EZ Cloner...Not so Easy...

[OGPuck13]

Should I have it on a timer? Anyone have any advice? I'm running it 24 hours a day, 3 batches in a row just water logged. Using tap water, then tried r/o. No luck. I change the water out once a week.

Thanks guys.

 

[j wizzle]

you should take clones with a sharp razor blade 1st. thats the most important. do it at a 45 angle so you have a good surface area.


some strains take 20 days to root. the ez cloner is exactly that, easy. just be patient, make sure you are taking good, strong clones and it will work to perfectiong.



water logging usually happens right before the roots start to pop out.


are you seeing white bumps all over your stems? if so, those are the roots.


ive ran my cloner 24 hours a day with tap, RO, hygrozyme and even a light nute schedule and it works 100% of the time no matter what. even with water temps getting into the high 70s/low 80s

 

[cymbaline]

I am using a homemade one if it matters..
Yet I run mine 24/7, using bottled spring water.
One strain showed me roots in 8 days another strain wouldn't pop any roots just bumps
after 14 days and on day 21 still no root growth. My first run with it I used rain water and none of them popped roots but they all showed bumps and lived when I put them in soil.After 21 days if they don't have roots yet, I put them in soil and move on. I don't like running the same water longer than that..
I never know what my water temp is. Temps have been as high as the low 90s but I try and avoid that.. Humidity is all over the place depending on my main room.

 

[SSHZ]

I read about alot of unhappy EZ Cloner owners......... I'm guessing water temperature, poor cloning technique and pH issues are part of the problems here.

 

[SmokeyPipes]

Should I have it on a timer? Anyone have any advice? I'm running it 24 hours a day, 3 batches in a row just water logged. Using tap water, then tried r/o. No luck. I change the water out once a week.

Thanks guys.

I have a home made one I purchased off E -Bay,Works just the same as ez-cloner.I run mine 24 hours,I add some A/N B-52 and a litlle clonex,plus use rootech rooting gel on my cuts.I never empty the water,just add more when needed,usually some cold water and sometimes a couple ice cubes,if your water temps get too high,you wont get those clones too root.I usually check mine daily.don't have a thermostat,just check the water by touch and can tell if its getting too hot,also don't mist your clones,it usally does more harm than good..Main thing though is to make sure water temps don't get too high,usually always a problem when running your pump 24/7

 

[pikes peak 69]

On my EZ Cloner, the nozzles clog to easy. Hell I put the pump inside a filter bag and it still clogs the misters. I'm converting it to a medium pressure misting (100 psi) aeroponics setup soon.

pp69

 

[j wizzle]

thats the only probelm i had, clogged nozzles. but once i got a decent pump filter bag, all that went away. i still clean the nozzles between each round.

i actually have a homemade one too. just a submersible pump with PVC attachement and 20 EZ cloner nozzles. works great. not sure how everyone is having problems with these.


i think its the way you cut the clones. thats the most important factor IMO. ive had 100% success using brand new razor blades, i had problems using scissors but still had a 75% success rate at least

 

[entrails]

I built my home cloner and use 1 minute on, 5 minutes off for the misting. It clones 100% of the time. I would think leaving it on 100% could lead to problems.

 

[wonka]

tap water sets out for a few days and is then ph'd to 5.8.. i run my ez-60 for 6-8 hrs straight to start, then i set the timer for a half hour off / half hour on till they have nice roots and are finished.. see roots on some in 7-8 days and 95-100% rooted in 2 weeks n sometimes a few days more.. 11th / 12th day i add less than quarter strength veg nuts to green them up a bit before i take them out.. when finished, i run a half cup of bleach with warm water for a couple of hours, flip the neoprene that hold the clones at the half way point, then drain out. also draining out the pump and the manifold.. repeat one more time with with plain warm water and then again with cold water.. when finished, i lightly towel dry and then air dry 2 days before putting away.. this is what has worked for me..... w.wonka

 

[rambo6372]

I bought a ez-cloner and didnt get a single root on any of my clones. R/O with ph of 5.8 I think my problem was water temps as they were in the low 80's. I used a clone dome, heat mat and rapid rooters and got 100% success. The ez-cloner is going to sit in the closet for now.

