seeds will be illegal now what?

[Fishwater23]

It's a pity, because otherwise you could protect yourself from suspicious laws. Don't you think that this law was invented by cannabis seed producers?

why would seed producers want to make their products illegal so they can't sell them online all across the world won't they go out of business if it is illegal to ship the seeds

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

Imo medical has no better claim then a guy looking for a buzz.
It is always and will always be about control.
And money is control.
Sigh..........
So enough of that. Who wants to sign a petition to get cannabis into the seed vaults !

Who wants to sign a petition to HANG THESE MF'ers? Asking for all of us

 

[ForestSpirit]

why would seed producers want to make their products illegal so they can't sell them online all across the world won't they go out of business if it is illegal to ship the seeds

I think it's because 99% of the varieties don't meet agricultural or medical purposes. I think I would support such a law.Although I wouldn't ban approved varieties, I would control the distribution of seeds. Absolutely. I've personally encountered varieties that are disgusting and most of them

 

[stanknkatz]

Same way we used to.

This. Won't be stopping a thing. Inconvenient, but workable.

 

[Kebz]

Seeds can be produced. Maybe we stop buying feminised seeds for convenience? Go back to regs and make our own seeds?

Been doing this for years.

Seeds used to be 20bucks. Now? Its no longer viable to pay somone astrological amounts simply because yhey have rehashed, and rebranded a strain. Cookies crosses to cookie crosses.

@ForestSpirit, you might be into something! Genetics have been watered down in pursuit of cashing in on the name and market power of popular strains. Not for the development of better genetics. Most strains are F1 and untested and not beyond d the making of most home growers.

 

[ForestSpirit]

Seeds can be produced. Maybe we stop buying feminised seeds for convenience? Go back to regs and make our own seeds?

Been doing this for years.

Seeds used to be 20bucks. Now? Its no longer viable to pay somone astrological amounts simply because yhey have rehashed, and rebranded a strain. Cookies crosses to cookie crosses.

@ForestSpirit, you might be into something! Genetics have been watered down in pursuit of cashing in on the name and market power of popular strains. Not for the development of better genetics. Most strains are F1 and untested and not beyond d the making of most home growers.

As far as I understand, we can make female seeds without any complicated manipulations. You know, I think I've found something, but it needs proof, and I'd rather wait for the next generation than keep saying it's so amazing that I can't find the words.From a biological point of view, it is enough to perform a separation, demonstrate it, and then combine it again. This is proof of stable genetics and dominant alleles. It is a pure line. As a result of the separation, both monoecious and dioecious plants are produced. Let's wait, as there is no other way to verify this.

 

[Ninjadogma]

Imo medical has no better claim then a guy looking for a buzz.
It is always and will always be about control.
And money is control.
Sigh..........
So enough of that. Who wants to sign a petition to get cannabis into the seed vaults !

States are loosening their restrictions on cannabis and moving to a regulated and taxed model, while feds are clamping down.... Congress needs to get a hint and defer to the 10th Amendment.

 

[Cloud9ine]

I acquired years of seeds Afghani, mauie wowie, Mexican , Jamaican Colombian. back then one ounce of Mexican or Colombian would give you enough seeds forever ,(and we just threw them away after rolling them off your record album).
I have years of different origins and are originals not crazy name like strawberry cough and pineapple express.
I'll be willing to part with many of them because it comes a time when i notice I can't grow all of my collection and other people should experience some of the original strains that you don't get today . If interested Message me I'll let them go cheap.
-Mexican
-Colombian
-Jamaican
-Afghan
-Mauie wowie
-Panama red
Oxwha

 

[Cloud9ine]

I acquired years of seeds Afghani, mauie wowie, Mexican , Jamaican Colombian. back then one ounce of Mexican or Colombian would give you enough seeds forever ,(and we just threw them away after rolling them off your record album).
I have years of different origins and are originals not crazy name like strawberry cough and pineapple express.
I'll be willing to part with many of them because it comes a time when i notice I can't grow all of my collection and other people should experience some of the original strains that you don't get today . If interested Message me I'll let them go cheap.
-Mexican
-Colombian
-Jamaican
-Afghan
-Mauie wowie
-Panama red
Oxwha

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I acquired years of seeds Afghani, mauie wowie, Mexican , Jamaican Colombian. back then one ounce of Mexican or Colombian would give you enough seeds forever ,(and we just threw them away after rolling them off your record album).
I have years of different origins and are originals not crazy name like strawberry cough and pineapple express.
I'll be willing to part with many of them because it comes a time when i notice I can't grow all of my collection and other people should experience some of the original strains that you don't get today . If interested Message me I'll let them go cheap.
-Mexican
-Colombian
-Jamaican
-Afghan
-Mauie wowie
-Panama red
Oxwha

-Oaxaca

 

[Zzzax]

I write my representatives every month.
Just find your, go to their page(s) and write them.
I just copy and past the same message.

