Calling all experts!

The Trimpal works pretty good for dry trim but it has to be almost bone dry to be effective. Colorado is dry as hell anyways, sometimes in the single digits for RH..I the warehouse dry rooms we use alot of dehuie's and a/c's to control humidity and temp during the drying process

Yes...same here. We have the aircon's to keep the temps optimal and keeping the humidity at just the right level is just the biggest deal. Until we got a dehumidifier I had no idea they worked so well. First run we just controlled the venting out of the drying room and it worked ok for what we had but was certainly not optimal since we were cooling the room with aircon. We did not have this yield to work with though which is just a different ball game entirely. We had to rent a couple of larger dehuie's for our large veg room that is full of absolutely full of hanging plants in 2 levels and they are working perfectly and as long as you change the buckets when you need to everything is great. Each of our other 3 drying rooms that are more "normal" sized rooms are good with a big $250 one that is intended for home use. Next year if we are still at this location I think we will have to have a larger processing room and perhaps a couple of 40x10 containers to deck out specifically for drying. I have heard of and seen demos of the trimpal as well as the meangreen which was also recommended to me but from a guy down Humboldt way and I think Hayden ordered one or the other yesterday...I am just not sure which one. We also ordered the Grasshopper pollen extractor so we don't have to shake the damned kief can all day long to make our kief. That will be so nice:-) We are still very small, still all family members except for the short time trimming crew, and having so much weed to trim is pretty daunting. I did take what TK said to heart about having a crew ready though so we were prepared on that front. With the crew we have we are averaging about 15 lbs a day now if everyone is here and working so hopefully we will get through it all in a reasonable amount of time. Still really do not have a good idea of how much we have but definitely well over 2o0 lbs. Going for about $4000 a lb here at this moment (isn't that totally crazy??) but who knows after the first of November when we see more of the larger outdoor growers selling their stuff it should come down from that price.

@Texas Kid did you purposely reply @ 4:20 today. funny ass shit. the big dogs.HAhaha.

Here is the ones we use..has a built in condensation pump and 100ft discharge hose, works perfectly..but a little pricey at around $1700 bucks, well worth it though

http://www.drieaz.com/_DEC/DEC_Product_Base.aspx?decID=2120



Here is another drying device we are kickin around getting right now..kills all mold spores and bacteria, has computer based data logs, totally custom options.

http://ww.triqsystems.com/products/vulcan50.html



CannTrol Vulcan50 Benefits

• Can kill up to 99% of Molds including aspergillus, botyrtis & more
• Automates and Optimizes Drying Processes
• Industrial Grade and Made in the USA

What is the CannTrol Vulcan50?
CannTrol Vulcan50 is the worlds first cannabis specific drying technology. The machine is designed to be put inside an approximately 1300 cu. ft. chamber and can dry the equivalent of approximately 50 lbs of dry material (approximately 250 lbs of wet material) in 7-10 days. The CannTrol Vulcan50 is fully automated to run various customizable cannabis drying schedules. The CannTrol Vulcan50 comes pre-configured with a cannabis drying schedule that can kill 99.9% of many molds including aspergillus and botrytis (patent pending). The components consist of heating, cooling, drying, venting and humidifying capacities. The CannTrol Vulcan50
comes fully integrated with TRiQsoft Cultivation and Processing software. The CannTrol Vulcan50 can be run via the cloud from anywhere in the world (with an internet connection). Alerts can be sent via email and dry phase data points are all stored in your software license.

Why Choose it?
Take the guesswork out of your drying process and standardize it like other industries'. With standardization comes consistency of quality and streamlining of operations. Track the drying data from each batch of a varietal in TRiQsoft. Remotely monitor Vulcan50 drying performance. Prevent costly recalls from failed microbial tests by killing harmful molds.

