Random Plants In Room Not Swelling

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Ok, I just hit week 7 on a full room of Alien Grenades and random plants are not filling out. I have 18 plants under 4 1000s. About half of them look great, the other half are frosty as hell, but have super tiny buds that aren't filling out. Last time I ran this strain I thought I was feeding too much nitrogen. But I cut back a lot this run. It sort of looks like reveg but there's no way.
I'm in coco, ph and ppms are good, no bugs that I can see. I just started noticing some yellowing/dying leaves on the plants with the most filled out buds. I'm at a loss right now. If anyone can think of anything please chime in.
The first few photos are of the plants that look ok. The others are the ones that aren't filling out. It almost looks like there's two different phenos but everything was taken from the same mom.

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Classic Broad mite infestation, get ready for some pain...
 
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rascali said:
Classic Broad mite infestation, get ready for some pain...
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not true at all, disregard the fuck out of this post.

I've had that happen with some strains before, I believe it is overwatering. I deal with it a lot on a particular strain, blackberry kush, I started letting them have a lot more of a dry cycle (not the point where they're wilting but paying more attention to how dry the pot is and waiting for them to be properly dry with no dark moisture spots). Watering that particular strain that way from the beginning of the cycle solved that for me, so I've always attributed the tiny frosted growth with lots of internodal growth with overwatering. Seems to happen more with purple strains.
 
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not true at all, disregard the fuck out of this post.

I've had that happen with some strains before, I believe it is overwatering. I deal with it a lot on a particular strain, blackberry kush, I started letting them have a lot more of a dry cycle (not the point where they're wilting but paying more attention to how dry the pot is and waiting for them to be properly dry with no dark moisture spots). Watering that particular strain that way from the beginning of the cycle solved that for me, so I've always attributed the tiny frosted growth with lots of internodal growth with overwatering. Seems to happen more with purple strains.
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Good call and I think your right! I've had this happen few times before and it's always the weaker rooted plants that do this.
 
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Definitely not broad mites, far too healthy. Broad mites impede resin production significantly as well. You know you have them when around week 3 when you should be seeing lovely fluffy white pistils forming they show up black.

That being said, I had similar symptoms as you with a headband pheno I ran last year. I attributed it to topping them 2 weeks into 12/12.

I would check the runoff ec and compare it to what you're feeding at. Maybe they're holding onto/getting too much of something.
 
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Gotta confirm overwatering on this one. I literally today am letting a handful of plants dry out. They have that exact same growth as you pictured. Only 4 plants out of 60 showing symptoms u pictured and they happen to be the only four who's grow bags never dry out. The rest do.
 
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overwatering would make sense, the plants that are doing the best were totally drying out. the only thing that has me a little confused is how the leaves on all the shitty ones are praying super hard. dont leaves usually get clawed if over watered?
 
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On my plants that are like that the bottom leaves are quite droopy while the tops are doing the praying thing.
I think once roots are established the plant will live but not thrive in to wet of media. I think they are on the border and if overwatered more would show even more droop. I think they are saying give us a chance were not to far gone :) let us dry out!

I have 8 strains all with the same foot print. Some get bone dry before I water, others could go alittle longer but I can't be watering 4 times a day. So gotta find the balance. It can be a pain..
 
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Good call and I think your right! I've had this happen few times before and it's always the weaker rooted plants that do this.
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I think anybody who has seen your room can sa y you have had this happen more than a few times. You flower out Dud after dud, and wonder why you loose 10%+ every crop. You ever fix that problem? Until you do, stop giving others bad advice.
 
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I think anybody who has seen your room can sa y you have had this happen more than a few times. You flower out Dud after dud, and wonder why you loose 10%+ every crop. You ever fix that problem? Until you do, stop giving others bad advice.
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this is definitely not a dud symptom - if anything the affected flowers are way more potent/tasty than normal, the yeild just disappears. At first I thought it was the clones i'm taking but def has to do more with how wet the pots are when you're watering...continual but mild overwatering in soilless media.
 
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ya definitely not a dud problem, my last round i pulled 7 units off 4 lights, no co2. the cut was gifted to me by a well known member on the farm and hes never had a dud problem.
its definitely overwatering, the ones that didnt swell were always a little damp. i fucked up. oh well, theres still some nice colas and the small nugs are dense as fuck, almost looks like a cookies pheno
 
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Bulldog is a bit uneducated in the sense of growing and problem solving. Sorry for his non sense for he has no clue lol
 
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this is definitely not a dud symptom - if anything the affected flowers are way more potent/tasty than normal, the yeild just disappears. At first I thought it was the clones i'm taking but def has to do more with how wet the pots are when you're watering...continual but mild overwatering in soilless media.
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I was talking to growgod, I wouldn't listen to him. He can't even grow a healthy crop
 
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I also give good advice. Look at GrowGod's post in this thread. He is obviously guessing. The fact that he runs crop after crop with dud genetics and bugs proves nobody should really listen.

Anybody mention that plant looks overdosed on N?
 
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I also give good advice. Look at GrowGod's post in this thread. He is obviously guessing. The fact that he runs crop after crop with dud genetics and bugs proves nobody should really listen.

Anybody mention that plant looks overdosed on N?
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Allny info came from this guy
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this is definitely not a dud symptom - if anything the affected flowers are way more potent/tasty than normal, the yeild just disappears. At first I thought it was the clones i'm taking but def has to do more with how wet the pots are when you're watering...continual but mild overwatering in soilless media.
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We Solidarity said:
this is definitely not a dud symptom - if anything the affected flowers are way more potent/tasty than normal, the yeild just disappears. At first I thought it was the clones i'm taking but def has to do more with how wet the pots are when you're watering...continual but mild overwatering in soilless media.
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Did you notice a head-ache when smoking plants with these symptoms?
 
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hey were you meaning these plants looked like they have too much N or was that directed at the other dude?
i basically cut out all N after week 3 because of the same issue last round, just not as sever as this, the only N they are getting is from the little bit in my cal mag. the ones that are putting out big colas are yellowing because of the lack of N and the ones that are not swelling are green as fuck. maybe too much nitrogen stuck in the medium since theyre always damp??? im just guessing
i just hit week 8, so theyre just getting RO water for the next few weeks so now they should ALL start yellowing. hopefully the weird ones will fill out a little more with just plain water.
ive also cut back on watering, i was watering for 60 sec on each pot every other day, now im doing 15-30 sec every day.
thanks again
 
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