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Hey FloridaMike, 4 plants in total. I have 1 more, small one yet and I think I'm going to chop tomorrow. We're getting rain, then cool temps for the duration. Bud rot season.
Outdoor plants fuck with my risk reward system. Too unpredictable. Too many bugs. Unpredictable light. It just goes on and on that my paranoia goes in this spiral where it says you're lucky if you produce an ounce out of an acre and you'll break your back the whole time.

So I have great respect for the people who just can roll the dice on God. And work their asses off as they do it.

That's all. I'm not allowed to do it outside because of the legality of my state, so it's probably good that I don't have that as an option.
 
Chef's cut

When you grow cannabis, it goes through various phases and these phases look bad, but they're the best thing in the world.

The inside of a bud rarely gets exposed to light. Simple enough. It's the inside. When you turn it inside out there is apparent growth that was never obvious before. We see it on the edges when we look at growth but we don't actually see what's going on.

I would notice them in weed I smoke but I always thought they were half of a seed shell. I'd look for the damn seed that I expected to find in the weed but there were no seeds. Where the hell did this little half shell come from? Now I know.

Turn the bud inside out and you can see them manufactured and you can visualize the hostile environment.

Tips lead to tan/yellow semicircular clusters. Sure, you see these occasionally when you look at the buds but you don't actually see what happens when they continuously grow. They are almost always compressed by the shoot next to it and 99% of it dies inside when the bud grows.

When it is open to the light, it goes through an obvious progression.

You see a tan / yellow semicircle which can be surrounded by a few or many. Every single one of these tan semicircles is a semi hard shell like a seed shell, except it contains the cluster of green growth about to push through that will become the next flower shoot or face.

These semicircles have no chlorophyll but are filled with trichones. They are the perfect smoke. Smallest amount of plant material combined with the densest amount of tricones. Not quite hashish but damn close.

That's why I always thought of hashish as being yellow because yellow Lebanese hash is essentially this stuff beaten and gathered off the walls after it's stuck. Oh, the old days of Lebanese hash. Moving on.

We never see large clusters of these because we're looking at the green leaves on the outside. We see bits and pieces of these as they poke through the edges of the buds growing.

With all that babble in mind now, look at this picture.

You see a sea of white/ tan/yellow. This is the best sight in the world. Every single one of those spots will be turning into green growth. Every single one of those spots will fall off and I will gather them in plastic underneath and I will enjoy the hell out of the
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Morning wake up routine. Still setting up the lights after adding in the rails. Got a single side of red and UVB going so far. Two more sides to go.
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Don’t worry C purr as soon as bow hunting opens Oct 1st it’ll get back up into the high 70’s or even 80’s !!! 😂😂
 
How much longer till this plant is done?
Crap shoot. I think I can grow it forever if it doesn't get moldy. I should start harvesting individual branches.

I know. I should start picking off individual buds to thin it out to give the other buds more room to grow.

Seriously, I have no idea how long it's going to keep growing like this and I shake off a few grams of hashish and about half an ounce of those bud capsule edges everyday.

I am continuously harvesting.

I truly reveal hundreds of brand new full buds every time I sit in the plant for more than 3 minutes. It's just a matter of giving them space to grow and they grow. Those ends of the branches are multiplying like crazy if I simply put my hands in them and spread them out.

It's like origami. It's the tightest weirdest thing. I stick my fingers in there in this tiny little area and stuff's been compressed underneath and I start unfolding and unfolding and there's more and more. And each time I unfold something. It releases something that had been caught next door. So the one next door gets bigger and bigger. There is no end to the unfolding, there's always more. It's a matter of hitting maximum available face. Those stems can only allow them to go a certain distance each time I do this and they get a little more wiggly and a little more distant.

Try to imagine the decision that I make. I simply don't want to touch the plant anymore yet. I could have hundreds of times more buds. If I simply spend more time on those edges. Screw it. I'm done. They never end.

