Male Identification

Bluedreaming said:

Started these from seeds, all of them look similar except for one. Need some help identifying. Also any advice what people do with them if it is a male? Dont plan on breeding.
Also how much time do I have to remove before it becomes a problem or is it not a problem till flower?

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Yes male flower .

Bluedreaming said:

Started these from seeds, all of them look similar except for one. Need some help identifying. Also any advice what people do with them if it is a male? Dont plan on breeding.
Also how much time do I have to remove before it becomes a problem or is it not a problem till flower?

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It's a male. Cut it down and trash it. Remove it soon do not to let any pollen loose.

Smerb said:

It's a male. Cut it down and trash it. Remove it soon do not to let any pollen loose.

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How long do I have before pollen becomes a problem? Can it affect other plants in their veg state?

Bluedreaming said:

How long do I have before pollen becomes a problem? Can it affect other plants in their veg state?

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The flower hasn't opened by the look I would not wait and it shouldn't hurt veg plants at all .

One drop said:

The flower hasn't opened by the look I would not wait and it shouldn't hurt veg plants at all .

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So chop it down and trash bag it? Can I put it in a separate room in the bag till I can make it to the dump or will pollen still be released? Also can pollen get on my clothes in this state and potentially seed fuck a different grow?

Bluedreaming said:

How long do I have before pollen becomes a problem? Can it affect other plants in their veg state?

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@One drop has it. It's really best to just get rid of it asap. It won't affect much today, unless some pollen is sitting in a corner and halfway through flower that corner poofs up and seeds are your harvest. Million to one probably .

Bluedreaming said:

So chop it down and trash bag it? Can I put it in a separate room in the bag till I can make it to the dump or will pollen still be released? Also can pollen get on my clothes in this state and potentially seed fuck a different grow?

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Yes bag that sucker a sap good thinking .

Smerb said:

@One drop has it. It's really best to just get rid of it asap. It won't affect much today, unless some pollen is sitting in a corner and halfway through flower that corner poofs up and seeds are your harvest. Million to one probably .

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Unless it's a killer strain and you want to save the pollen to do your own cross shit I'm so desperate for seed I would try to get some pollen stored .

going to chop it down now and bag it! Thanks so much for the insight guys, I'm gonna inspect the others some more too but from what I see they all look different and no nut sacks.

Bluedreaming said:

going to chop it down now and bag it! Thanks so much for the insight guys, I'm gonna inspect the others some more too but from what I see they all look different and no nut sacks.

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Giddy up and good luck mate keep us in the loop .

One drop said:

Giddy up and good luck mate keep us in the loop .

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The deed is done and I just checked the rest and I'm glad to say I found white haired pistals on all of em in around the same area the male had the pods.

Plan on flipping these soon to 12/12. I started on 24/0 then went down to 18/6 but had a few mishaps w/ their schedule and want to maintain the 18/6 for a week or so b4 flip.

Also I'm on the fence about topping these, this is my first grow and it's also soil and I've read that people recommend just letting them go all the way normal the first time around just for referencing.
But I've had some experience with cocoa and I've seen them fimmed and topped and turned into monsters with like 5-6 colas.

Would the insight and referencing of growing them natural all the way be worth it more then lower yields?
Would try and perfect topping on future grows, its been a learning curve for me.

Bluedreaming said:

The deed is done and I just checked the rest and I'm glad to say I found white haired pistals on all of em in around the same area the male had the pods.

Plan on flipping these soon to 12/12. I started on 24/0 then went down to 18/6 but had a few mishaps w/ their schedule and want to maintain the 18/6 for a week or so b4 flip.

Also I'm on the fence about topping these, this is my first grow and it's also soil and I've read that people recommend just letting them go all the way normal the first time around just for referencing.
But I've had some experience with cocoa and I've seen them fimmed and topped and turned into monsters with like 5-6 colas.

Would the insight and referencing of growing them natural all the way be worth it more then lower yields?
Would try and perfect topping on future grows, its been a learning curve for me.

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I'm on my 4th indoor and I think topping would be OK for them but there's better farmers than me lets see what they say .

Bluedreaming said:

The deed is done and I just checked the rest and I'm glad to say I found white haired pistals on all of em in around the same area the male had the pods.

Plan on flipping these soon to 12/12. I started on 24/0 then went down to 18/6 but had a few mishaps w/ their schedule and want to maintain the 18/6 for a week or so b4 flip.

Also I'm on the fence about topping these, this is my first grow and it's also soil and I've read that people recommend just letting them go all the way normal the first time around just for referencing.
But I've had some experience with cocoa and I've seen them fimmed and topped and turned into monsters with like 5-6 colas.

Would the insight and referencing of growing them natural all the way be worth it more then lower yields?
Would try and perfect topping on future grows, its been a learning curve for me.

