can’t figure it out.

Dude DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE FOOLS!! Your ph is off 100% guarantee it! When you ph is off you'll get nutrient lock so you'll add and add and kill them faster!

 

[Dr.DubDank]

Deficiency? Septoria? First time grower here, I started to notice these spots as in today. The bottom half of the plant has normal healthy leaves with some Nut burns from previous issues. Only the top half has leaves like this along with some Nut burns tips… my plant seemed all well until I started to increase the light % and put a big dehumidifier to keep the rH 35%-45% it fluctuates, I try to keep it 35-40% but it’s hard! The humidity very rarely goes above that. I have good air flow as well i can’t figure it out.

100 % it is your ph do no give them cal/mag that's newbie bullshit advice! Your honestly in a very bad time to have problems like ph because there's no quick fix. I promise you everything you give them cal/mag you will make you ph even higher even more base! You have to ignore the half wits!

 

[Bukwhokee12]

I’m so confused on what to believe or not I just wanted help!

 

[Bukwhokee12]

100 % it is your ph do no give them cal/mag that's newbie bullshit advice! Your honestly in a very bad time to have problems like ph because there's no quick fix. I promise you everything you give them cal/mag you will make you ph even higher even more base! You have to ignore the half wits!

What do I need to do? I try to keep my ph 6.2-6.5 and it usually stays that way. Since I’m in a “bad time for ph issues” what are the cons that I’m going to be facing

 

[Dr.DubDank]

What do I need to do? I try to keep my ph 6.2-6.5 and it usually stays that way. Since I’m in a “bad time for ph issues” what are the cons that I’m going to be facing

 

[Eledin]

100 % it is your ph do no give them cal/mag that's newbie bullshit advice! Your honestly in a very bad time to have problems like ph because there's no quick fix. I promise you everything you give them cal/mag you will make you ph even higher even more base! You have to ignore the half wits!

Dont listen to this troll, every once in a while some people with a lot of resentment create a new account to try to fuck with us in the forum. He probably thinks we dont know already but its clear as day. I already asked for your ph, didnt I? You ph your water at 6,2-6,5 so thats perfect, your PH is okay. Plus if you add calmag and the ph goes up you just add more ph down, this guy is just trolling trust me. Petty of him to make a new account every time he feels like trolling but he must have a sad life.

 

[Dr.DubDank]

Man make sure you ph all your water to around 6 maybe a little lower like 5.7 and buy some aluminum sulfate or iron sulfate and follow the dosing instructions. And hope for the best since your so far into flower

 

[Eledin]

There's only one way to tell for sure and that's with a microscope. End of story.

Confusing TMV with septoria is on you, and probably just another case of someone doing more reading than growing.

But now that you've got it down to "either calcium, magnesium or potassium deficiency" I curious to see your solution.

Well now you said something useful at least instead of just bashing me for having a brain fart which would have not changed my opinion anyway because I dont think its either of the two, not tobbaco virus nor septoria. I asked what he is feeding, Im waiting for information. You acuse me of doing more reading than growing? Okay, that came out of nowhere whats up with all the hostility suddenly?

 

[Eledin]

Man make sure you ph all your water to around 6 maybe a little lower like 5.7 and buy some aluminum sulfate or iron sulfate and follow the dosing instructions. And hope for the best since your so far into flower

Thats actually a good idea, except for the aluminium sulfate. Coco is better at around 6ph or little less, but never go below 5,5. He is still a clown though.

 

[Bukwhokee12]

Dont listen to this troll, every once in a while some people with a lot of resentment create a new account to try to fuck with us in the forum. He probably thinks we dont know already but it’s clear as day. I already asked for your ph, didnt I? You ph your water at 6,2-6,5 so thats perfect, your PH is okay. Plus if you add calmag and the ph goes up you just add more ph down, this guy is just trolling trust me. Petty of him to make a new account every time he feels like trolling but he must have a sad life.

I added it! Gonna see how it looks within the couple days. I assume I also need to lower the intensity of the light as well probably to 80% I’ve been using bloom juice from VIVOSUN bloom juice ,420cal mag , fox farm beastie boyz and recharge!

 

[Bukwhokee12]

Dont listen to this troll, every once in a while some people with a lot of resentment create a new account to try to fuck with us in the forum. He probably thinks we dont know already but its clear as day. I already asked for your ph, didnt I? You ph your water at 6,2-6,5 so thats perfect, your PH is okay. Plus if you add calmag and the ph goes up you just add more ph down, this guy is just trolling trust me. Petty of him to make a new account every time he feels like trolling but he must have a sad life.