This is the goose. It is laying golden eggs everyday. The only reason to kill it is if it gets moldy or if I just get so goddamn tired of the responsibility. It's a responsibility.

I just put the winch in. Combination of random pieces of wood and hot glue. And T25 torx screws. I love shaping things around things with hot glue. No clamping things in place and fiddling with straight edges. Just slap things in place and hot. Glue them. Then screw them in for a perfect fit for anything you're trying to hold.

I have wire wheel on my angle grinder that I walk around the room with and I just scrape the rough edges off the random wood I've tacked together. Then I hit it with a medieval two-handed sanding belt, kind of like a tree saw for two people, but I use this too sand the underside of doors and other things that I want to wrap around.

No rough edges. No hard 90° edges on anything I could be leaning against. No splinters.

I can jump up and down on that thing and it will not flex.
 

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Done

While I said I have no idea if it'll ever be done, I do expect it to go hermi sooner or later. I'd be happy with a couple pounds of seeds. Sprinkle them in the forest.

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My next lesson from my high perch

Be lazy.

It's all the setup for the next tidbit. Just go down to the bottom of the post if you want it. I'll be very clear at the bottom.

This is a ramble. Darkness. Tea time of the soul. Or at least you're going to think it is. There might be some points in there. It might be entertaining, I hope so. Here we go.

I don't know if there are any programmers out there reading this, but I'm an old Perl programmer. I coded in C and shell script and awk and tr and sed and blah blah blah blah blah for 10 years before I learned Perl. So I had a hell of a foundation. Then I coded in Perl for 20 years.

Sure I could fall into other things but it was just stupid. Once I learned Perl I was broken. I could not look at any other tool without going my God I could do that so much better in Perl.

Before Perl there was the standard Unix tool set. It was awesome. That shit was complex and fun. So many goddamn different tools thrown together with so many unique abilities. They were wonderful individually and you could chain and gather God damn it was amazing what you could do with them.

That was the Unix philosophy. Create individual tools that accept text and spit out text and in between do anything you want with it. Give it lots of command line argument possibilities to alter its behavior. Chain these tools together in a pipeline to produce your final output. Each individual tool should be as focused as possible to accomplish the task. Always code for the principle of least surprise. The tools will surprise you, go for the least surprise.

The Unix philosophy is embedded in my brain and I consider myself a tool using monkey. I build my own tools as I go. Whether it be digital or in the physical world, I try to maintain that attitude.

But that wasn't good enough for Larry Wall. He said fuck this shit and he threw them all together in a single language called Perl. Because while Larry Wall was a system administrator for NASA, a highly technical job, Yes, he can claim to be a rocket scientist, his actual background was in linguistics. He knew a variety of languages and that was his attitude. Throw that shit together.

Pathologically eclectic rubbish Lister. Practical extraction report language. Take your pick. It grew from there. It is a bastardization of many thoughts and tools and it breaks people. I love that language.

Once I learned Perl I got a 10 to 1 productivity boost on my standard tool set which was already 10 times better than the next thing I ever saw. In a world of competition of who can accomplish stuff in their job, I was a hundred times better than the standard non-expert programmer and 10 times better than the expert programmer that did not know Perl.

So yeah, I had an attitude.

But most people hated Perl and could not code in Perl and Perl was not designed, Perl was evolved. So there were stupid endpoints of how it evolved that could bite you in the ass if you didn't know.

If you came from the Unix tool set, you loved it. If you came from any other language you hated it. But those that knew it could earn double that those that didn't so those that didn't would lie.

I used to hang out at user groups and college lecture halls and any place where techies gathered. I had to go recruit people for my development group. I was the creepy guy who didn't belong because I was watching the people, not the instructor.

I couldn't find people I considered capable. I reviewed thousands of resumes and telephone screened hundreds of people and face-to-face interviewed dozens of people. I had a rotating cast of about 10 people who worked for me. I trained them for a few years and then they'd go on to their next job because they got a hell of a pay boost.

