Growing outdoors from seed in high desert Southern New Mexico

[Oldchucky]

14 1/2 hrs here and my temps are already in the 110's ... help me understand lol

This is Phoenix! Kind of assuming that is about the latitude you are on! Or close enough! The only number that counts is the total daylight! Even on the summer solstice, you don’t get 14 1/2 hours of total daylight! But actually as far as I know it is this consecutive hours of darkness that the plant reads and responds to! So at 13 1/2 hours of daylight, you have 10 1/2 hours of darkness! And a lot of times that’s not enough to keep a plant from flowering! That’s why people use supplemental lighting to shorten the hours of darkness and keep their shit in veg! This is just kind of a general rule of thumb! But if you’re a little 6 inch plant with four nodes starts flowering or nutting up in May or June you tend to start paying attention and not pushing your luck by putting them out early! I think prematurely flowering your plants is one of the biggest mistakes you can make! I know from experience! I was a dumb enough to do it twice!! Lol! The plants must sense twilight as darkness! And the atmospheric conditions have nothing to do with it! It’s strictly hours of daylight and hours of darkness or what is perceived as darkness!

 

[poozgrowz]

14 1/2 hrs here and my temps are already in the 110's ... help me understand lol

Eeeek I'm so stressed argh..
I didn't write this down right.. sorry. @Oldchucky
I meant to say:
When I've reached 14.5 hours of light it will be into the 110 temps.
This week we're in 88+ degree perfect weather minus the haze above.
So the point of my thinking in temps is... The plants I'm putting out in these temps now are getting them used to the high hell temps they have to look forward to.
Makes me wonder what % of Phoenix growers are outdoors.

 

[poozgrowz]

This is Phoenix! Kind of assuming that is about the latitude you are on! Or close enough! The only number that counts is the total daylight! Even on the summer solstice, you don’t get 14 1/2 hours of total daylight! But actually as far as I know it is this consecutive hours of darkness that the plant reads and responds to! So at 13 1/2 hours of daylight, you have 10 1/2 hours of darkness! And a lot of times that’s not enough to keep a plant from flowering! That’s why people use supplemental lighting to shorten the hours of darkness and keep their shit in veg! This is just kind of a general rule of thumb! But if you’re a little 6 inch plant with four nodes starts flowering or nutting up in May or June you tend to start paying attention and not pushing your luck by putting them out early! I think prematurely flowering your plants is one of the biggest mistakes you can make! I know from experience! I was a dumb enough to do it twice!! Lol! The plants must sense twilight as darkness! And the atmospheric conditions have nothing to do with it! It’s strictly hours of daylight and hours of darkness or what is perceived as darkness!View attachment 2629764

So, I should count these as a learning experience
of why not to start as early as
the volunteer plants that come up, in the ground on their own dime do. (Bad grammar!) LoL
I have a volunteer Baby Bok Choy that came up beside the raised bed, in the clay dirt...in early March.

So, I should pop some more seeds?
And start my medicine over?
I seriously wouldn't mind! Lmao

 

[poozgrowz]

I looked at my notes on this LSD plant & supposedly it likes it's fan leaves trimmed regularly. Did I take enough off?
I'm looking forward to a bag of leaves into a smoothie kinda high test. LoL

 

[Bigalmoby]

I looked at my notes on this LSD plant & supposedly it likes it's fan leaves trimmed regularly. Did I take enough off?
I'm looking forward to a bag of leaves into a smoothie kinda high test. LoL

I try to leave as much as you can on them it will help them grow leaves are solar panels for the plant plus it makes shade for the roots

 

[poozgrowz]

I try to leave as much as you can on them it will help them grow leaves are solar panels for the plant plus it makes shade for the roots

Ok, I won't trim any more rn. Thank you
Next x I'll ask first, LoL
This plant makes me happy growing it!

 

[Bigalmoby]

They are a blast to grow specially outdoor they get massive

 

[poozgrowz]

They are a blast to grow specially outdoor they get massive

LSD strain Get massive?
Or... Are you meaning outdoor in general?
HGC notes on their LSD say it's a 2 footer.
Sorry, not trying to be a pest

I gotta go .. Making pizza from scratch...lol. if I can not get distracted, It'll be on time for dinner! Better dig the dirt out from under my fingernails 1st.... hahaha my secret spice lmbo

 

[grayoldnproud]

I try to leave as much as you can on them it will help them grow leaves are solar panels for the plant plus it makes shade for the roots

Same, I'm not big on defoliating.

