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Looks like some serious nanners in pic 4 and 5.

OrganicGanja said:

Looks like some serious nanners in pic 4 and 5.

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Boy?

mevius said:

Boy?

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And girl ;)

By the looks of those plants I'd say herming was stress induced.

Indeed. I see strong signs of spider mite damage, as well as what may be either leafminers (not a problem in my experience) or thrips (something I do not have experience with).

Because you're observing the bananas (signs of hermaphrodite) so early, I would suggest cutting your losses and starting more plants. I have never had a good female flower out well if they start growing those bananas so early on, and often they'll begin growing fully male flowers and stop growing any female parts altogether.

Seamaiden said:

Indeed. I see strong signs of spider mite damage, as well as what may be either leafminers (not a problem in my experience) or thrips (something I do not have experience with).

Because you're observing the bananas (signs of hermaphrodite) so early, I would suggest cutting your losses and starting more plants. I have never had a good female flower out well if they start growing those bananas so early on, and often they'll begin growing fully male flowers and stop growing any female parts altogether.

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So what to do

Toaster79 said:

And girl ;)

By the looks of those plants I'd say herming was stress induced.

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:)

mevius said:

So what to do

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mevius said:

:)

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These plants appear to be in poor health, and are infested with spider mites. This may or may not have caused the expression of hermaphroditism, but my opinion on the matter is that the situation calls for killing these plants and starting new plants. You can try to pull them through but I am afraid that if they continue to make male flowers, you will end up with nothing that you can use.

The spider mites can be controlled in a variety of ways, I like to use isopropyl alcohol applied every 2-3 days, mixed at a 1:1 ratio with water. However, that is a control, it will take at least two weeks of such treatment to fully eradicate them. At the same time, your plants appear to be continuing to grow male flowers, which is not what you want.

Seamaiden said:

These plants appear to be in poor health, and are infested with spider mites. This may or may not have caused the expression of hermaphroditism, but my opinion on the matter is that the situation calls for killing these plants and starting new plants. You can try to pull them through but I am afraid that if they continue to make male flowers, you will end up with nothing that you can use.

The spider mites can be controlled in a variety of ways, I like to use isopropyl alcohol applied every 2-3 days, mixed at a 1:1 ratio with water. However, that is a control, it will take at least two weeks of such treatment to fully eradicate them. At the same time, your plants appear to be continuing to grow male flowers, which is not what you want.

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So they have no use?

They're hopeless

mevius said:

So they have no use?

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That is my experience with such plants, they have little to no use.

Seamaiden said:

That is my experience with such plants, they have little to no use.

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Strange, I was female beads branch, how there will be a hermaphrodite
Doubts ...
Under what circumstances would change his gender?

G gnome said:

They're hopeless

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Strange, I was female beads branch, how there will be a hermaphrodite
Doubts ...
Under what circumstances would change his gender?

mevius said:

Strange, I was female beads branch, how there will be a hermaphrodite
Doubts ...
Under what circumstances would change his gender?

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Yes, the branch is showing traits of both sexes, female pistils and the yellow things that look like bananas are... I believe they'd be called male anthers (I really do not know this botany stuff well). Thus, your plant is expressing intersexual, or hermaphroditic traits.

The problem you are presented with here is the timing of this expression. If the plant were almost finished flowering, then those male parts would not normally be a problem. However, by my eye, and I believe other growers will agree with me here, your plant appears to only be within the first month of flowering at most, I would say about 3 weeks in. Due to this timing, the chances are poor that it will continue to grow female parts, but will instead grow only those male parts, which are not usable.

There are many factors that may affect these types of phenotypic expressions.
Photoperiod (light leaks? has the timer gone off at the right time, consistently, through the plant's life?), disease and/or pests (the spider mites) and feeding problems may have an effect, but the general consensus is that the reasons ultimately reside in the plant's genes.
Some strains or varieties are simply more prone to hermaphroditism than others. Bag-seed for example (seeds you found in that baggie of weed), especially if there are very few, tend to indicate that a hermaphrodite was missed by the grower and pollinated the female flowers. These seeds can express hermaphroditism even more strongly than the parent stock.

And so it is difficult for anyone to say with any real certainty why your plants are doing this, we can only say that they are and what our experiences with such plants have been.

Seamaiden said:

Yes, the branch is showing traits of both sexes, female pistils and the yellow things that look like bananas are... I believe they'd be called male anthers (I really do not know this botany stuff well). Thus, your plant is expressing intersexual, or hermaphroditic traits.

The problem you are presented with here is the timing of this expression. If the plant were almost finished flowering, then those male parts would not normally be a problem. However, by my eye, and I believe other growers will agree with me here, your plant appears to only be within the first month of flowering at most, I would say about 3 weeks in. Due to this timing, the chances are poor that it will continue to grow female parts, but will instead grow only those male parts, which are not usable.

There are many factors that may affect these types of phenotypic expressions.
Photoperiod (light leaks? has the timer gone off at the right time, consistently, through the plant's life?), disease and/or pests (the spider mites) and feeding problems may have an effect, but the general consensus is that the reasons ultimately reside in the plant's genes.
Some strains or varieties are simply more prone to hermaphroditism than others. Bag-seed for example (seeds you found in that baggie of weed), especially if there are very few, tend to indicate that a hermaphrodite was missed by the grower and pollinated the female flowers. These seeds can express hermaphroditism even more strongly than the parent stock.

And so it is difficult for anyone to say with any real certainty why your plants are doing this, we can only say that they are and what our experiences with such plants have been.

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Understand, thank you