house and garden bud xl

[mastacheeser]

spent several hrs trying to figure this product out
dude at the hyrdo store (who is extremely knowlegdable and ive personally seen his finished product) didnt know wtf it is either
he said it was one of three products in the store that he wasnt sure about
i know what h+g says about it but it really doesnt tell me anything
from the site
House & Garden Bud-XL has a unique ability to extract sugars from the leaves of the plant and transfer them to the fruit. The fruit is made sweeter and its taste is improved. Bud-XL will also increase the size and robustness of the flowers, resulting in an increase in fruit production and greater turnover.

my first thought would be its similar to big bud but after reading this im not to sure???
almost makes it sound like a sweetner

 

[Str8Dank]

part of the enzymes of their lineup. dealing with plant hormones Gibberellins etc to my knowledge from what i've heard.

 

[deacon1503]

I read a recent thread that said u can run bud xl along with additives like big bud and over drive because its like a vitamin booster and sugar mover, it has no NPK. Did GTD say this?

 

[mastacheeser]

its a .4-0-.2

 

[mastacheeser]

part of the enzymes of their lineup. dealing with plant hormones Gibberellins etc to my knowledge from what i've heard.

no multizyme is, almost everything in h+gs lineup has sme sort of enzyme in it

 

[Str8Dank]

i knew multizyme did but i was told that budxl did also. if i'm wrong i'm sorry about posting bad info i hate that shit personally but like i said i was told this by someone i have no proof myself.

i'd say its best to call their tech support for the most accurate answer.

 

[PorchMonkey4Life]

BUD XL

Bud -XL Takes care of the Sugar transport toward the tops,
Sugars Determine the top formation to a large degree.
The quality of the flowers is improved as well

contents>
Micro nutrients,amino acids,vitamins,protiens,minerals,Biotin b12,approx .ADENINE(Cytokinins) Auxin(IAA,ABA),Tripetide glutamine, 3-Adenylic acid,Riboflavin,thiamin,E 412 and E 202,

 

[mastacheeser]

so is it the same as big bud?
what products are similar?

 

[theherbalizor]

No not the same as big bud, it will not effect your ec. As stated it is not an npk booster.

Not found anything that it is not happy to run along side.

 

[Buddy Flowers]

"so is it the same as big bud?
what products are similar? "


thanks to porch monkey's solid info there, i'd say no, it's more like Bud Candy if you want to compare it to an AN product but it seems to be it's own thing

 

[mastacheeser]

here is the best response ive gotten
thx to the homie that laid it out in stupid so i could understand it

Originally Posted by .............
Hi, been using H&G for a while now. There is ALOT of chemistry that goes on with H&G nutrients. Bud XL is a one of kind bloom additive. I do not know of any others that work the way bud XL does. It does it thing by using a specific enzyme that will turn the sugar stored in the leaves and use it to build flowers. This makes the plant NOT have to do this on its own nor does it require you to add a sugar component.

Most other similar products are sugar type products that give the plant extra sugar for extra energy. Thats the way they work.

Budxl takes the sugar already stored in the leaves and makes the plant use them. A differnt approach if you will to accomplish the same goal, build flowers.

Works really well. There schedule is setup to use the Multi-Zen which a soup of different enzymes that help the plant grow. Then you switch from Multi-zen to budxl about 3rd week into flower. What your doing is switching enzymes really as different enzymes perform different task or duties for the plant. In nature bacteria would create these eznymes for the plant.

Like I mentioned there is some SERIOUS chemistry going on with H&G, BUT, you have to follow there charts for them to work properly.

 

[mastacheeser]

u start using right as you cut multizyme
anyone know if i still have to worry about late life nitrogen build up since its a end of life bloom additive?

 

[Mmmmasonite]

Bud XL actually works great in tandem with sweeteners...The enzymes in it help deliver the sugars, that sweeteners build up in the leaves and stalks, to the buds....A little nitrogen won't hurt.... 0.4 is not much...probably just enough to keep everything greener during those late stages....peace

 

[mastacheeser]

yep for sure, wish h+g made one
was using bud candy, but they cut their molases out so im prob going to be switching once this bottle is gone
watch out for the next new advanced nutrients product containing molases lol
had the sweet raw before but i actually think it did to much, so guna try the floranecteur and see how i like that. i just hope it keeps my rez clean like bud candy did

 

[ookiimata]

I'm considering adding this to my mostly organic feedings. I use hygrozyme. Would this product replace the hygrozyme when I begin using it, or should they be used in conjunction with one another? I think multizyme is H&G's version of hygrozyme, so if they recommend switching from Multizyme to Bud XL, I'd guess I should do the same with the hygrozyme, but if anyone can clear it up for me, I'd be thankful. I'm not currently running any other H&G products, I just like the idea of what this additive does and would like to give it a try.

 

[mastacheeser]

i think youd want to replace hydrozyme with multizyme and bud xl
multizyme 1-4 bud xl 5-8
saw their new chart where they ran multizyme all the way through tho
same chart says to use roots excel twards the end of flower
new house and garden feed chart
i guess i dont know it new, but its not the cali one they have at my hydro store
masonite is the h+g man so he'll give ya a great answer for sure

 

[ookiimata]

Thanks for the info, mastacheese. In the nutrient report BayArea did, he said that products like Cannazyme and AN's hygrozyme replacements are just a version of hygrozyme tweaked to interact with each company's specific nutrient line up. I was assuming the same would be true of H&G, but I really don't know. I'm not running the rest of their lineup so I figured Hygrozyme would be the best "universal" applicant.

I hate when companies switch up their feeding regimens. In theory I guess it's good because it suggests they're constantly researching and tweaking their products, but like you mentioned in another thread, I always have the pessimistic view that they're just trying to make more money.

 

[Mmmmasonite]

Thanks for the info, mastacheese. In the nutrient report BayArea did, he said that products like Cannazyme and AN's hygrozyme replacements are just a version of hygrozyme tweaked to interact with each company's specific nutrient line up. I was assuming the same would be true of H&G, but I really don't know. I'm not running the rest of their lineup so I figured Hygrozyme would be the best "universal" applicant.

I hate when companies switch up their feeding regimens. In theory I guess it's good because it suggests they're constantly researching and tweaking their products, but like you mentioned in another thread, I always have the pessimistic view that they're just trying to make more money.

The thing about H&G is that they are always improving through feedback from the people...So the changes that they make are to improve your product...This is the goal...A better tasting and yielding product. If you build it ....they will come....Peace

 

[Mmmmasonite]

i think youd want to replace hydrozyme with multizyme and bud xl
multizyme 1-4 bud xl 5-8
saw their new chart where they ran multizyme all the way through tho
same chart says to use roots excel twards the end of flower
new house and garden feed chart
i guess i dont know it new, but its not the cali one they have at my hydro store
masonite is the h+g man so he'll give ya a great answer for sure

Yeah...We have always run Multizen all the way through veg. and up until you add the Bud XL....The key ingredient in veg....in my opinion.....keeps plants green and roots clean...I guess my little secret made the chart eh....Peace

 

[mastacheeser]

their new chart is pretty much spot on with the custom chart that my local hydro store gives to their customers
its not straight h+g but it included multizyme all the way through flower and roots excel the 3 three weeks of flower as well
i really worry about nitrogen build up with the multizyme in there late(bayareas thread warns of this)
and as far as the roots excel, at the end of flower i want all my energy going up top, not down low
again i LOVE both of these products, i just dont understand the changes

and from what ive seen, the more benes and enzymes you can fit in during veg, the better. great tip masonite