They typically started with a masters in Comp-Sci. But one of my best had a masters in English. I didn't care about the degree at all, I had none, but that's the group of people applying for this type of position. They started high under me (I was competing with other employers) but then they skyrocketed.

That's why they worked for me. To learn. And to be entertained. I was the culture. And I'm a lazy mother fucker.

I tech screened and checked for people lying to me. Everybody lies on their resume and I said that's okay. Now knock stuff off your resume you don't want me to ask about. Just don't lie to me face to face. I loved it when people would scratch out 3/4 of their resume. Then I did a deep dive.

I had the simplest, easiest task. Sort a tiny bit of data, break out a few fields, identify duplicates, spit out uniques. It can be done in one line. It can be done in five lines. It can be done in 20 lines or it could be done in 10 fucking pages of crap.

I can do it in about five lines. The Perl gods can do it in a single line. An acceptable programmer will do it in 10 to 20 lines.

90% of the programmers went for that 10 pages of fucking crap. And that was after I tech proofed them on the phone and I flew them in for a face-to-face. Until someone actually codes for you in front of you, you have no idea how bad they are. Those $100,000 programmers? They're worth less than shit because you'll spend the rest of your life fixing their mistakes.

Okay with that. Techie ramble out of the way I've set the stage.

The reason the light schedule is different from anybody else's light schedule is because I'm lazy. Larry Wall's primary lesson, and I bought all the books he's written and I carried them around and I studied them like Bibles, truly, I said here's my Bible, the lesson I learned was to be lazy. Find the easiest, simplest way to do something. Simplify simplify simplify. And then let the tool do it again and again. Avoid manual processes.

I had a second Bible. Jorge Cervantes how to grow weed book. I covered it in black duct tape and I told people I did it simply as a book cover. I was always carrying a couple of books around with me and I always have my Perl books and I always had my Cervantes. I studied that as well.

Try to imagine me coding in my glass enclosed perch over the Bank of America stock exchange floor. Hundreds, maybe thousands of cubicles in view. I'm a few stories up looking down at a vast open area. Insane loudness and activity. And I'm in my glass enclosed box and I've got 20 minutes to kill because I've just issued a command that's going to run through every server on the Eastern seaboard. So I kick back and I read my weed book.

I had a manual process each night which included me closing curtains. Keep that 12/12. But my schedule is not matching the plants and I sleep 4 hours here and 4 hours there. And the bottom line was it was really light out and the sun was setting until 9:30 and I was just asleep from 4:00 so the curtains didn't get closed.

Oh no, did I do something bad? Oh fuck it, I got plenty of weed. Let's see what happens with this. Let's maintain this schedule from true darkness which is 10:00 at night to when I'm awake and want to see those plants which is 3:30 in the morning. Man, that's reckless. I shouldn't do that. Fuck it, do it anyway.

This is what happens. Infinite weed from laziness and recklessness.

Thank you, Larry. Annoying lesson from on high over.

Take care
 
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Okay, so why am I restraining myself? It's 1:00 in the morning and I want to get some shit done in the room but that's the dark.

Screw that. There will be no concept of dark period.

I will turn off the white lights around 10:00 but the red and the UVB will be on 24/7. Simple as that. And I will just turn the lights on whenever I walk in the room. And they're going to be bright goddamn lights. I'm going to use the plant lights as my work lights. Not all of them at any given moment, but I simply won't care.

Who cares what it does? There's enough weed and growth not to care. What happens next?

Now I have to think in terms of the constant airflow. I have to have it at all directions into those dense clusters. I have to be able to reach over and rip them apart but they always have to have air flow from multiple directions. I will pipe in 6-in tubes. I had got plenty of duct fans.

Now that it's in the pool I can spin it. So I no longer have to set up any reach in space anywhere other than one spot and I can make it very comfy. Maybe I'll stop whining as much.

So all of a sudden that room becomes a real kitchen to be used at any time once I've actually cleaned it up and I can move on with other stuff.

