Induction Super Grow Light 300W = 1000W HID?

[Jalisco Kid]

If it worked the greenhouse industry would be all over it. JK

 

[OregonMeds]

Wrong thread... I wish there was a delete option.

 

[squarepusher]

If it worked the greenhouse industry would be all over it. JK

Well, not exactly. Look at DD's system, and a bunch of users here have really kick ass systems that blow away anything you can buy commercially on the market.

You may be right, but I think its too quick to completely say its impossible that these lights may have potential because the greenhouse industry doesn't use it.

Hopefully I'll be doing a product test soon, and I may even send one your way to do a "skeptic" trial run for a cycle :)

 

[wantaknow]

i for one would like to see what it does ,if it works like one would hope for ,this guys sales will be off the hook ,some of the best advertising he can do is right here ,right now ,what a small price to pay for such a potential return ,waiting with anticipation.....

 

[Papa]

Hopefully I'll be doing a product test soon.

Hey Squarepusher, did you ever test this thing?

 

[squarepusher]

Hey Squarepusher, did you ever test this thing?

yes, im in testing now. I vegged 5 plants under CFL for nearly 3 months lol, then my light arrived and I put it to flowering right away.

The ballast just died on 1 light, so I am trying to troubleshoot that with the manufacturer.

Here they are when they went in to flower
http://i514.invalid.com/albums/t341/jmptw/grow/IMG_0731.jpg

after ~2 weeks w/induction. They seem to be doing well, I'll have to run a side by side with HPS in the future if I think they may be a viable replacement
http://i514.invalid.com/albums/t341/jmptw/grow/IMG_0750.jpg

 

[Papa]

thanks squarepusher.
I'm looking forward to the side-by-side.
and please let us know how easy they are to deal with re: faulty ballast.

Papa

 

[NewAge]

Has anyone found websites that sell these lights, plug and play kinda thing?

 

[InductionGreen]

First off let me start off by saying, I have never grown using Induction lighting or any lighting for that matter, I am in the electrical industry and realize how great Induction lighting technology is, and there are more uses for it than just lighting buildings, as I am sure some of you know:winking0067: I am just a person who can get there hands on Induction lighting fixtures and lamps of all styles

I have good sources for Induction Lighting, and I am very knowledgeable about Induction lighting, if you are interested send me a message, I am a new member here. Possibly have access to a new fixture that uses twin 200watt induction lamps, that is equivalent to more than 1000 watts HID.
Also, have access to induction fixtures up to 300 watts that are equal to about 750 watts of HID.
I can supply fixtures that will offer a manufacturers warranty that guarantees the induction lamp and the driver for 10 years.

This is great technology, use 50% less power, put off less than half the heat, and never replace another bulb for 100,000 hours. It will be nice meeting you all. Thank you.

If you have any questions about Induction Lighting please feel free to ask.

PS: Did you know that Induction lighting has been around for years, the three big lamp manufacturers, Philips, Sylvania, and GE shelfed this lighting technology years ago, so they would not lose sales of their regular lamps. This lighting technology puts there lamp salesmen out of business, because there is no electrode to burn out in these lamps, so technically they should never go out!:pimp:

 

[squarepusher]

First off let me start off by saying, I have never grown using Induction lighting or any lighting for that matter, I am in the electrical industry and realize how great Induction lighting technology is, and there are more uses for it than just lighting buildings, as I am sure some of you know:winking0067: I am just a person who can get there hands on Induction lighting fixtures and lamps of all styles

I have good sources for Induction Lighting, and I am very knowledgeable about Induction lighting, if you are interested send me a message, I am a new member here. Possibly have access to a new fixture that uses twin 200watt induction lamps, that is equivalent to more than 1000 watts HID.
Also, have access to induction fixtures up to 300 watts that are equal to about 750 watts of HID.
I can supply fixtures that will offer a manufacturers warranty that guarantees the induction lamp and the driver for 10 years.

This is great technology, use 50% less power, put off less than half the heat, and never replace another bulb for 100,000 hours. It will be nice meeting you all. Thank you.

If you have any questions about Induction Lighting please feel free to ask.

PS: Did you know that Induction lighting has been around for years, the three big lamp manufacturers, Philips, Sylvania, and GE shelfed this lighting technology years ago, so they would not lose sales of their regular lamps. This lighting technology puts there lamp salesmen out of business, because there is no electrode to burn out in these lamps, so technically they should never go out!:pimp:

have yet to see an induction grow that raised my eyebrow as to anything interesting

 

[halitzor]

The key to growing the dank bud is the heat from the HID bulb. Without that warming which naturally occurs, the plants don't reach their potential. My theory.

 

[bubbafication]

wrong induction lights used

Hey Squarpusher,
Just noticed your pictures on your induction grow.
Wrong wrong wrong wrong!!
Your purple spectrum light is no good. the new bispectrum is no better. Why? if you get the spectral distribution sheet on this light you will see it has great wavelengths of blue and red but if you look at the luminous efficency you will see it only puts out 10 lumins/watt!!!! We tested these a year or two ago and found yes they veg nice but fell flat flowering. The phosphourous coating is so thick, it blocks out most of the light output. Your ballast failed after an hour because it overheated. There are a few companies pushing this crap and sell these in a tunnel light fixture enclosing the ballast and state they are IP68 waterproof. We are not grow outdoors so why is IP68 impotant? i see you are just using the lamp without this fixture, however they still over heat because although they are 120-277 volt ballast, they are designed to run on 220. At 120 they run much hotter than at 220. You need to drill some vents in the cover.
The only induction lights that work are from Envirotech. These are 2700K and 6500K inductions and put out 90 lumins/ watt. Here is a link to our grow with a 200 watt 2700K lamp in week 5 of flower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1VPvNd8OTo
Another thing i noticed is you elected to go with no refelctor. These lights need a certain amount of heat to operate properly and a four sided reflector is designed to supply that. if no proper relector is used , you will notice a great drop in light output after a few hours as much as 50% especailly if you have any airflow blowing at the bulb

 

[ookiimata]

I stumbled across these things looking through Chinese light manufacturers. Went ahead and asked for a quote on the 300W at 2700K. If it's reasonable and the shipping is affordable, I'll give it a try and let you guys know. Don't hold your breath.

