TEPCO Quietly Admits Reactor 3 Could Be Melting Down NOW

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Gamrstwin36

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So very hard to get real details about this. @gamrswin36 are you talking about marshall law type of stuff?


Not necessarily. They must protect Population first . So if anything us on the west coast would have a day maybe more to find safe zones . But with technology we should be fine .. I hope.
 
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Well japan has security measures first off. . If they can't contain it...then shit gets heavy from there.

They never had a hope of containing it! It's just now coming out almost 3 years later how bad it is! 3 reactor cores GONE, melted into the earth and groundwater and ocean.
 
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If this is true, and as a matter of fact, north America west coast have been hit the hardest so far by Fukushima.

Scenario 1) Water, air food get so contaminated that people will get serious health problems quickly.
Hospital are full and overwhelm. Clean food water etc start to miss. People killing each other for clean water etc. Martial law is declare and a lot of people die.

Scenario 2) Same as scenario one, but the gov hide everything from the public. People start to freak out, independent journalist are jailed for telling the truth. Increase of cancer rate is hidden to the public. Until people realize the truth and see that most of the elite have left the country, and scenario one start.

I don't see no happy ending in this movie, prepare for the worst brothers.
 
Joe Fresh

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damn im happy to be living on the east coast....it seems from all ive been reading, its not a matter if IF it goes down, its a matter of WHEN....because it would seem that tepco can not, or will not do anything to fix the problem, just cover it up and keep it hush hush...maybe they know they cannot fix the problem and are just biding their time?
 
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"Have no fear for atomic energy cause none of them can stop the time"


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neverbreak

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true or not, it def highlights that this saga is far from over. i suspect it's gonna get worse before it's gonna get better. i just hope there ain't anymore earthquakes that hit the plant....

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SoCal 420

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Where's all the global environmentalists and the E.P.A. when you need them? They Kill Fracking, Key Stone Pipeline, Drilling for Oil, Coal... Guess they missed the fact that Nuclear Energy provides only 12% of energy globally and "Every Single Plant" sits right on top of A major water source / aquifer or the ocean for cooling... Oopsy Daisy :confused: Ever hear the term"Butterfly Effect" ???
 
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Steam heat? What is happening at Fukushima Daiichi?

Beginning on Monday December 30, 2013, the Internet has been flooded with conjecture claiming that Fukushima Daiichi Unit 3 is ready to explode. Fairewinds Energy Education has been inundated with questions about the very visible steam emanating from Fukushima Daiichi Unit 3. Our research, and discussions with other scientists, confirms that what we are seeing is a phenomenon that has been occurring at the Daiichi site since the March 2011 accident.

It is winter and it is cold throughout much of the northern hemisphere. Hot water vapor has been released daily by each of the four Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plants since the accident. We believe that is one of the reasons TEPCO placed covers over Daiichi 4 and 1. Sometimes the steam [hot water vapor] is visible and sometimes it is not. If you have been outside on a cold winter day, you have personally experienced that phenomenon when you see the breath you exhale form a cloud in the cold air. The technical explanation is that hot water vapor becomes visible when it comes in contact with cold air and condenses. During the winter months in the Fukushima Prefecture, the sea air is cold and moist, thus forming the ideal conditions to see the released steam.

Why is there still steam coming from the plants especially since TEPCO says that they are in cold shutdown? As we at Fairewinds have discussed in our many videos, podcasts, and reports, radioactive rubble (fission products) was left in each unit following the triple meltdowns. While the plants are shutdown in nuke speak, there is no method of achieving cold shut down in any nuclear reactor. While the reactor can stop generating the actual nuclear chain reaction, the atoms left over from the original nuclear chain reaction continue to give off heat that is called the decay of the radioactive rubble (fission products). The heat from this ongoing decay of radioactive rubble is constantly releasing moisture (steam) and radioactive products into the environment. The radioactive decay is gradually slowing down, as fission products decay away. The cold moist winter air at this time of year is making steam from the ongoing decay easily visible.

How much radiation is escaping? When Unit 3 was operating, it was producing more than 2,000 megawatts of heat from the nuclear fission process (chain reaction in the reactor). Immediately after the earthquake and tsunami, it shut down and the chain reaction stopped, but Unit 3 was still producing about 160 megawatts of decay heat. Now, 30 months later, it is still producing slightly less than 1 megawatt (one million watts) of decay heat.

What does that figure mean; is it an inconsequential amount? 1 megawatt of decay heat is a lot of heat even today, and it is creating radioactive steam, but it is not a new phenomenon. These hot radioactive releases [not physically hot, but radioactive hot – meaning they contain radioactive fission products] have occurring for the entire 33 months following the triple meltdown. The difference now is that the only time we visibly notice these ongoing releases is on the cold days with atmospheric conditions cold enough to condense hot vapor into steam.

Fairewinds Energy Education would like to thank our viewers and listeners for following our work and supporting our work and sending it important questions like this one. We will continue to keep you informed.
 
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I think most innovative technical processes come from watching nature and mimicking those processes. There is a model for nuclear energy in nature, and it suggests the optimal distance for a nuclear fusion device is more than 92 million miles away from the civilization harnessing it most efficiently.
Even at 92.9 million miles hiccups on the Sun still create destructive weather patterns on Earth that last decades.
 