Iron sulfate? Got a brand in mind? Never herd about using this

 

[Grownsince95]

Well now you said something useful at least instead of just bashing me for having a brain fart which would have not changed my opinion anyway because I dont think its either of the two, not tobbaco virus nor septoria. I asked what he is feeding, Im waiting for information. You acuse me of doing more reading than growing? Okay, that came out of nowhere whats up with all the hostility suddenly?

No hostility intended. But if you're so confidently ruling out one thing (while misspeaking about it) and suggesting there may be 3 other possible problems, you're not really helping the op that much eh?

I'm sorry, but any experienced grower would never look at those pics and suggest there was a potassium or magnesium issue. That's where the "reading" comment came from.

It's literally septoria season right now. Late spring and early summer. Watch how many more threads like this show up at this time every year.

Now I'm not saying that the OP has septoria, but there's a way to check and it's not mental masturbation.

Stick around long enough and you'll get it.

 

[Eledin]

I added it! Gonna see how it looks within the couple days. I assume I also need to lower the intensity of the light as well probably to 80% I’ve been using bloom juice from VIVOSUN bloom juice ,420cal mag , fox farm beastie boyz and recharge!

I was expecting that you waited until we know what you feed them hahaha. Are you following the chart for each one? Do you use calmag regularly? I see you might be lacking nitrogen, vivosun bloom is not suposed to be used alone, check the chart:

 

[Eledin]

No hostility intended. But if you're so confidently ruling out one thing (while misspeaking about it) and suggesting there may be 3 other possible problems, you're not really helping the op that much eh?

I'm sorry, but any experienced grower would never look at those pics and suggest there was a potassium or magnesium issue. That's where the "reading" comment came from.

It's literally septoria season right now. Late spring and early summer. Watch how many more threads like this show up at this time every year.

Now I'm not saying that the OP has septoria, but there's a way to check and it's not mental masturbation.

Stick around long enough and you'll get it.

You are growing in a shed, you said it, dirty tools and nasty bugs. He is growing indoors, with no contact with any outdoors plants. I already suspected it wasnt septoria, that made it more clear, am I 100% sure? Never, how could I be? Many problems at first look the same but its 4 people counting me that think its not septoria. Could we all be wrong and you might be right? Yes, he needs to check with a microscope to make sure, thats the good suggestion I was talking about, but look what he is feeding... no way the plants are gonna be healthy that way. Still think is not septoria but I dont think Im always right.

 

[Bukwhokee12]

I was expecting that you waited until we know what you feed them hahaha. Are you following the chart for each one? Do you use calmag regularly? I see you might be lacking nitrogen, vivosun bloom is not suposed to be used alone, check the chart:
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(420cal mag) I didn’t add this the last two feedings But everything else I add together ALONG with some worm castings.

 

[Grownsince95]

You are growing in a shed, you said it, dirty tools. He is growing indoors, with no contact with any outdoors plants. I already suspected it wasnt septoria, that made it more clear, am I 100% sure? Never, how could I be? Many problems at first look the same but its 4 people counting me that think its not septoria. Could we all be wrong and you might be right? Yes, he needs to check with a microscope to make sure, thats the good suggestion I was talking about, but look what he is feeding... no way the plants are gonna be healthy that way. Still think is not septoria but I dont think Im always right.

Understanding the difference between mobile and immobile nutrients will go a long way in helping you help other people.

When you see Ca issues on an older leaf the problem happened when the leaf was built. There's nothing you can do about it now. It happens a lot in early flower during the stretch and you don't see the deficiency until the leaf gets older and the weaker cell walls degrade. Ca is the mortar that holds the bricks together. Once it's put there it's done.

So now you're gonna have the op chase a Ca issue that's not there anymore? And start fucking with feeding in the middle of the most important time of growth?

Good luck and keep us posted!

 

[Eledin]

Understanding the difference between mobile and immobile nutrients will go a long way in helping you help other people.

When you see Ca issues on an older leaf the problem happened when the leaf was built. There's nothing you can do about it now. It happens a lot in early flower during the stretch and you don't see the deficiency until the leaf gets older and the weaker cell walls degrade. Ca is the mortar that holds the bricks together. Once it's put there it's done.

So now you're gonna have the op chase a Ca issue that's not there anymore? And start fucking with feeding in the middle of the most important time of growth?

Good luck and keep us posted!

How is telling him that he is using only 1 part with 0 nitrogen out of a tripart gonna be bad? Specially when nitrogen plays a crucial role in calcium absorption. If older leaves are showing it and it had cal deficiency at some point, who says it wont happen again? Should I tell him yeah, keep feeding only the bloom part out of a tripart, thats gonna help you a ton... youre starting to annoy me. Im gonna ignore you, you think you know but you dont.
He just recently changed the feeding, are you even reading the post or you just want to be annoying?