veg+bloom, 1 part powder in socal tap

Natural said:

just getting my feet wet with VB Dirty using RO in peat. Anybody know the rub on why directions suggest starting with .2-.3 EC water? Does the stuff not mix well in O EC or does it not contain enough Cal? Trying to justify pre-charging the RO with CalMag or hanging up the RO for a dechlorinator.
@Rootbound or whoever RO and No Cal?

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Not sure i have seen where it says that at. I will take a look at my tub. Are you sure they dont mean start off with no more than .2/.3 ec?

Natural said:

just getting my feet wet with VB Dirty using RO in peat. Anybody know the rub on why directions suggest starting with .2-.3 EC water? Does the stuff not mix well in O EC or does it not contain enough Cal? Trying to justify pre-charging the RO with CalMag or hanging up the RO for a dechlorinator.
@Rootbound or whoever RO and No Cal?

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I just use a dechlorinator myself,no issues.

Rootbound said:

Not sure i have seen where it says that at. I will take a look at my tub. Are you sure they dont mean start off with no more than .2/.3 ec?

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Ya I have to use a magnifying glass..lol. But it says at the bottom of Directions..
"Note: If your starting water is below .2 EC add in tap water to bring EC up to .2-.3 EC before adding in Veg+Bloom Powder."

fishwhistle said:

I just use a dechlorinator myself,no issues.

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That sounds great Fish..I'm a bit concerned about cysts and ph buffers that are added to the tap..needed to hear people having success. My tap comes out at .3 EC..not quite sure how a de-chlorinator will affect that..but I'm slowly convincing myself to try it out. This powder is exactly the change up I've been looking for

You can use 0ppm ro but the ph is more stable with some residual alkalinity. Fertilizers are acidic so it helps keep your media ph in range.

ill eagle said:

You can use 0ppm ro but the ph is more stable with some residual alkalinity. Fertilizers are acidic so it helps keep your media ph in range.

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roger that..ya low EC solution is a bitch to PH..have to use drops to adjust..makes perfect sense thanks. It was hard to wrap my head around needing Cal or Mag when there is so much listed already. I'm a loyal aact user so looks like de-chlorinator will be my best bet..maybe add UV..not sure

@Natural
Have you considered just using a two stage filter? I run my well water through a big blue and a UV, but I'm also running a combo of tap and dirty and I'm in coco.

There is a RO formulation as well

CelticEBE..how goes it? That sounds like what I wanna do..been eyeing the Big Blue filters. I used to be on well when I started and had the 2 stage whole house hooked up. Been running RO for years and keeping a stock rez. Dechlorinator and UV (uv worth it for tap..I dunno?)would streamline my efforts and cost less..I'm seriously considering it. I'd like to stick with peat and Dirty and see how much dialing I can do with production. Right now with RO and OSA28 I come out to 5.7-5.8 ph and would rather come in 6 or higher without adjusting. guess I'll have to get set up and see what it do. I run a perpetual so my reggie is already complicated lol

Ya know guys the first week feeding nothing but Dirty and the one thing I noticed besides them "acting" happy pointing leaves...they are drinking a whole lot quicker and even across all different plants. Biobizz//GO tend to sit in the soil and plants drink it up un-evenly. I'll wait till I get a couple good harvests in before I decide..but so far I'm loving this stuff.

Whatever water quality you choose you have to mix, agitate, pH to around 5.8 and stabilize for 15-30 minutes. The pH swings in that first 15 minutes in a warm room so keep temp in mind.

ill eagle said:

Whatever water quality you choose you have to mix, agitate, pH to around 5.8 and stabilize for 15-30 minutes. The pH swings in that first 15 minutes in a warm room so keep temp in mind.

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It's gonna be Ro for a week or 2 at least. I'll do some experimenting. My usual is to pump ave of 65-72 degree tepid water over to flower room and mix up and feed. I use it all up and don't store nutrient solution. I like to float in between 6 and 6.5 for peat. I'll be sure and give it a good 15 minutes and observe the swing. Thanks for the input!

I could work it out to where I'm mixing in the stock room and pump nute solution over to flower..but I'll see how the swing goes first

Has anyone used plus size in their res with an air stone and noticed a bunch of foam? I just got +size and this has been happening.

Also does anyone run a sterline res and know if this will effect the +size? I believe it's all inorganic material so the bleach can't really kill anything

I used air stones back when it first came out and noticed the same thing. I don't use air stones at all anymore. I asked what the foam was about and was told its caused by the saponin extract in the product. Btw haven't noticed any difference not using air stones. I'm pretty sure it is unecessary. Keep it easy.

been checking in on this thread every now and again. Been thinking on giving this stuff a go round but I have a couple questions for y'all before I commit so sorry for throwing the wrench in the machine. My question isn't does it work y'all crushing that's a fact.
So here we go... Been running doseatrons for a minute now and the ease and covience I don't think I can go back. So can you mix this powder into a bottle so I can easily run it through my dosers? Also I don't need to ph currently and don't really want to make expensive changes to my system.

The Terps said:

been checking in on this thread every now and again. Been thinking on giving this stuff a go round but I have a couple questions for y'all before I commit so sorry for throwing the wrench in the machine. My question isn't does it work y'all crushing that's a fact.
So here we go... Been running doseatrons for a minute now and the ease and covience I don't think I can go back. So can you mix this powder into a bottle so I can easily run it through my dosers? Also I don't need to ph currently and don't really want to make expensive changes to my system.

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Each solution mixed is good for about a week.
They recommend to not make a concentration of solution.
If you want a discount PM me.

Thanks smokey but that ends my desire to use it. If they recommend not making a liquid concentrate and I now see it has some living stuff in there probably why. It seems to be the hot ticket but like I said the doseatrons are my favorite thing so I'll leave you guys to crushing it with that powder I'll keep on paying the bills with my mills simply cause it comes in a bottle. Veg+bloom if your reading this hint hint

The Terps said:

Thanks smokey but that ends my desire to use it. If they recommend not making a liquid concentrate and I now see it has some living stuff in there probably why. It seems to be the hot ticket but like I said the doseatrons are my favorite thing so I'll leave you guys to crushing it with that powder I'll keep on paying the bills with my mills simply cause it comes in a bottle. Veg+bloom if your reading this hint hint

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I'm pretty sure Chris recommends not making a stock solution because of potential fallout, not because of microbials. I forget who it was, but someone on here was playing around with making stock solutions a while back. You may want to read through the thread to see who it was to see if it worked out for them.

just an observation..this stuff is highly hygroscopic. I'm gonna ziplock baggie what I think I'll use weekly. Scoop will turn dark sitting in open air. How is everyone else storing?
..still loving it

Natural said:

just an observation..this stuff is highly hygroscopic. I'm gonna ziplock baggie what I think I'll use weekly. Scoop will turn dark sitting in open air. How is everyone else storing?
..still loving it

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I keep mine in a 3 gallon bucket with a Gamma Seal lid. Like this......

CelticEBE said:

I keep mine in a 3 gallon bucket with a Gamma Seal lid. Like this......

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hahaha..yaaa boys doin work. That's what I'll do, store the bulk in something sealed like good tupperware and my weekly in a smaller one. I don't trust the package bucket at all. We got high Rh right now..check out the bag ring.