 

[Bigalmoby]

LSD strain Get massive?
Or... Are you meaning outdoor in general?
HGC notes on their LSD say it's a 2 footer.
Sorry, not trying to be a pest

I gotta go .. Making pizza from scratch...lol. if I can not get distracted, It'll be on time for dinner! Better dig the dirt out from under my fingernails 1st.... hahaha my secret spice lmbo

Outdoors in general

 

[Oldchucky]

So, I should count these as a learning experience
of why not to start as early as
the volunteer plants that come up, in the ground on their own dime do. (Bad grammar!) LoL
I have a volunteer Baby Bok Choy that came up beside the raised bed, in the clay dirt...in early March.

So, I should pop some more seeds?
And start my medicine over?
I seriously wouldn't mind! Lmao

Let it go and keep your fingers crossed! It might make it! You might be at 14 hours by the time it reaches sexual maturity! And some planted real early do all right! My volunteer last year didn’t have any problems and it started probably in March! Conversely, I started them in early April and 80% of them prematurely flowered! Just trying to give you an idea of the relationship of hours of daylight and darkness and photoperiod plants! You may not have any problems at all or you may have to learn about reveging pot plants!

 

[Bigalmoby]

Never again for me I learned last year had 4 started early and they reveged
The later ones no problem at all I leaned the hard way good thing I make hash

 

[poozgrowz]

Outdoors in general

Okay gotcha!
Last year, I had little plants & bigish buds.. this year I might have a couple big plants & little buds LoL

 

[poozgrowz]

Let it go and keep your fingers crossed! It might make it! You might be at 14 hours by the time it reaches sexual maturity! And some planted real early do all right! My volunteer last year didn’t have any problems and it started probably in March! Conversely, I started them in early April and 80% of them prematurely flowered! Just trying to give you an idea of the relationship of hours of daylight and darkness and photoperiod plants! You may not have any problems at all or you may have to learn about reveging pot plants!View attachment 2630047

Gosh yes! I appreciate your input! Man I'm excited to see what happens!
And...
If I get a whole bowl full of veg to go in a smoothie & see if I feel like that dude juicing a big mess of leaves did... Hahahaha it will be fine *wink*
Would be a fun chapter in a book for my 2nd great grand girl due the end of this month! Titled: "What your great Granny was doing the month you were born" ;-)
I screen shot'd your notes here and will handwrite them down. Lol for real!
I learn by writing things down.. Wonder what kind of learning disability I'd be diagnosed with hahaha :p

Here's my tallest plant so far... Pumpkin Spice ... I'd eat the leaves in a heart beat, if ...it wasn't bad for the girl

 

[poozgrowz]

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Never again for me I learned last year had 4 started early and they reveged
The later ones no problem at all I leaned the hard way good thing I make hash

Wish I had some haha!!! Last time I had hash, my girlfriend mailed it to me from Marina, Calif. All the way to a po-dunk town outside Austin. I think that was 1980. It was so good, lol! You should see my eyes when I watch you dudes Rollin them balls around! O that could be taken oddly wrong haha

 

[poozgrowz]

Purple Berry Muffinz... Do you think she'll make it? It's the helmet head one.

I'm done soaking seed for this run.
So it's the last...
'cept... maybe ... An auto or 2. LoL

 

[poozgrowz]

Question (s): this is my #2 Purple Haze
It's a month old.
I started it cos I didn't think the 1st one was gonna make it... okay sooo

It's leaves are getting pale. Should I give it some very diluted compost tea?
1/20 dilution would be ok to spray it with?
Or stronger?

I'm also thinking of putting it into a 1 gal container today, until it's ready to go into it's 10 gal final home. Do I even need to up-pot or just get the 10 gal bag's soil ready to plant in a day or 2?
Thankful for All you knowledgeable, experienced farmers

 

[defective]

Question (s): this is my #2 Purple Haze
It's a month old.
I started it cos I didn't think the 1st one was gonna make it... okay sooo

It's leaves are getting pale. Should I give it some very diluted compost tea?
1/20 dilution would be ok to spray it with?
Or stronger?

I'm also thinking of putting it into a 1 gal container today, until it's ready to go into it's 10 gal final home. Do I even need to up-pot or just get the 10 gal bag's soil ready to plant in a day or 2?
Thankful for All you knowledgeable, experienced farmers

Hi Pooz, looks like maybe some spider mite damage, looks stippled rather than yellow….you check the underside of those leaves?

 

[poozgrowz]

Hi Pooz, looks like maybe some spider mite damage, looks stippled rather than yellow….you check the underside of those leaves?

I don't see any bugs. It would help if my phone would make the colors exact.
But they are pale. And your right.. Not yellow. I'm gonna try & take another pic. Thanks

 

[Oldchucky]

Hi Pooz, looks like maybe some spider mite damage, looks stippled rather than yellow….you check the underside of those leaves?

Or thrips! Sometimes those little black dots are thrip poop! And thrips give the leaves a silvery color!