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[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

I've did it both ways let em get established in flower n flip em to 12/12 the bugs get bigger and denser on 12/12 and it's way less stress on the autos autos do t like as much light as people think when they flower em on 18-20 hours they get big fluffy as nugs that have no weight

well, the plants WANT intense light in flower, what they DONT want is high duration intense light. Just because they can flower at 18/6 at 500ppfd doesnt mean they wont flower better switched to 12/12 and 800-1000 ppfd halfway through budding

They are recieving the same amount of light energy either way actually. What changes is intensity and dureation both, but in a balanced way.

Thats why i have people growing autos bump the light up at least 30% more intense when they make the transition. If you dont do that, your results will be WORSE on 12/12 then 18/6... For every 2 hours you pull off that dial, you can increase ppfd intensity by about 10%. With resinous sativas even more. Banjo can take 1800 ppfd in flower if temps are managed.

And thats the key detail people miss here

Auto growers, seriously, take note of this discussion. This is genuinely "take your grow game to the next level" shit for an auto grower.

@capone304 you and i should make a dedicated thread about this soon.

 

[SunshineSupergirl]

This is 100% correct I flower my autos with my photos on 12/12 and Ive grown two of the biggest frostiest autos the genetics companies have seen and not small companies either both of them have used my pictures on sales pages u can go check em out strawberry gorilla 420 fast buds it also won may picture of the month here on this site and gorilla pie smoking monkey genetics he is absolutely correct what he's saying here

WOW

 

[SunshineSupergirl]

well, the plants WANT intense light in flower, what they DONT want is high duration intense light. Just because they can flower at 18/6 at 500ppfd doesnt mean they wont flower better switched to 12/12 and 800-1000 ppfd halfway through budding

They are recieving the same amount of light energy either way actually. What changes is intensity and dureation both, but in a balanced way.

Thats why i have people growing autos bump the light up at least 30% more intense when they make the transition. If you dont do that, your results will be WORSE on 12/12 then 18/6... For every 2 hours you pull off that dial, you can increase ppfd intensity by about 10%. With resinous sativas even more. Banjo can take 1800 ppfd in flower if temps are managed.

And thats the key detail people miss here

Auto growers, seriously, take note of this discussion. This is genuinely "take your grow game to the next level" shit for an auto grower.

@capone304 you and i should make a dedicated thread about this soon.

I would join that thread.

 

[smoker0420]

My seedlings run 18/6 or for this run last one did 24/7 for first 2 weeks.. Also run 2 hrs a night FR and UV by them selves it helps root balls and strengthen the stalk and limbs..

 

[capone304]

If u get a chance I highly recommend growing crapple by dirty bird genetics

 

[capone304]

well, the plants WANT intense light in flower, what they DONT want is high duration intense light. Just because they can flower at 18/6 at 500ppfd doesnt mean they wont flower better switched to 12/12 and 800-1000 ppfd halfway through budding

They are recieving the same amount of light energy either way actually. What changes is intensity and dureation both, but in a balanced way.

Thats why i have people growing autos bump the light up at least 30% more intense when they make the transition. If you dont do that, your results will be WORSE on 12/12 then 18/6... For every 2 hours you pull off that dial, you can increase ppfd intensity by about 10%. With resinous sativas even more. Banjo can take 1800 ppfd in flower if temps are managed.

And thats the key detail people miss here

Auto growers, seriously, take note of this discussion. This is genuinely "take your grow game to the next level" shit for an auto grower.

@capone304 you and i should make a dedicated thread about this soon.

I 100% agree with this statement I actually have 5 autos that r getting ready to go in mine and Sashas tent we could do a diary of them and show em exactly what we are talking about 5 different strains by 2 genetics companies mix pack auto 420 fast buds x3 banana purple punch and double gorilla by smoking monkey

 

[SunshineSupergirl]

If u get a chance I highly recommend growing crapple by dirty bird genetics

What's Dirty Bird Genetics ?

 

[SunshineSupergirl]

I 100% agree with this statement I actually have 5 autos that r getting ready to go in mine and Sashas tent we could do a diary of them and show em exactly what we are talking about 5 different strains by 2 genetics companies mix pack auto 420 fast buds x3 banana purple punch and double gorilla by smoking monkey

I just switched Susie to 12/12 then for her last 2-3 weeks.

 

[Grownsince95]

I just switched Susie to 12/12 then for her last 2-3 weeks.

If you want to hit autos with intense light minus the fatigue run them 9/3. You still get 18 hrs a day and the extra dark periods give the plant a break and create a great circadian rhythm.

 

[SunshineSupergirl]

If you want to hit autos with intense light minus the fatigue run them 9/3. You still get 18 hrs a day and the extra dark periods give the plant a break and create a great circadian rhythm.

I don't think that'll work for me.
The lights are next to my bed, I still want them off while I sleep.

