Is This Broad Mites?

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Hi everyone,

I'm a new grower, and have a 6 week old plant that I have just put in a grow tent with a 200w CFL.
My plant was really healthy up until it went in the tent, and now all of a sudden the new growth is coming through all deformed and twisted, and some of the older leaves are curling at the tips. I've been doing some research and am pretty worried I have broad mites, can anyone confirm this?

Thank you in advance!
 
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Doesnt look like a pest problem, if you see no bugs there arent any, looks more like a soil problem to me. Did you transplant it? What kind of soil is it in? It looks more like a ph-soil, or root rot problem. Or even maybe a lighting problem, i only get snarled growth like that when I damage the roots or feed the plant wrong, id say let it sit for a week and if it persists use a flushing agent or transplant very carefully into queality soil
 
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Potassium deficiency and most likely a bit of overwatering. That small of a plant it's very unlikely that you have root rot. What are you feeding? Are you in soil? Are you ph ing your nutes? If your using nutes.
 
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You need a scope to know if there are any bugs or not. Just because you can't see them it DOES NOT mean they aren't there! You can see russets with the naked eye..
Turn a leaf over carefully by the stem and take a good look, they like to hide against the side of the vein that runs up the middle so you need to look from a couple of angles.. check every single leaf both sides.
If you do have them hit them sooner rather than later.
Pick at least 3 products and cycle them every 3 days for three weeks.

 
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Where was the tent from that you put the plant into? Had it just been used previously??
 
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You need a scope to know if there are any bugs or not. Just because you can't see them it DOES NOT mean they aren't there! You can see russets with the naked eye..
Turn a leaf over carefully by the stem and take a good look, they like to hide against the side of the vein that runs up the middle so you need to look from a couple of angles.. check every single leaf both sides.
If you do have them hit them sooner rather than later.
Pick at least 3 products and cycle them every 3 days for three weeks.

Neem does the trick but it has to be applied correctly. They estimate each generations cycle to be about 3 days. A high quality neem oil mixed with protekt and aloe applied every 3 days for 2 weeks will take care of them.

Neem has over 200 limoids that affect growth, appetite, and sexual functions. It also affects hormones and pheromones that basically tell the bugs how to live life.

It's not a contact killer and should be used as a weekly IPM foliar spray.

People don't understand the importance of the aloe. Its a wetting agent. It allows the water to soak rather than bead on the surface of your plant. The coverage is much better and you will get all those little nooks.

It also softens the outer tissue of the plant to allow for better uptake. Yes the plant can absorb neem oil. It just sits in the cell walls for about 2 weeks.

I only use dynagro neem oil or neem resource karanja oil. I don't even trust bonide on this one.

Not all neem is created equal.

Always apply with lights off.
 
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Organikz

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I wanted to add that I mix lemon grass oil to cover that rank smell and it also helps deter gnats and it's another element to fuck with the mites.

I basically want to get the little bastards back for my plants. Turn the tables and stress them out from all angles.

Foliar shouldn't be applied to flowers.
 
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I have recently transplanted it, and I used pretty standard compost with fairly high nutrients. The ph is about 7 at the moment, and I have only provided nutes twice to the plant at quite low amounts as I'm not 100% sure what to do with nutes. The transplant seemed pretty perfect and I did it late in the evening to avoid any damage to the roots.

Temps don't get that high in my tent, and I do the hand test to ensure the lamp isn't too close.

I guess it probably is a nutrient defficiency as I don't really know what I'm doing!
 
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I have recently transplanted it, and I used pretty standard compost with fairly high nutrients. The ph is about 7 at the moment, and I have only provided nutes twice to the plant at quite low amounts as I'm not 100% sure what to do with nutes. The transplant seemed pretty perfect and I did it late in the evening to avoid any damage to the roots.

Temps don't get that high in my tent, and I do the hand test to ensure the lamp isn't too close.

I guess it probably is a nutrient defficiency as I don't really know what I'm doing!
Organic? You mentioned compost?
 
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Also, I've looked up potassium deficiency and it doesn't look like what's going on with my plant, as it isn't really yellowing etc, just the last couple of sets of leaves look messed up. The older leaves seem to have changed to a darker green, and seem more leathery than they did before as well.
 
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Also, I've looked up potassium deficiency and it doesn't look like what's going on with my plant, as it isn't really yellowing etc, just the last couple of sets of leaves look messed up. The older leaves seem to have changed to a darker green, and seem more leathery than they did before as well.
Weird. The compost must have been a little hot. Nitrogen tox.

When it comes to potassium, calcium, magnesium, iron and sulfur they all work together so if one takes a hit they all do.

During nitrogen tox I've had different strains show different deficiencies while in the same container. One showed obvious clawing and deformed growth and the other showed the mag defficiency you're referring to.

A gypsum/Kelp meal top dress will soak some of that nitrogen up if you're all organic. Water in with aloe to help those minerals penetrate the soil.
 
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Weird. The compost must have been a little hot. Nitrogen tox.

When it comes to potassium, calcium, magnesium, iron and sulfur they all work together so if one takes a hit they all do.

During nitrogen tox I've had different strains show different deficiencies while in the same container. One showed obvious clawing and deformed growth and the other showed the mag defficiency you're referring to.

A gypsum/Kelp meal top dress will soak some of that nitrogen up if you're all organic. Water in with aloe to help those minerals penetrate the soil.
Thank you :) would you be able to point me in the right direction for a decent brand of gypsum meal? And could you advise of a good type of soil I could get, along with decent nutrients? I don't think the nutes I have are very good, and they are for hard water when I have soft water in my area.
 
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Thank you :) would you be able to point me in the right direction for a decent brand of gypsum meal? And could you advise of a good type of soil I could get, along with decent nutrients? I don't think the nutes I have are very good, and they are for hard water when I have soft water in my area.
That's quite the question. Here's the answer a question with a question...what style are you looking for? Organics has water only ammended super soil (pre built would be best for you), bottled organic nutrient lines, Neptunes harvest (simply bottled liquid fish feed and liquid Kelp), and there's no till where the concept is big containers. We grow the soil not the plant.

You are going to want to do research. How much time do you have to play mad scientist or do you want simple? Do you want to control different stages or let nature take care of it?

Once it's said and done if you discover no till you will be hooked. Look at my journal in my signature. There are some very good no till gardeners on these forums.

It takes work to get the system going but once going it's a set it and forget it. You utilize the soil food web and never throw out your soil. You use worms to develop it into a richer and richer substrate.
 
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If the tent is new that would be my first guess, ime, tents need to be off gassed. I like to keep a light on for a good week with no plants inside, I've seen a few new tents almost crush new crops in the past.
 
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If the tent is new that would be my first guess, ime, tents need to be off gassed. I like to keep a light on for a good week with no plants inside, I've seen a few new tents almost crush new crops in the past.
Why would the tent be causing the issue?
 
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Why would the tent be causing the issue?
Honestly im not sure if it's some sort of layer or glue or what it is, but I've seen it enough with new tents to know something is up with some of them.
 
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