What's The Problem ??

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mr.green666

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Ok Title says it all really what do you thinks wrong with this plant ???

Medium : coco / perlite mix

Nutrients : canna coco a & b - 2.5 mls to every litre
Rhizotonic - 1ml To every litre
Plant magic calmag - 1ml to every litre

Background ec.04

Nutrients mixed to 8 litre of water ph 5.8 - 6.2 and EC including background ec 1.8 minus background ec 1.4

Handwatering every other day with 20% runoff .

runoff ph always between 5.8-6.2

i though Maybe mag def just checking For more opinions thanks in advance Mr.green

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Toaster79

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A bit too much N and too little Mg. Try foliar Epsom at 1/4 tsp/gal, you should see the difference in a matter of hours. If that doesn't do the trick, Fe would be my next guess.
 
mr.green666

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I've already been foliar feeding a mag spary once a week do you think daily Spraying
Is needed ??

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Toaster79 said:
Youve got quite some Cl and Na in your water. That might well be the culprit.
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I thought that was a small amount and wouldn't effect the growth im no expert thou.I tried a cheap reverse osmosis filter from ebay but my tap water here is so hard that the filter only gets it down to 0.5 that's why I'm currently useing bottled water with an ec of 0.4 maybe it's time to buy a more expensive water system if I can't fix the issue.
 
We Solidarity

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Your water is fine amigo. Looks like you've got enough calcium and magnesium in it to not have to add more, esp with canna as a base.

But the cal mag isn't your problem, just very unnecessary. The rhizo daily is your culprit- rhizo is just weak ass super diluted urea with some fulvic and micros, the constant addition of urea is dropping your ph low enough to start locking shit out. Ammoniacal N isn't something to constantly feed your plants, it's not a healthy form of nitrogen and is ok for a quick boost, but constant feeding always leads to problems starting with what looks like an mg def.
 
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Thanks for reply man how would proceed from here to get the girls looking healthy again ? I've always thought that it was ok to feed with rhizo every watering whilst in veg would you recommend cutting the calmag to every other watering or cut it
Out completely. I read somewhere that plants in coco can be real cal mag whores thanks in advance Mr green
 
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All those things called additive's are just that weekly at best and no riso after week 2 of veg switch to a reservoir additive called cannazyme. Again weekly and doesn't need to be a heavy mix.
I mist my plants ever other day with Just PHed RO water. If we have no rain it cleans the pours.
I will say this when cloning I use riso every day in morning and just h20 evening with mister.
Clean up the bottom of that plant so air can move and add fan which will make the water leaves be smaller.
If you been adding riso every day flush plant with 25% nutrients and a bit of something sweet just a little and flush out very well then go back to 75% of what you were doing and wait and see.
If weed was as big as a tree it would make twice the O2 that said; It needs a bunch of moving air .
It also looks like has had wet feet do you put in catch pan when setting in the light and is there ever water standing in the pan for hours after you water it. Is big nonononono
 
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hermit186 said:
All those things called additive's are just that weekly at best and no riso after week 2 of veg switch to a reservoir additive called cannazyme. Again weekly and doesn't need to be a heavy mix.
I mist my plants ever other day with Just PHed RO water. If we have no rain it cleans the pours.
I will say this when cloning I use riso every day in morning and just h20 evening with mister.
Clean up the bottom of that plant so air can move and add fan which will make the water leaves be smaller.
If you been adding riso every day flush plant with 25% nutrients and a bit of something sweet just a little and flush out very well then go back to 75% of what you were doing and wait and see.
If weed was as big as a tree it would make twice the O2 that said; It needs a bunch of moving air .
It also looks like has had wet feet do you put in catch pan when setting in the light and is there ever water standing in the pan for hours after you water it. Is big nonononono
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Thanks for the advice I'll cut rhiz out from now on at week 2-3 of veg.they don't stand in any pans I water them over the bath lol with at least 20% runoff and I only water again once the pot is half the weight of what it was at watering
 
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I've cut both the rhiz and calmag out of today's watering so today they've had 1.5 ec with only canna a&b with a background EC 0.4 I'll update with pics in a few days
 
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mr.green666 said:
I've cut both the rhiz and calmag out of today's watering so today they've had 1.5 ec with only canna a&b with a background EC 0.4 I'll update with pics in a few days
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I am not familiar with adjusting EC relative to a background EC.

It is my understanding that EC is whatever you end up with, regardless of what you start with.
 
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