Guardian Users Beware

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Junk

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That is a bummer. Check out mite-rid. It's expensive, but it works & plants will love you for it. It makes a good amount of product.
 
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CelticEBE said:
During some insomnia Facebook scrolling I happened upon a warning about Guardian. Apparently it has been pulled off the shelves in Oregon. The owner has claimed to have not known that the formula was switched, then comes back and says that an ingredient was left off the list.

Sounds pretty shady to me.

http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2016/01/oregon_flags_potential_problem.html
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I was just about to post this in the Oregon forum...if you don't mind I will.
 
CelticEBE

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Junk said:
That is a bummer. Check out mite-rid. It's expensive, but it works & plants will love you for it. It makes a good amount of product.
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I use Green Clean, but have not had issue with the borg since I relocated to NorCal. I have NO PLANS to take in new cuts, and I let NO ONE into my rooms anymore.


Seamaiden said:
People need to read labels, they need to buy ONLY properly labeled 'cides' AND they need to learn that the term 'natural' doesn't mean a fucking thing, legally and in terms of labeling. This comes as no surprise to me.
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Yeah, the label and msds have NO MENTION of abamectin whatsoever. I guess he got one by on Oregon for a little bit, as I know they have very strict label laws.
 
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fishwhistle

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Labeling laws are so bizzare in most states now that you cant put the real ingredients on the label without incurring hundreds of thousands of dollars in testing and even that is no guarantee they will allow sales.Not defending this practice at all,just saying the states are causing it and no one besides super corporations can afford the process,sound like something their lobbyists may have come up with?
Some california companies cannot even sell their products in the state they are made in,organic or not.All of this adds up to us not knowing whats really in a product and some less than ohnest companies being able to take advantage of the situation,also many good and honest companies caught up in the middle.
 
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Ya, i want what you're smoking if you've figured out how to spread the blame from some scumbag lying profiteer to the very agencies that have found out his nefarious plot to poison sick patients with his magic water. This is no different form those nuts who used to poison headache pills in the supermarkets and i hope this asshole ends up broke and in jail.
 
CelticEBE

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So apparently someone knew.......
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CelticEBE

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Savage Henry said:
That raises an interesting point. You would think any grower worth their salt would know that a truly organic or "natural" product won't kill all mites with a single application.

Think of all the pesticide-resistant mites this has bred.
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Or all the "Organic" flowers out there that people are smoking right now.

I could be wrong.....but I think Organicnomad is the owner of NFTG.
 
Seamaiden

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fishwhistle said:
Labeling laws are so bizzare in most states now that you cant put the real ingredients on the label without incurring hundreds of thousands of dollars in testing and even that is no guarantee they will allow sales.Not defending this practice at all,just saying the states are causing it and no one besides super corporations can afford the process,sound like something their lobbyists may have come up with?
Some california companies cannot even sell their products in the state they are made in,organic or not.All of this adds up to us not knowing whats really in a product and some less than ohnest companies being able to take advantage of the situation,also many good and honest companies caught up in the middle.
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100% truth. However, I personally appreciate that we have the laws in place, along with the paper trails required.
 
leadsled

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@Kendo was endorsing that product and spraying that crap unprotected! DOWH. Hope your ok !

CelticEBE said:
Or all the "Organic" flowers out there that people are smoking right now.

I could be wrong.....but I think Organicnomad is the owner of NFTG.
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He does seem to be associated with him.
He works as a consultant (installing bluemat systems) and endorses/recommends there products.

Not the first time it will happen not the last. Got to look out for pesticides "natural ingredients" PGRS. Lots of shadyness
yellow bottles is another product that was claimed to be organic and they were hiding paclobuterol in the product.
 
We Solidarity

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STOP USING HOBBY LEVEL BULLSHIT MADE BY AMATEURS. THIS IS NOT SUPRISING, AND IT IS NOT UNCOMMON. THE "HYDRO" INDUSTRY IS FULL OF ARROGANT PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TO TAX THEIR FELLOW GROWERS. EVERYONE SEES DOLLAR SIGNS. NUTRIENTS AND PESTICIDES ARE THE CHEAPEST INPUTS TO YOUR GARDEN YET ARE THE MOST OVERPRICED AND OVERLOOKED OF ANY COMPONENT.
 
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