Texas Kid said:

Here is the ones we use..has a built in condensation pump and 100ft discharge hose, works perfectly..but a little pricey at around $1700 bucks, well worth it though

http://www.drieaz.com/_DEC/DEC_Product_Base.aspx?decID=2120

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Here is another drying device we are kickin around getting right now..kills all mold spores and bacteria, has computer based data logs, totally custom options.

http://ww.triqsystems.com/products/vulcan50.html

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CannTrol Vulcan50 Benefits

• Can kill up to 99% of Molds including aspergillus, botyrtis & more
• Automates and Optimizes Drying Processes
• Industrial Grade and Made in the USA

What is the CannTrol Vulcan50?
CannTrol Vulcan50 is the worlds first cannabis specific drying technology. The machine is designed to be put inside an approximately 1300 cu. ft. chamber and can dry the equivalent of approximately 50 lbs of dry material (approximately 250 lbs of wet material) in 7-10 days. The CannTrol Vulcan50 is fully automated to run various customizable cannabis drying schedules. The CannTrol Vulcan50 comes pre-configured with a cannabis drying schedule that can kill 99.9% of many molds including aspergillus and botrytis (patent pending). The components consist of heating, cooling, drying, venting and humidifying capacities. The CannTrol Vulcan50
comes fully integrated with TRiQsoft Cultivation and Processing software. The CannTrol Vulcan50 can be run via the cloud from anywhere in the world (with an internet connection). Alerts can be sent via email and dry phase data points are all stored in your software license.

Why Choose it?
Take the guesswork out of your drying process and standardize it like other industries'. With standardization comes consistency of quality and streamlining of operations. Track the drying data from each batch of a varietal in TRiQsoft. Remotely monitor Vulcan50 drying performance. Prevent costly recalls from failed microbial tests by killing harmful molds.

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now thats interesting

Texas Kid said:

Here is the ones we use..has a built in condensation pump and 100ft discharge hose, works perfectly..but a little pricey at around $1700 bucks, well worth it though

http://www.drieaz.com/_DEC/DEC_Product_Base.aspx?decID=2120

View attachment 451087

Here is another drying device we are kickin around getting right now..kills all mold spores and bacteria, has computer based data logs, totally custom options.

http://ww.triqsystems.com/products/vulcan50.html

View attachment 451092

CannTrol Vulcan50 Benefits

• Can kill up to 99% of Molds including aspergillus, botyrtis & more
• Automates and Optimizes Drying Processes
• Industrial Grade and Made in the USA

What is the CannTrol Vulcan50?
CannTrol Vulcan50 is the worlds first cannabis specific drying technology. The machine is designed to be put inside an approximately 1300 cu. ft. chamber and can dry the equivalent of approximately 50 lbs of dry material (approximately 250 lbs of wet material) in 7-10 days. The CannTrol Vulcan50 is fully automated to run various customizable cannabis drying schedules. The CannTrol Vulcan50 comes pre-configured with a cannabis drying schedule that can kill 99.9% of many molds including aspergillus and botrytis (patent pending). The components consist of heating, cooling, drying, venting and humidifying capacities. The CannTrol Vulcan50
comes fully integrated with TRiQsoft Cultivation and Processing software. The CannTrol Vulcan50 can be run via the cloud from anywhere in the world (with an internet connection). Alerts can be sent via email and dry phase data points are all stored in your software license.

Why Choose it?
Take the guesswork out of your drying process and standardize it like other industries'. With standardization comes consistency of quality and streamlining of operations. Track the drying data from each batch of a varietal in TRiQsoft. Remotely monitor Vulcan50 drying performance. Prevent costly recalls from failed microbial tests by killing harmful molds.