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I think it will be a while before there is clarity over the exact state of the plant in Fukuskima. Until then, we can expect numerous sensationalised articles, endless questions over coverups and perhaps numerous articles downplaying the true extent of the what's happening.

-- iCultivate --
 
SoCal 420

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I could see how some might question Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute & Scripps Institution of Oceanography UC San Diego and the like because "They" might be the ones posing A Conspiracy or withholding info but I find it highly more likely that governmental agencies have far more to hide than the previously listed "Leading" Educational / Scientific institutes...

Here's A little clip straight from the peeps that do the studies were talking about here...


Prior to Fukushima, however, the levels of cesium-137 off the coast of Japan, as cataloged by Michio Aoyama at the Meteorological Research Institute in Japan and others, were among the world’s lowest, at around 2 becquerels per cubic meter (1 becquerel, or Bq, equals one radioactive decay event per second). Against this background, the concentrations measured in early April of 2011 were all the more alarming. At the source waters closest to the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant operated by the Tokyo Electric Power Co., concentrations of up to 60 million becquerels per cubic meter were reported, high enough to cause reproductive and health effects in marine animals... :eek:

The above paragraph is contained in the section titled "Radio Isotopes in the Ocean" but there is Plenty More reading to do there about Health Risks, Food Source, Marine Life etc. that may just leave your eyes wide open if your interested in drawing conclusions from reliable sources on your own...

and here's the link -> -> ->

Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution is the world's leading non-profit oceanographic research organization. Our mission is to explore and understand the ocean and to educate scientists, students, decision-makers, and the public.http://www.whoi.edu/http://www.whoi.edu/


If you feel so inclined to swim in the water or eat food sources from it, be my guest... but I'd suggest you do A little self educating from reliable sources before relying on what your being told, but hey, It's your Ass on the line... Right? ;)
 
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SoCal 420

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Half cat


Fukushima Radiation and Genetic Mutation? Reactor Pet Cat says...
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SoCal 420

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But SoCal, how can you say the governments are hiding the truth from us? My answer... it's pretty obvious if you can think for yourself. The "Safe" level of Radiation Exposure is (X)... X = (Enter New # Here) Don't follow?

Take A look @ this...



Now A document quietly released after the Fukushima Disaster and the 2012 Presidential Election...
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For Immediate Release: Apr 08, 2013
Contact: Kirsten Stade (202) 265-7337

WHITE HOUSE APPROVES RADICAL RADIATION CLEANUP ROLLBACK
Civilian Cancer Deaths Expected to Skyrocket Following Radiological Incidents

Posted on Apr 08, 2013 | Tags: EPA

Washington, DC — The White House has given final approval for dramatically raising permissible radioactive levels in drinking water and soil following “radiological incidents,” such as nuclear power-plant accidents and dirty bombs. The final version, slated for Federal Register publication as soon as today, is a win for the nuclear industry which seeks what its proponents call a “new normal” for radiation exposure among the U.S population, according Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER).

Issued by the Environmental Protection Agency, the radiation guides (called Protective Action Guides or PAGs) allow cleanup many times more lax than anything EPA has ever before accepted. These guides govern evacuations, shelter-in-place orders, food restrictions and other actions following a wide range of “radiological emergencies.” The Obama administration blocked a version of these PAGs from going into effect during its first days in office. The version given approval late last Friday is substantially similar to those proposed under Bush but duck some of the most controversial aspects:

In soil, the PAGs allow long-term public exposure to radiation in amounts as high as 2,000 millirems. This would, in effect, increase a longstanding 1 in 10,000 person cancer rate to a rate of 1 in 23 persons exposed over a 30-year period;

  • In water, the PAGs punt on an exact new standard and EPA “continues to seek input on this.” But the thrust of the PAGs is to give on-site authorities much greater “flexibility” in setting aside established limits; and
  • Resolves an internal fight inside EPA between nuclear versus public health specialists in favor of the former. The PAGs are the product of Gina McCarthy, the assistant administrator for air and radiation whose nomination to serve as EPA Administrator is taken up this week by the Senate.
  • Despite the years-long internal fight, this is the first public official display of these guides. This takes place as Japan grapples with these same issues in the two years following its Fukushima nuclear disaster.
“This is a public health policy only Dr. Strangelove could embrace. If this typifies the environmental leadership we can expect from Ms. McCarthy, then EPA is in for a long, dirty slog,” stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch, noting that the EPA package lacks a cogent rationale, is largely impenetrable and hinges on a series of euphemistic “weasel words.” “No compelling justification is offered for increasing the cancer deaths of Americans innocently exposed to corporate miscalculations several hundred-fold.”

Reportedly, the PAGs had been approved last fall but their publication was held until after the presidential election. The rationale for timing their release right before McCarthy’s confirmation hearing is unclear.

Since the PAGs guide agency decision-making and do not formally set standards or repeal statutory requirements, such as the Safe Drinking Water Act and Superfund, they will go into full effect following a short public comment period. Nonetheless, the PAGs will likely determine what actions take place on the ground in the days, weeks, months and, in some cases, years following a radiological emergency.

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