And winter is coming. I'm not going to heat the room. I'm going to let that plant get cold. When it gets to the '40s, I'll close the window. If it gets to the 30s I might pop a little heater in there.

And at this point I've justified a bit of pretty woodwork. I have to construct a light shield because anyone walking in the room will be blasted by the UVB and I want it to be pretty at that point so the railings will be stained and routed etc. Then I'll be able to mount something around to block the light without it being too ugly and it becomes a real space.
 
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Luna loves his new jungle gym. He gets to jump and explore from above and no longer gets blasted by the light. He wants the light but he wants it when he wants it where he wants it and now he has it.

This is the cat's world. I just rent space in it. I work for him.

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The new nighty night. I've earned some kickback time. Those white lights are not on. They're simply being illuminated and glowing from the UVB

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Break time means review pictures on the TV.

Holy shit that air flow sucks. Treated like a computer room. I can climb around that cage. I can have absolute exhaust from above. Box fans. Box fans everywhere above. Exhausting it.

Then I don't like those lights behind the pool. I want at least two of them inside it. Yep, they fit. Great.

Plus I have to blow air into it going downward since it's an air block, fine. I'll have a circle of lower fans aiming down there.

Check out the UVB red combined picture. New leaves and edge leaves are red. Everything else glowing from underneath is trichones.
 

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For the price of what you've bought you could have had a decent tent, one good spec dimmable led light and something like a basic mars hydro/AC infinity adjustable speed extractor system with carbon filter.

I'm going to say your setup is a total fire hazard and your going to assure me it's not and your an expert there so that conversation is over with.

Can we get some seedlings started and call it an experiment to grow like the rest of us next maybe? 🤔
 


Combined with one of your lights which you can upgrade at a later date.
 
You don't really understand fun, do you?

Moving along.

I just realized there's got to be tremendous down sampling for the pictures I upload. They look much better locally.

And no, I will not do what you suggest. Read the full thread and understand my goals or simply enjoy the pics or be annoyed by them. Hell keep posting here if you want to. But no, I will not do that.
 
You don't really understand fun, do you?

Moving along.

I just realized there's got to be tremendous down sampling for the pictures I upload. They look much better locally.

And no, I will not do what you suggest. Read the full thread and understand my goals or simply enjoy the pics or be annoyed by them. Hell keep posting here if you want to. But no, I will not do that.
But we defined your goal, heat light and wind death the low amount of trichs and excessive foxtailing is well documented before and not disputed by anyone except unfortunately you.

Just a shame you can't do a side by side since you claim to be so scientific and doing this for some validation of some method...
 


Combined with one of your lights which you can upgrade at a later date.
And I have more tents than you can possibly imagine. I repurposed them.

And I got sheds. And I got electricity to all of them. And I've got various levels of insulation. And a few tools too.

Lots of plants from lots of different seeds doing lots of stuff. I'm only posting what I consider of value concerning this plant.

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You may want to rethink what you think. I can present many ways.

And my electrical was installed by a real electrician and he reviews what I do here.

Next
 
So if I post pictures of foxtailed buds similar to yours then what are you trying to inform us of we don't already know of and probably had at one point or another when we accidently stressed our plants.
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All been done before and concluded with it not being desirable.

Then along comes you to tell us something we already know and documented a thousand times over, saying we don't know.
 

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But we defined your goal, heat light and wind death the low amount of trichs and excessive foxtailing is well documented before and not disputed by anyone except unfortunately you.

Just a shame you can't do a side by side since you claim to be so scientific and doing this for some validation of some method...
My goal is to allow local medical pain patients to grow enough weed to extract to create high strength oil. Everything else is secondary to that goal.

My next goal would be to annoy people who are experts in a field. Damn that's the best.

That means I'm on to something that is threatening to whatever the current order is. If that order includes people profiting on people in pain then I'm good with that.

So go ahead and post some more. Eyeballs are always good.
 
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