As for seeds: I have a cross of a "Power" Haze Nevile gifted me in Amsterdam in 2010 with Greenhouse's "The Doctor (original genetics not remake). They are regulars. They are F2. I made them myself.
It is called Skunky Fruit here is the link
I would think these are worth $1k for 50.
Get them while I am willing.

 

[orggrwr]

It's my understanding that seeds will not be affected by the new laws. Even if they are fuckem, stealth shipping works most of the time.

 

[Zzzax]

That is Clones are not effected when the laws change. Seeds are Illegal under the new laws.

And did you all see that Hemp is no defense in Federal Court. That just happened!

So soon, if LEO pulls you over and they find one Seed in the vehicle they can "Arrest Your Vehicle" on the suspicion that the vehicle may have committed a crime or might commit a crime in the future.

Yeah Thanks Mitch McConnell.

 

[JIMKSI64]

That is Clones are not effected when the laws change. Seeds are Illegal under the new laws.

And did you all see that Hemp is no defense in Federal Court. That just happened!

So soon, if LEO pulls you over and they find one Seed in the vehicle they can "Arrest Your Vehicle" on the suspicion that the vehicle may have committed a crime or might commit a crime in the future.

Yeah Thanks Mitch McConnell.

2019 was a great year for the Governments stealing money.
That was the first year that property forfeit actions without filing criminal actions surpassed all theft from bank and retail robbery and theft.
Let that sink in. The government took more money from the population than criminals did.

 

[grayoldnproud]

That is Clones are not effected when the laws change. Seeds are Illegal under the new laws.

And did you all see that Hemp is no defense in Federal Court. That just happened!

My understanding is only those seeds coming from a mature plant with more than .03% THC. It wouldn't affect CBD seeds.

"Exclusion C states that seeds will no longer be defined as hemp if the plant the seeds came from contains more than 0.3% THC on a dry weight basis." https://www.northatlanticseed.com/b..., our government,impact both seeds and clones.

And more practically, since that's my nature, how are they to know what plant the seed came from? Even if they were to devise some genetic test it would be very very difficult to differentiate the mother plant from a hemp plant by testing the phylogeny of the seed.

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

My thinking is that legal states might not be affected, except perhaps when sending seeds using the Postal Service. My state, for example, legalized in 2012, which was six years before the Agriculture Improvement Act of 2018 (2018 farm bill) set the 0.3% rule. So, I don't see how the new law would change sales in legal states, unless the current administration decides to make unnecessary trouble for us. Otherwise, there's likely to be significant pushback against this recent change that could lead to broader legalization than we have now.

 

[Zzzax]

My thinking is that legal states might not be affected, except perhaps when sending seeds using the Postal Service. My state, for example, legalized in 2012, which was six years before the Agriculture Improvement Act of 2018 (2018 farm bill) set the 0.3% rule. So, I don't see how the new law would change sales in legal states, unless the current administration decides to make unnecessary trouble for us. Otherwise, there's likely to be significant pushback against this recent change that could lead to broader legalization than we have now.

Well, what is and has been true?
What does even Rand Paul not get onboard with?
That's right Cannabis Freedom for Mom and Pop.
It seems to me that the whole WTF is about how to divide up the commercial aspect while keeping the people in cannabis-chains.

You know.. How is it to be valuable in a store if any one can grow it.

The crop in question is not the green of the leaves it is the green of the money.

Now back towards topic of seeds.

What makes a person think seeds will get cheaper?
That people have inventory?
Inventory is cash in the bank--The Seed bank.

The prices are going up and up! Buy now or regret it later!

I know that my side-hustle seed stuff is now going to be a crime hence the $1K for 50.
Heck sell some clones and make that back.
Funny in Illinois Medical I can have as many clones as I want if they are under 5 inches. Oh oh loop Hole...
So yes we will find a way. Remember it was once a crime to not grow Cannabis in the colonies. Tobacco was the profitable crop back then.

p.S. remember if asked you have 5th amendment rights against self incrimination.