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Loving the CannTrol Vulcan50....That could save some commercial growers some serious cash considering the value of a moldy 1000 lbs of weed vs the value of an un moldy 1000 lbs of weed! I will be spreading the word around:-) I just had a call last night from a tier 3 grower here trying to sell 1400 lbs of weed that failed labs and he is trying to get $400 an lb for it now. We have no use for it because we do not do any concentrates (except kief and it has to be from tested buds or sugar leaf that has already passed the labs) but they put hundreds of thousands of dollars into their grow and were absolutely expecting to recover it all in this crop. Not so much any more and even though they started with way more than we did it still breaks my heart to know that someone is going to loose so much after such hard work:-( I feel very lucky that we are not in the same boat and that is for damned sure. While $1700 was at one point basically impossible for us to even consider paying for anything pretty much, the necessity of such equipment when doing this on any big scale and really for us that means when we have huge outdoor crops, it totally out weighs the costs. We will be ordering something along this line in the very near future. Thanks for the info TK:-)

We are at the point in our second harvest of deciding where we want our pot to be sold. Unfortunately packaging takes as long as grooming does so we try to sell smaller batches at a time so that we can manage the packaging without needing every single one of us to do it because all the plant care, traceability, cleaning, potting, cloning, etc. still needs to go on while we are packaging. For us smaller batches means 2-5 lbs at a time. That does not seem like that much when you have hundreds of lbs but if you have to package nearly all that weight into 1 gram baggies or hand roll 600 joints or pack 1000 cones it takes a huge amount of time. The real benefit for shops buying from us though is that in that sale of a few lbs we can include as many as 20 strains at a time so the shop does not have to put out huge payments at once and still is able to have a big selection of strains for their customers to choose from. I thought it would be a good marketing strategy but I really had no idea that it would make us so popular for retail shops and we literally could place our products in any retail recreational shop in the state right now. (except for Mainstreet Marijuana in Vancouver because I despise the guy who owns it and have been very vocal about that publicly:-))) This tool has said to reporters that he will never allow a grower to make more money from the weed they grow when he sells it in his shop than he does, meaning the grower who has the plant for 5 months will make less than he does when he has the dried product for a couple of days. I cannot stand the guy!!!) That puts me in the spot of having to decide who "gets" to carry our product.....go freaking figure! I feel it is best to have W.O.W. Weed in some shops all the time and a few of the larger shops all of the time because we can keep a few smaller shops stocked pretty much all the time if our indoor harvests go OK and still have the novelty of our many strains in some of the larger shops at holidays maybe or featured once a month or something...? When I call or email someone because we think it would be a good spot to deal with we get responses like "this is the call we have been waiting for" or "you made our month by calling" or "we never thought you would call us" and it is so wild to me that our little operation is that popular with the retail people! Now we have to get our name out to the customers and we are going to at least try to get our product out there for less than $20 a gram (which I know sounds nasty ass high but with taxation and regulation at its current levels much lower is not possible) but hopefully if we put out a really good product that will be relatively easy. Our packaging is so simple and it is not smell proof so you can smell us coming a mile away and most shop owners love that and say...our shop finally smells like a pot shop should. What was once a liability (smelling strongly of weed) is now a selling point....I love it!

There is so much more to this business than just growing good weed.....:-/ Probably one of the reasons I had no interest in owning any sort of a business to begin with or really at any point in my life prior to this. I don't like paperwork, I don't like answering phone calls all day long or emails every 3 minutes but so far with our business it falls to me to manage pretty much everything except the plants now which for the most part Sophy, my oldest daughter and her fiance David care for daily. I started doing this because I believe in legal weed and I like to grow weed. When WA legalized I thought having a legitimate growing operation would be a way to affect both of those things. Seems with all this other stuff I do less and less of the actual growing. I finally went and got my WA medical card so I could grow a few plants of my own at home......now isn't that ironic:-) For anyone considering "legal" growing....wrap your head around all the business aspects of this crazy process because that is what takes the most time, concentration and attention when it comes right down to it if you want to be successful is probably the most critical part of that whole thing. Of course a good product is crucial as well but I am not naive enough to think we are the best growers out there....we are small potatoes in the scheme of growing techniques and skills. We try to keep good relationships with other growers/processors/retailers and I still try to help every single person I can make it through this crazy process and that has been pretty much priceless in our standing in this business community. I am still just blown away by this whole journey and when I take a moment to sit back and reflect on it all it sort of makes my head spin!