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Topping at the right time will produce many tops. After flowering has been induced it's not wise to top at all, it only slows things down. I have topped right before flower one specific time and had single cola plants with triple tops, no branching . There are better farmers with better info for sure. Hope it'll help

One drop said:

Unless it's a killer strain and you want to save the pollen to do your own cross shit I'm so desperate for seed I would try to get some pollen stored .

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Me too!

I would put Ir in another room. Harvest the pollen and start clones of the other and when female flowers show take an artist Paint brush and polinate one of the tops and label that seeded top with paper or a piece of yarn and have some seeds for next year grow.

I wish I had seen this thread before you "chopped" Down the male plant" Since this is your first grow, your plants in the veg stage would not have been affected by male plants at that STAGE.

How many plants do you have? have you taken any clones?

Bluedreaming said:

The deed is done and I just checked the rest and I'm glad to say I found white haired pistals on all of em in around the same area the male had the pods.

Plan on flipping these soon to 12/12. I started on 24/0 then went down to 18/6 but had a few mishaps w/ their schedule and want to maintain the 18/6 for a week or so b4 flip.

Also I'm on the fence about topping these, this is my first grow and it's also soil and I've read that people recommend just letting them go all the way normal the first time around just for referencing.
But I've had some experience with cocoa and I've seen them fimmed and topped and turned into monsters with like 5-6 colas.

Would the insight and referencing of growing them natural all the way be worth it more then lower yields?
Would try and perfect topping on future grows, its been a learning curve for me.

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Relax. The plants may be polinated but not likely.

Girls mature faster than boys

Remove the make plant and check for open pollen sacks

nocollins2k said:

I wish I had seen this thread before you "chopped" Down the male plant" Since this is your first grow, your plants in the veg stage would not have been affected by male plants at that STAGE.

How many plants do you have? have you taken any clones?

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Yeah but for what purpose other then storing pollen, breeding a plant, and acquiring more seeds?
It felt good starting these from seed and watching them grow but I don't intend to do it forever.
I have a cloning tray with a built in bulb all the works and some clonex was package deal at a grow store.
Have yet to take clones off these I definitely intended too but a friend said they weren't mature enough so it's something I'll have to learn.
Definitely excited for the genetics tho, three of them are GG4 and other 3 are Bruce B.

Bluedreaming said:

Yeah but for what purpose other then storing pollen, breeding a plant, and acquiring more seeds?
It felt good starting these from seed and watching them grow but I don't intend to do it forever.
I have a cloning tray with a built in bulb all the works and some clonex was package deal at a grow store.
Have yet to take clones off these I definitely intended too but a friend said they weren't mature enough so it's something I'll have to learn.
Definitely excited for the genetics tho, three of them are GG4 and other 3 are Bruce B.

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I prefer to have 1 cola seeded so i can plant next years crop.

Harvest pollen abd use an artist paintbrush to polinated 1 top and Mark it with yarn piece of paper etc and let that top remain till the Seeds mature

Bluedreaming said:

Yeah but for what purpose other then storing pollen, breeding a plant, and acquiring more seeds?
It felt good starting these from seed and watching them grow but I don't intend to do it forever.
I have a cloning tray with a built in bulb all the works and some clonex was package deal at a grow store.
Have yet to take clones off these I definitely intended too but a friend said they weren't mature enough so it's something I'll have to learn.
Definitely excited for the genetics tho, three of them are GG4 and other 3 are Bruce B.

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Because so long as it stays in veg, pollination isn't a problem. So you pop the seeds, you stick labels in it, eg. GDP 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc

People usually take a cut, tag it, and put it in the cloner under 12/12, and it will show sex pretty quickly. Then you go back to the mom tent and mark the tag as male or female. Now you know the sex, and the plants can stay in veg together no problem. You can also flower only females. Some people flower them all together, and then pull the males. This leads to an inefficient run. A light covers only so many plants. You should know they are all girls when you put them to flower.

I have that same cloner set up you have. Just take a cut, keep the humidity up in the dome, and flip that flouro to 12/12. Then you know what's male and what's female without putting a whole plant into flower.

If you don't plan on collecting pollen, or having a breed tent, there isn't really a reason to collect males. But so long as they stay in veg, it doesn't matter. At least, I've never seen it matter. But in a mom tent, there is a constant cloning and culling going on. So maybe I've just never left a male in veg long enough for it to matter.

Also, you can do this when the plant is still very small, so you don't waste time potting up, wasting soil, nutes etc.

I see people put full plants into flower...topped, trained, LST, super crop, the whole 9. Then a week into flower, they have to pull it. It's a colossal waste of time. Sex it first, it's so easy and it saves a ton of work/resources.