If Asked if those seeds make an illegal plant keep your mouth shut. Let them grow it out and see WTF.
I'm smoking Skunky Fruit so I had GPT double check.

The Fifth Amendment protects against self-incrimination.​

In U.S. law, the Fifth Amendment includes:

“No person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself.”​

 

[Zzzax]

Well, what is and has been true?
What does even Rand Paul not get onboard with?
That's right Cannabis Freedom for Mom and Pop.
It seems to me that the whole WTF is about how to divide up the commercial aspect while keeping the people in cannabis-chains.

You know.. How is it to be valuable in a store if any one can grow it.

The crop in question is not the green of the leaves it is the green of the money.

Now back towards topic of seeds.

What makes a person think seeds will get cheaper?
That people have inventory?
Inventory is cash in the bank--The Seed bank.

The prices are going up and up! Buy now or regret it later!

I know that my side-hustle seed stuff is now going to be a crime hence the $1K for 50.
Heck sell some clones and make that back.
Funny in Illinois Medical I can have as many clones as I want if they are under 5 inches. Oh oh loop Hole...
So yes we will find a way. Remember it was once a crime to not grow Cannabis in the colonies. Tobacco was the profitable crop back then.

p.S. remember if asked you have 5th amendment rights against self incrimination.

If Asked if those seeds make an illegal plant keep your mouth shut. Let them grow it out and see WTF.
I'm smoking Skunky Fruit so I had GPT double check.

The Fifth Amendment protects against self-incrimination.​

In U.S. law, the Fifth Amendment includes:

“No person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself.”​

I just tripped on a funny. "Taxation without Legalization."
That's a good one.. Time for another toke.

 

[orggrwr]

My understanding is only those seeds coming from a mature plant with more than .03% THC. It wouldn't affect CBD seeds.

"Exclusion C states that seeds will no longer be defined as hemp if the plant the seeds came from contains more than 0.3% THC on a dry weight basis." https://www.northatlanticseed.com/b..., our government,impact both seeds and clones.

And more practically, since that's my nature, how are they to know what plant the seed came from? Even if they were to devise some genetic test it would be very very difficult to differentiate the mother plant from a hemp plant by testing the phylogeny of the seed.

You hit the nail on the head there. I just read an article ( I'll try to find it and post a link) that said even though the law does mention seeds that will produce plants that are over .3% thc there is no way to tell unless you grow out the seed. The seed itself has no thc and there is no genetic test to tell what it will produce so the law will be unenforceable and the wording will probably be changed before the law is implemented. As far as I'm concerned there is nothing to worry about except seed company's trying to make a profit from the panic

 

[ForestSpirit]

You hit the nail on the head there. I just read an article ( I'll try to find it and post a link) that said even though the law does mention seeds that will produce plants that are over .3% thc there is no way to tell unless you grow out the seed. The seed itself has no thc and there is no genetic test to tell what it will produce so the law will be unenforceable and the wording will probably be changed before the law is implemented. As far as I'm concerned there is nothing to worry about except seed company's trying to make a profit from the panic

I don't understand the problem at all. Make good weed and no one will buy any seeds.The smartest thing I could think of. Because seeds do the same thing as weed. But seeds are mostly needed by people who sell weed. This means that it's profitable to sell seeds to people who make weed and not to ordinary people. Do this and let them pay only to you

 

[Zzzax]

You hit the nail on the head there. I just read an article ( I'll try to find it and post a link) that said even though the law does mention seeds that will produce plants that are over .3% thc there is no way to tell unless you grow out the seed. The seed itself has no thc and there is no genetic test to tell what it will produce so the law will be unenforceable and the wording will probably be changed before the law is implemented. As far as I'm concerned there is nothing to worry about except seed company's trying to make a profit from the panic

People have been worried since Timothy Leary won.

Leary v. United States, 395 U.S. 6 (1969), is a U.S. Supreme Court case dealing with the constitutionality of the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937. Timothy Leary, a professor and activist, was arrested for the possession of marijuana in violation of the Marihuana Tax Act.

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I'm old so it is my responsibility to present my experiences in this life as is any elder of the tribe.
The thing was you had to have a tax stamp to grow cannabis but to get that tax stamp you had to bring in said cannabis and when you did bring it in without a tax stamp you were guilty of a crime.
This is our original Martyr : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_R._Caldwell