The guy selling moldy weed for 400lb is going to cross contaminate

inthegorge said:

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We are at the point in our second harvest of deciding where we want our pot to be sold. Unfortunately packaging takes as long as grooming does so we try to sell smaller batches at a time so that we can manage the packaging without needing every single one of us to do it because all the plant care, traceability, cleaning, potting, cloning, etc. still needs to go on while we are packaging. For us smaller batches means 2-5 lbs at a time. That does not seem like that much when you have hundreds of lbs but if you have to package nearly all that weight into 1 gram baggies or hand roll 600 joints or pack 1000 cones it takes a huge amount of time. The real benefit for shops buying from us though is that in that sale of a few lbs we can include as many as 20 strains at a time so the shop does not have to put out huge payments at once and still is able to have a big selection of strains for their customers to choose from. I thought it would be a good marketing strategy but I really had no idea that it would make us so popular for retail shops and we literally could place our products in any retail recreational shop in the state right now. (except for Mainstreet Marijuana in Vancouver because I despise the guy who owns it and have been very vocal about that publicly:))) This tool has said to reporters that he will never allow a grower to make more money from the weed they grow when he sells it in his shop than he does, meaning the grower who has the plant for 5 months will make less than he does when he has the dried product for a couple of days. I cannot stand the guy!!!) That puts me in the spot of having to decide who "gets" to carry our product.....go freaking figure! I feel it is best to have W.O.W. Weed in some shops all the time and a few of the larger shops all of the time because we can keep a few smaller shops stocked pretty much all the time if our indoor harvests go OK and still have the novelty of our many strains in some of the larger shops at holidays maybe or featured once a month or something...? When I call or email someone because we think it would be a good spot to deal with we get responses like "this is the call we have been waiting for" or "you made our month by calling" or "we never thought you would call us" and it is so wild to me that our little operation is that popular with the retail people! Now we have to get our name out to the customers and we are going to at least try to get our product out there for less than $20 a gram (which I know sounds nasty ass high but with taxation and regulation at its current levels much lower is not possible) but hopefully if we put out a really good product that will be relatively easy. Our packaging is so simple and it is not smell proof so you can smell us coming a mile away and most shop owners love that and say...our shop finally smells like a pot shop should. What was once a liability (smelling strongly of weed) is now a selling point....I love it!

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I'm astonished at how quickly things have gotten to this point, and proud of you (if you'll allow that) and just fuckin' impressed as HELL.

inthegorge said:

There is so much more to this business than just growing good weed.....:-/ Probably one of the reasons I had no interest in owning any sort of a business to begin with or really at any point in my life prior to this. I don't like paperwork, I don't like answering phone calls all day long or emails every 3 minutes but so far with our business it falls to me to manage pretty much everything except the plants now which for the most part Sophy, my oldest daughter and her fiance David care for daily. I started doing this because I believe in legal weed and I like to grow weed. When WA legalized I thought having a legitimate growing operation would be a way to affect both of those things. Seems with all this other stuff I do less and less of the actual growing. I finally went and got my WA medical card so I could grow a few plants of my own at home......now isn't that ironic:) For anyone considering "legal" growing....wrap your head around all the business aspects of this crazy process because that is what takes the most time, concentration and attention when it comes right down to it if you want to be successful is probably the most critical part of that whole thing. Of course a good product is crucial as well but I am not naive enough to think we are the best growers out there....we are small potatoes in the scheme of growing techniques and skills. We try to keep good relationships with other growers/processors/retailers and I still try to help every single person I can make it through this crazy process and that has been pretty much priceless in our standing in this business community. I am still just blown away by this whole journey and when I take a moment to sit back and reflect on it all it sort of makes my head spin!

