Couple Issues, With Pics Need Help.

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I have moved recently and my PH meter took a crap so i just went blind for a bit.
I was using a 30/30/30 mix ( coco/ Pro mix/ Perlite) with some dry ferts mixed in, these pics are what happened.

I dont know if its fungus issue or what, but whole plants have died starting from the bottom to the top.

I used a very weak bleach solution in the soil with the plants that are left in soil/coco/perlite. (Any plants that are left in soil when done the soil mix is being tossed as well.)
Then I did some physan foilar sprays. After the bleach in the soil mix i did see leaves start to point upward again.

I went back to coco and perlite only.

But these symptoms are on all the plants that where in the soil mix so far i haven't seen the same on anything coco, only the what looks like cal/mag and some of the seedlings jiffy pellets dryed out and i think those that dropped and wilted are done for.

Here is the soil coco perlite fert mix pics. I cut the stalk and dont see any of the darkenening that is supposed to come with fusarium.


Now i started some seedlings, in jiffy pellets and finally grabbed 2 PH meters, the water was at PH 8.0 450 ppm from tap.

All kinds of screwy shit could have happened but below is a pic of what im trying to figure out with some of the seedlings drooping. Also these seedlings did not do this till the room they where in hit 93 Degs for a few days. They are now in a 72-75 Deg room and im waiting for the coco to dry up a bit before i add a cal mag treatment.

P.S. The plant in this pic first 3 photos, was 2 ft tall in a red solo cup.

Any ideas Fungus, TO many PH swings with Locks outs on the larger plant?
Seedling cal mag ?
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Another thing i wanted to add, all plants have res tables, I water the table and let them sit an absorb the water.
The seedlings are in the little black flower trays and i did the same with the peat pellets.

Could this be as simple as root rot with PH issues ?
 
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Well it used to be RO PHd water and never had problems.
Then it was tap water on a cold floor. Started to see issues.


Now im waiting for recovery, Got RO machine again and some new Meters.ordered some mycostop going to introduce some healthy bacteria to try and take over any bad stuff.
 
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A ph of 8 on your water is high. What ph is your soil?
Using bleach in the soil, especially on an existing plant seems dangerous. At the least, it will kill beneficial micro organisms along with unwanted fungus. The bleach will break down into salts which might add to your troubles.
The stalk that you split to check for problems...Was that done to a plant you are trying to save? Have they been transplanted out of solo cups? I am glad to see you are apparently not a quitter!
 
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I Now have RO Water ph to 6.0. and about 50 ppm of cal mag added to the water before anything is even added during feedings.

The red solo cups where all clones, i had over load. The plant i cut was just to show a pic. not to save,
The soil mix of the plants Before like the one in the red solo cup was PRO mix, coco , perlite and ammedments ( lots guano kelp ect.. at 1 cup per 4 cu feet.)


The old room was poor lighting just a holding room. The plants where all watered by tray 3x3 foot 3 gallons of water most of the time they would suck it up over night. That room usually was about 80-85F 38% RH but it got up to 93 for a few nights and i moved them.

The new room is a basement and the RH is so high it makes me really scared with a Dehumidifier 65% without 77% temps are 77F


The Mix is Coco and some perlite. The new mix Just now started get Ph adjust RO water. with a weak fert solution of 500ppm for the clones. The clones are getting 300 watts of LED and 600 watts of HPS.

My goal is to save the clones and seedlings and start all new mothers and toss everything in the old mix.

Here are pictures of the clones and seedlings.

They started drooping the past few days during the whole room change and just got a feeding today Raw complete grow fert with trace elements 500 ppm.
 
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