just got acetic anhydride from a friend should i start cooking oil

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i want to make thc acetate but my acetic anhydride it says armful if fumes get in your lungs and can kill you and its really toxic and its not supposed to be used for any kind of food prep or for any drugs but it seems all most all bottles say that i got acetic anhydride acs 99.7% purity 1000ml and all the lab gear just not the acids or the hash yet i was thinking of going to a club and buying some hash oil thats near the low 90's in thc and mix it with some of my home grown oil to kick it that extra kick from the mature ruby red high i like i just love getting lost in the grocery store on pot its fuckin fun even when your chillin with your friends you just keep chillin lookin at all the great food getting lost in the safeway high on that ruby red hash so im trying to make some crazy strong edibles and if i cant use this for that can i use it for smoking hash i heard you have to do a huge wash to get the hash to even be smokable so is this what makes it safe to ingest and smoke ? i really want to just making thc acetate and fuck the rest 25ml per 10 grams of oil and i can make about 400 grams total with 1000ml of the stuff should i buy more would harborside buy THC Acetate or is this something i should just cook up for a headstash
 
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Acetic Anhydride, is Acetic acid (vinegar) with no water in it, and as such, is a strong acid, as well as having about the same flammability index as gasoline.

The vinegar that you use in your food, is 5% acetic acid and the rest water, but it definitely is edible.

You do have to react it out, by adding water, to complete the process, because up to that point, it is highly corrosive. You are through reacting it, when it no longer smells or tastes of vinegar.
 
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can you sell it to clubs will harborside buy thc acetate ?
 
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No clue! Pretty sure that anyone testing it will be interested in more though.

Now that we are making it often enough that some is left over after the Alchemy students get through sampling, we're finding that THC-O-Acetate isn't shelf stable, some slowly reverting back to vinegar, so the need for fast turnover might limit the opportunities.
 
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yeah i guess tho 4 hour batch of 40 in the morning and give to the club by the mid day i bet that product would sell out so fast i mean if i could just go buy some damn id pay 100 for a gram or 120 a gram
 
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Graywolf said:
No clue! Pretty sure that anyone testing it will be interested in more though.

Now that we are making it often enough that some is left over after the Alchemy students get through sampling, we're finding that THC-O-Acetate isn't shelf stable, some slowly reverting back to vinegar, so the need for fast turnover might limit the opportunities.
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This is expected, the Acetate moiety is highly hygroscopic and the bond is subject to hydrolysis.

Shelf life will increase significantly in a desiccator placed in a freezer.
 
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i guess just making my own head stash is a better idea than selling it to make some money for power ligjts n stuff
 
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Also please be careful with this stuff, it's a hop skip and a jump to explosives from acetic anhydride, very shock sensitive explosives. That's the main reason this chemical is on DEA and Homeland Security watch lists.
 
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monkeymun said:
How is acetic anhydride used to make oil?
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You can create the acetate ester of THC which crosses the blood-brain barrier more readily than normal THC. This is accomplished through an acetylation reaction, via an SN2 pathway.

There is also a phosphate ester which is water soluble and may be used intravenously.
 
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squiggly said:
You can create the acetate ester of THC which crosses the blood-brain barrier more readily than normal THC. This is accomplished through an acetylation reaction, via an SN2 pathway.

There is also a phosphate ester which is water soluble and may be used intravenously.
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We looked at the phosphate ester and there was a question as to what happens to its medical properties, so we haven't pursued it. Has anyone here tried it for effect?
 
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Graywolf said:
We looked at the phosphate ester and there was a question as to what happens to its medical properties, so we haven't pursued it. Has anyone here tried it for effect?
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Most of the studies of THC activity in the 70s were done with the phosphate ester, because it can be administered intravenously.
 
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Shit IV THC, that is something I've never heard of. How's that made?
 
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Graywolf said:
We were looking at using Phosphoric aciod.
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Phosphoric acid will not cause esterification in THC. The reaction scheme is as follows:

1. Treatment with phosphoryl chloride (dangerous) in pyridine to give the ortho-phosphoryl chloride ester.
2. Hydrolysis in water/ethyl ether to give the phosphate ester.
3. Removal from the ethyl ether layer and purification.
4. Conversion to the disodium salt of the phosphate ester (the target product) via treatment with sodium hydroxide in ethanol.
5. Further characterization/purification (the salt should precipitate in ethanol).

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Thanks for the input bro! I forwarded it to Joe, our chemistry brain trust, and will report back once he responds.
 
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