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You've just hit on the ideas and practices, as well as the reality behind the notion of doing something you love. Sometimes, when you make doing something you love your job, it becomes a job, a chore, and actually takes you away from the aspects you loved. I experienced it with fishkeeping when I went from hobbyist to working the trade. But! You still love growing weed, you're just not able to do it *as* part of your job anymore.

Looking back, especially rereading some of your first posts, I'm blown away, too. This just drips awesome all over the place. :D

" (except for Mainstreet Marijuana in Vancouver because I despise the guy who owns it and have been very vocal about that publicly:))) This tool has said to reporters that he will never allow a grower to make more money from the weed they grow when he sells it in his shop than he does, meaning the grower who has the plant for 5 months will make less than he does when he has the dried product for a couple of days. I cannot stand the guy!!!)"
He has no idea what he has done to himself with all of his comments! I will personally never set foot in his store either as a buyer or seller even if it means driving hundreds of miles.

Seamaiden said:

I'm astonished at how quickly things have gotten to this point, and proud of you (if you'll allow that) and just fuckin' impressed as HELL.

You've just hit on the ideas and practices, as well as the reality behind the notion of doing something you love. Sometimes, when you make doing something you love your job, it becomes a job, a chore, and actually takes you away from the aspects you loved. I experienced it with fishkeeping when I went from hobbyist to working the trade. But! You still love growing weed, you're just not able to do it *as* part of your job anymore.

Looking back, especially rereading some of your first posts, I'm blown away, too. This just drips awesome all over the place. :D

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And to think I am just some old fat bald broad that loves weed enough to go through all this silliness:-))) Ain't life grand!

Coir said:

" (except for Mainstreet Marijuana in Vancouver because I despise the guy who owns it and have been very vocal about that publicly:))) This tool has said to reporters that he will never allow a grower to make more money from the weed they grow when he sells it in his shop than he does, meaning the grower who has the plant for 5 months will make less than he does when he has the dried product for a couple of days. I cannot stand the guy!!!)"
He has no idea what he has done to himself with all of his comments! I will personally never set foot in his store either as a buyer or seller even if it means driving hundreds of miles.

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I have talked to a few Disp owners like that...never even grown a plant before...they just know how to smoke it....

inthegorge said:

And to think I am just some old fat bald broad that loves weed enough to go through all this silliness:))) Ain't life grand!

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Too cool ....Thanks for sharing @inthegorge

Here is a photo of my partner Hayden and our friend Tyler giving the new indoor ladies a little musical love:-) My daughter Rachael took the shot with her fisheye len on her Iphone.

We are finally at the point where we can actually pay people and get a payday ourselves!!!! This is a historic moment for me:-) We offered my oldest daughter who has been my cornerstone for this whole venture $20 per hour with health insurance and her fiance David the same thing. They are our main plant tenders, get here at 6AM 5 days a week and keep our plants healthy and happy. We also are buying them a used Subaru for $4500 as a bonus because they need another car so that feels pretty damned good finally. My youngest daughter is giving notice at the winery where she works and she is going to start here at $18 an hour with health insurance and she is going to take over packaging and our inventory of our "products" meaning our dried bud, making sure our records and the Liquor Control Boards match up so we are always in compliance. We are hiring a local middle age lady that came to start trimming for us a few weeks ago and she has a sort of abusive husband that is an absolute ass. She is 2 years older than me and has had the most negative image of herself because she allows his words to affect how she feels about herself and coming to work with us and our other "lovely ladies" as I call our wonderful trimmers who are almost all women in their 50'3-70's has helped her remember just what a lovely wonderful person she is:- ) It has been pretty phenomenal to witness really and we are able to start her at $18 an hour too which also makes me feel pretty fabulous. We have about 8-14 people trimming every day right now and we are paying them $13 an hour cash once a week. It might bite me in the ass but since we have very little we can write off on taxes anyway it is worth it to me to be able to do this for the folks we have working. We are also going to hire a full time person to deal with "traceability" of the plants themselves which is also crucial to being in compliance with the LCB and he will make $20 an hour too. Both Hayden, our other partner and myself are going to start drawing a salary of $50,000 a year which is not a ton of money but at least it is something in my pocket and we can take bonuses if it turns out that we can afford them. Then we want to move over across the river and open a medical dispensary in Hood River, OR in the next 2 months if we can possibly manage it so we are well poised to get into the recreational market place in Oregon in case they build on their medical system like Colorado did and maybe in Anchorage, AK as well if their ballot measure passes next month. I am pretty much just in awe of how this has all worked out so far:-) We will be needing good employees in each of those locations as well but they will have to be as hard of workers as we have been these last few months to be able to pull this off. Too bad I only have 2 hard working daughters!