 

[urbanite420]

Yeah, the biggest issue with the ez cloners is that they generate a lot of heat cuz the pump is in the reservoir. run the water thru a chiller and that will take care a lot of problems. we dont use ours anymore, but some peeps that run theirs with a chiller say they get their cuttings to root with only water.

pure ro is a lil harsh osmotically, ive never tried to root with ro but it might work. I liked to add very low amounts of calmag, with AN's voodoo juice with maybe ez cloner solution.

 

[billybadazz]

I don't like EZ cloner or turbo kloner had them both got rid of both. I have a powercloner now and don't have problems. I add 60 ml clonex solution dip cutting in clonex gel, 50 ml hygrozyme, ph to 7.0 with well water, keep at 70 F and bam 95-100% success rate every time. UNLESS your plugs are old and contaminated or you have a contaminated system from lack of cleaning or whatever. I replace my plugs every 6-8 times (rounds) and never had a problem with slimy stems again.

 

[Midnight_son]

I have 5 Easy-Clone machines, 2-30 place machines and 3-60 place machines. They work fine. PH the water to 5.8 - 6.2. If using RO water, a touch of nutrients and Cal-Mag to 120 -150 ppm. Do Not change the water after a week, The shoots need that constant spray going. Only add water when necessary, bringing it up to the bottom of the sprayer manifold. I have had cuttings root as quick as 3 day's and I have had some that take three week's. Make sure to use the air pump as well.

 

[FLB]

drop your ph to 4.8-5 with a lil flower formula.....VERY LITTLE. The lower ph helps propogate faster. So they say. I am getting 100% sucess

 

[noone88]

Some strains require humidity to root. Other strains can root in almost anything.

I use Botanicare Power Cloners because of the dome. The Turboklone has a dome accessory as well. I have 3 120-site EZ Cloners and they're collecting dust. I have a few Power Cloner units.

Use RO water, aquashield (which protects the clones from root slime), and your choice of cloning solution (I have tried Power Clone solution and Humboldt Roots with equal success). Currently, i'm testing a combination of aquashield, Humboldt roots, and Dynagro KLN.

Try to keep the temps of the water at about 80 degrees. It's the same logic with using a heating pad and rooting by hand. Aquashield is a must to prevent any root slime when water temps are that high.

 

[cheech]

might as well master the ez cloner since you have it. other readers might want to use a diy bubble cloner where the bubbles create a high humidity causing condensation to moisten the stems. run it 24 hours with tap water and never even bother with rooting hormones and almost expect every cut to root at this point. out of a 100 cuts all but 10 will root.

i made one of these for a guy that is borderline retarded(which is why i had to make it, explanation wasn't enough) and even he has a 90% success rate.

 

[Xceptional]

i'd use RO and add 200ppm grow that worked best for me and i do that to all my clones now regardless of how i'm taking them. i built this bad ass cloner and then now it sits in the corner i like rapid rooters better less failure rate (no pump) no res to adjust or monitor temps or ph etc and root in about the same amount of time. also i like having the rooter around the roots its like a little shield because i ripped off a few tap roots when trying to bury aero popped clones into my 2 gal hydroton filled buckets for my Ebb and Grow and ripping off main roots is harder when the rapid rooter is there :)

 

[Gro]

entrails is right.putting your pump on a timer will promote faster rooting and will also lower water temps.pumps create heat.the less they are on,the cooler the water is.

1min on/5min off is supposed to be best.however the timers are around 80-100 bones.you can get 15 min. on/off cycle timers for much cheeper(20 bones or less)that work well.good luck.:banana1sv6:

 

[entrails]

Aero cloning is by far the easiest way to clone. Ive cut the plant any so many ways, odd angles, stranges places, and every cutting has rooted 100%. I mean 100%. I use water right from the tap with nothing at all added( I mean nothing, zero ziltch nada),and a 396 pump, pvc pipe and an 18 gallon rubbermaid container. I followed the stink bud method and plans for building the cloner. Google Stinkbud to learn more. The set up costs virtually nothing to build.

The timer is pricy as G,ro said at $80-100 bucks for the Cap timer that lets you adjust the time. Cap also offers a different timer that is pre-set at 1 minute on and 4 minutes off. This timer costs a little less then the adjustable timer. The same timer and design principles are used to make both the veg and flower units.

Aero cloning is all about 1minute on 4 or 5 minutes off period to me. High temps in the water lead to many problems. G,ro is correct with the information in his post.

 

[OGPuck13]

I would like to thank everyone for their feedback.:hi