Was planning on adding more aluminum autoshade panels, for reflectivity next grow, try to make it darker, so it won't disturb my sleep but I can still see in, which I like, at least some visibility, I'll find a balance

 

[DanielWesterfield]

Some love for a very Thai dominant haymeadow purps pheno.

Yerp.... She's a keeper!

Smell is burnt rubber, citrus, and sour.

I will absolutely be running back crosses on this pheno to stabilize some thai-meadow Purps seed to share if she even smokes half as good as she looks or smells.

Week 5 of 12/12

Yes please!

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

If you want to hit autos with intense light minus the fatigue run them 9/3. You still get 18 hrs a day and the extra dark periods give the plant a break and create a great circadian rhythm.

she wants to run autos and photos in the same space, i was telling her how to do that and that it would turn a better result than 18/6 anyway.

On a side note, I would be genuinely willing to bet (a little) money finishing them 12/12 will out perform any other set/non transitioning schedule you can put them under. That would probably still out perform a straight 18/6 though.

like friendly wager style. if im ever in a position to do that at the same time you are anyway lmfao. Ill totally put a bet on mother nature's circadian rhythm.

 

[HerbalEdu]

QUESTION.

HOW CAN I GROW AUTOFLOWERS AND PHOTOPERIODS TOGETHER?

don't overthink it ...

i have had photoperiods and automatics mixed many time in my tent.

just apply the photoperiods light schedule to autos ...

autos grow just fine once the photo are switched to 12/12 what's important at the end of the day is DLI.

(In short, the DLI is a measure of usable light your plant receives over a day. Ultimately, supplying adequate light intensity and duration, so you just apply higher intensity to shorter periods of exposition to light to reach the same DLI with 12/12 than 18/6)

 

[SunshineSupergirl]

don't overthink it ...

i have had photoperiods and automatics mixed many time in my tent.

just apply the photoperiods light schedule to autos ...

autos grow just fine once the photo are switched to 12/12 what's important at the end of the day is DLI.

(In short, the DLI is a measure of usable light your plant receives over a day. Ultimately, supplying adequate light intensity and duration, so you just apply higher intensity to shorter periods of exposition to light to reach the same DLI with 12/12 than 18/6)

Well the auto's usually Flower faster than Photoperiods right?
I still want to maximize my vegetative state for the photos.

 

[HerbalEdu]

Well the auto's usually Flower faster than Photoperiods right?
I still want to maximize my vegetative state for the photos.

as said don't bother about the autos just give them the same light schedule as photo.

and yeah auto will probably start flowering and finish before the photo depending when you switch from veg to 12/12

 

[Florida_Mike]

Well the auto's usually Flower faster than Photoperiods right?
I still want to maximize my vegetative state for the photos.

You're still overthinking it. Just keep to your reg light cycle & veg as long or short as you want, the worst that'll happen is you may have to harvest the autos sooner than the regs.

edit to add: sorry @HerbalEdu I was typing at same time only much slower, not trying to copy you, lmao

 

[JIMKSI64]

Gmorning Farm from the Waffle House.
More people in today to f**k up my house. Going to stay in my grow room.
Up this am to fix a humidity warning. Overflow from feed on trays raised to over 55%. So up at 3 to clean

 

[Deadstill]

Gmorning Farm from the Waffle House.
More people in today to f**k up my house. Going to stay in my grow room.
Up this am to fix a humidity warning. Overflow from feed on trays raised to over 55%. So up at 3 to clean

I know all about that! Our company leaves on the 21st it will be nice when things settle down. I'm the same way I'll go hide in my locked grow room or my lava lamp lab But, I'm pretty anti-social so there's that

 

[Gmix]

Boy, did I need that?

The crap I had been trying
Made me lose my voice with the bloody fungi,aphid poop and all that other stuff.

Most managed to secure 16 ounces from somebody else that grows organically and I trust to have good stuff because i seen his grow & have always had good stuff from in the past when I wrapped it, take my tent down because of electrical checks and whatever else the council decided they wanted to do.

I’m gonna jar up some and put it to the side in case it ever happens again.

I feel like a new bloody man

Getting high as a kite and liking it like wow we won’t say the other word, but you know the rhyme ha ha

 

[smoker0420]

Boy, did I need that?

The crap I had been trying
Made me lose my voice with the bloody fungi,aphid poop and all that other stuff.

Most managed to secure 16 ounces from somebody else that grows organically and I trust to have good stuff because i seen his grow & have always had good stuff from in the past when I wrapped it, take my tent down because of electrical checks and whatever else the council decided they wanted to do.

I’m gonna jar up some and put it to the side in case it ever happens again.

I feel like a new bloody man

Getting high as a kite and liking it like wow we won’t say the other word, but you know the rhyme ha ha

Love to grow but love to BBQ as much as watching my plants