You're kicking ass ITG!!!

You do realise that you are paving the way in part for a replicable legal model for the rest of the USA and possibly the world?

Looks like your the expert now!!!

And some people said it would all be a disaster for you. HAH!!!

I don't think I am any kind of an expert but thanks for the kind words:-) Really I am just a sort of crazy driven sort of person who really believes in legalization and there has been so much involvement and work by so many other people that has gotten us here. We are just terribly fortunate and we know that more than anyone else. All along the main reason I had to do this was to be a part of paving that way....really it was just such a big deal to me as it is to most of the people on this message board I would imagine, to see weed legal. Not that it really is true legalization, but it sure as hell is a start and hopefully each state that does come on board will do better and better until we really have something eventually! It so could have turned to disaster for us.....really it could have.....and I just thank all the weed gods.....all the wonderfully giving people that have helped us.....my amazing kids who stuck it out working 7 day work weeks 10 plus hour days and put up with me and all my talking talking talking about nothing but weed and how we could manage to do this......and everything else that has cosmically aligned or whatever happened in each and every step that went right to get us here:-) I know I say it all the time but man o man it is just freaking incredible!

I don't really comment here much but I have to say @inthegorge this is my training area i do plan to one day be where you are i have in the last four years decided this will be my life long career and not just an awesome hobby thank you for sharing with us and starting this way informative thread i truly hope all goes up from here and your entire dream gets
Lifted up high best of wishes and luck your way Bless :D

Id love to tell you it gets easier girl but really you just get more comfortable working your ass off day in and day out...your doing great, it sure does the soul good to be able to help yourself, your loved ones, and the ones in the trenches with you every day...I can tell ya that after 5 years or so of 80 hour weeks, I still wouldn't trade it for the world..

Love and respect to you and yours

Paying your employees a LIVING WAGE is huge, itg. You might want to consider getting your business one of those "socially responsible" certifications. I'm trying to remember a specific name of one of them, but I've been reading about them more and more lately.

Seamaiden said:

This just drips awesome all over the place. :D

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lol..Yep :)
Great work ITG! Wow!! :woot:

inthegorge said:

I don't think I am any kind of an expert but thanks for the kind words:) Really I am just a sort of crazy driven sort of person who really believes in legalization and there has been so much involvement and work by so many other people that has gotten us here. We are just terribly fortunate and we know that more than anyone else. All along the main reason I had to do this was to be a part of paving that way....really it was just such a big deal to me as it is to most of the people on this message board I would imagine, to see weed legal. Not that it really is true legalization, but it sure as hell is a start and hopefully each state that does come on board will do better and better until we really have something eventually! It so could have turned to disaster for us.....really it could have.....and I just thank all the weed gods.....all the wonderfully giving people that have helped us.....my amazing kids who stuck it out working 7 day work weeks 10 plus hour days and put up with me and all my talking talking talking about nothing but weed and how we could manage to do this......and everything else that has cosmically aligned or whatever happened in each and every step that went right to get us here:) I know I say it all the time but man o man it is just freaking incredible!

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Amen!!!!

@inthegorge So I was watching the great pot debate last nite in Oregon townhall last nite ! As a non resident anyone can come and open up shop in Oregon . Does this mean there buds can cross state lines (wash) and sell to a disp here . There are some loop holes in the law not sure about. . Thanks M