They claim 45 lumen/watt on their spec sheet, by the way. That's at 100,000 life.

 

[bubbafication]

I stumbled across these things looking through Chinese light manufacturers. Went ahead and asked for a quote on the 300W at 2700K. If it's reasonable and the shipping is affordable, I'll give it a try and let you guys know. Don't hold your breath.

They claim 45 lumen/watt on their spec sheet, by the way. That's at 100,000 life.

If the specs are 45 lumins/watt then it aint 2700K this is the efficiency of the dreaded purple grow light. The true 2700K has 80-90 l/watt here is a spectral analysis sheet on 2700K.

 

[ookiimata]

Okay, received this quoted price from the manufacturer, just to give you guys a ballpark what these things are running.

The price for 300W TL02 induction light is FOB Shanghai, USD254.61 and the freight by express is USD340.00, so the total amount is USD594.61.

Too rich for my blood on an unproven product. That's for the 120v model, they also offer a 220v. I'm going to need quite a bit more grow reports and substantiated claims before I even consider spending that kind of money on a 300W light.

 

[motta-tokka]

I tested a 400 watt version of the induction light and it was ok at best. I would say its about the same of LED's.. To address some issues.. The frame is heavy usually.. Like wayyyy heavier than any light should be. There is heat that comes off of it. The glass is basically suppose to keep it all in and not have it vent. They get very hot on the inside. I tried it open with no glass and with glass. I was using a flowering bulb by the way. Very fun to test but a waste of time. Thanks to the company that allowed me to test it which I will not mention since they are on the "we will sell anything regardless of if its crap or not" bandwagon.

They work but I would not suggest them at all.

Why? Digital 600 or 1000 dimmable + your choice of vented hood + your choice of bulb = way better than this.

 

[420Gator]

those things look flimsy, theres also alot of brand new users in this thread

 

[ookiimata]

Good info Motta. Good to know in so far as I won't have to think about it anymore when I come across them. Pretty sure they only go to 2700K as well. Maybe they can build them to 2500K. And they do look very cheap and flimsy. Almost like one of those old strobe light boxes.

I'm a couple hours south of you, by the way. Not sure why that matters, just noticed your location. Chattanooga is a pretty cool place to visit.

 

[bubbafication]

jijie86..


I would be more than happy to do a test for you on these forums if you will provide the hardware. I can ship it back to you after the test if you like. I can also have the crop tested for THC content. I would need 4 units to do a real test to produce many pounds if your claims are true. Look in this forum and you can see that I am a legit grower with the ability to do a real test for you. if it works out, you will be rich..


Lost :)

Hi Lost,
I'm new to this forum and ran acroos this thread and your post. Are you still interested in testing these lights out? I have some induction lights that several customers are verry happy with but they never published any journals on. I need an independant non-bias grower to do a journal on them. What i have to offer is a new prototype 300 watt 2700K induction light with enhanced supplimentary led lights (40 watts) I have posted on a few different sites and only had a few takers but most were in Europe or the UK. were are you located? My theory for this light is the 2700K we know is the best induction light for growing 420 but looking at the SPD sheet, we noticed it is missing far red wavelengths. We are going to incorperate the missing wavelengths with LED's. Here is a link to what success we've had with just the 2700K lights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1VPvNd8OTo
I hope your still interested so we can put the sceptics to bed.

 

[kinzla34]

CIE Color Parameters:
Chromaticity Coordinate:x=0.4535 y=0.4147/u'=0.2566 v'=0.5280 (duv=2.13e-CCT:Tc= 2824K Prcp WaveL: d=582.9nm  Purity=60.6%

I'm confused by this report. As I read it I see it's not a 300 watt fixture being tested as the testing wattage measures 416.5 watts.

The report shows a 2824 Kelvin so I'm surprised to see that the Red Spectrum rated only 29.9% and Green Spectrum @ 67.6%.and then peaks @ 614 nm and an average of wavelength of 587 nm with low flux seems for flowering.

Do we have the wrong report or am I missing something?








Peak WaveL: p=615nm Half Width:  p=9.1nm Ratio:R=29.9% G=67.6% B=2.5%
Average Wave: 587nm
Rendering Index:Ra=81.0
R1 =98 R2 =93 R3 =48 R4 =87 R5 =86 R6 =77 R7 =87 R8 =72
R9 =11 R10=46 R11=74 R12=39 R13=96 R14=64 R15=93
Photo Parameters: (Standard lamp:A3000K)
Flux: =33809(lm) Luminous Efficacy: 81.16(lm/W) Luminous Power:P=96.40(W)
Electrical Parameters:
U=219.7V I=1.897A P=416.5W PF=0.999