Leaves growing out of top of buds?

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I've never seen this before besides revegging, but I have no light leaks and only some of the plants are effected. The leaves are growing out of the top of the buds on the top of the plant. The only things changed in this grow are a switch from Dutch master to cultured solutions nutrients and the implementation of desert squirrels defoliation techniques. Only the WW and PP seem to be effected, I also have C99 in the system which is not showing this abnormal growth. Ph has been maintained with a 5.5-6.2 swing.
Please help with any suggestions
 
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Seamaiden

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That looks 100% like a re-vegging plant to me. I would check for light leaks and double-check the timers to make certain nothing's gone off. Otherwise, if the only change is the feeding program, then I would examine that.
 
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Double check your timers - if they're good my best guess is defoliating too early, or some other stress that's making your plant re-veg (which could also be the plant converting into a full-blown hermie...i've seen this happen to stressed plants with weak genetics)
 
Classic Remix

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Make sure there is no random lights in there s well.

My ac has a blue LED that lights up the whole fuckin room when its not covered. Ive seen stuff as small as the light on an extension cord do problems.

Or you have a shotty pheno.
 
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Gromedibud

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The room is pitch black , and the timer seems to be functioning fine. I've looked for hermies and haven't been able to find any. I have been running into a root issue with my other system that I have t been able to resolve yet but these plants haven't been effected much by that because they had a stronger root mass.
Could it be a root issue that could of caused this. I think I have a problem with my water supply that is getting through my RO and is immune to chlorine.
 
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Gromedibud

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Defoliating to early? I ve never done it before and did it right before and 2 weeks after flip.
 
Classic Remix

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It sounds like all the bases are checked.

Is this a tried cut?? Cause it may just suck. Haha. If youve seen it not do that before... Then obviously somethings up
 
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Gromedibud

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Ya they all came off of mothers that I've done before. I've scrapped my other system twice in the past 5 weeks because of root issues. Ill take pictures of the roots when the lights turn back on.
I seem to have hit a wall with the under current but I ll figure it out eventually. I ve been spending hours on these boards reading everything lately. A lot of good info here.
 
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Gromedibud

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Def not to hot lol maybe a little cold during dark cycle. It might be to much N I'm thinking from the cal mag . I looked into the triacontanol but can't find of its in any of the cultured solutions , I see its used in other bud boosters.
 
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IMO re-vegging has alot to do with the amount of light it receives during the dark cycle, basically, the strength of the light and how long it shines on your plants, I also think genetics have a role to play.

I've had a closet grow with minor light leaks and I grew the same strain in there for about 9 months. It re-vegged 1 time because the closet door was left open when the bedroom light was on for about 10-15 minutes, that was last year. With my new setup in a basement, my plants are in week 5 and they had a 600w light turn on at the 11th hour for 2-3 minutes, then a week later the light came on during the 9th hour for 1-2 minutes. About a week or so after that the fucking light stayed on for an extra 3 hours, so it had 15 hours of light instead of 12. So I gave them the normal 12 hours of light and kept the cycle going 12/12 from there.

All that shit happened within a 15-20 day period during flower, but they still did not re-veg (fingers crossed). The plant that did re-veg was from GreenHouse Seed Co, which I've heard almost nothing but bad things about. The plants I'm growing now that did not re-veg after all those random timer malfunctions are from a better seed company, which IMO has better, stronger genetics. Thats just my experience of plants re-vegging FWIW.

I honestly can't think of anything that would cause your plants to re-veg other then whats already been posted on this thread. I guess you could just double/triple check for light leaks and timer malfunctions, good luck and hopefully it doesn't happen again.
 
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Gromedibud

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I figured it out , def to much N with the cal mag and the cs nutrients. Flushing now , thanks for the help I'm going to just stick with the DM nutes which I had dialed in already from now on.
 
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Thanks for sharing.
How did they turn out after you made the adjustments? I am seeing the same issue in week 5.
Did you turn off the leaves that protruded from the buds?
Thanks!
 
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I do uc and find 200 to 400 ppm is most I can run. I run a big set with 8000 gph of current and 400 lpm air, and I can't get above 500 with my hungriest plant. If ur burning roots, pythium is next. I run Heisenberg tea and will never quit. Only stating this because u mentioned root issues.
 
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Some genetix will reveg at the slightest thing.like a very small power on light on a grow room heater or anything.iv found chems inparticular are very susceptable to light stress and reveg.
i also grow in a grow cupboard.one of the better ones and i struggled for a good while with light leaks.you may have one and you dont THINK you do.like i did.maybe cover the inside walls and corners off said cupboard with black out and mylar may help.good luck
 
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I’ve got the same thing happening to a cpl of my plants which are all from back seeds but I know why it’s happening to my plants...stress~I’ve stressed them out by using defoliation and I’ve stressed them with too much light & heat as well. I upgraded to 1000w hps right before flowering and followed bad info found in the forums as far as how close I could get to my light. I also don’t have adequate cooling for such a powerful light so I’m positive it’s the plants response to stress that’s causing it
The room is pitch black , and the timer seems to be functioning fine. I've looked for hermies and haven't been able to find any. I have been running into a root issue with my other system that I have t been able to resolve yet but these plants haven't been effected much by that because they had a stronger root mass.
Could it be a root issue that could of caused this. I think I have a problem with my water supply that is getting through my RO and is immune to chlorine.
 
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I’ve got the same thing happening to a cpl of my plants which are all from back seeds but I know why it’s happening to my plants...stress~I’ve stressed them out by using defoliation and I’ve stressed them with too much light & heat as well. I upgraded to 1000w hps right before flowering and followed bad info found in the forums as far as how close I could get to my light. I also don’t have adequate cooling for such a powerful light so I’m positive it’s the plants response to stress that’s causing it
What week flower? This old thread but. And are you 100% sure there is nothing going on with light leaks or off timing ect ? No way plant can be confused by light somewhere.
I’ve had light leaks n never had any negatives but could cause hermie it possibly reveg. Too many hours light will cause reveg. Usually it’s hard to get flowering plant to reveg though.takes time. That’s why back to first question how many weeks in are you? And assuming 12/12 is your flower schedule?
 
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What week flower? This old thread but. And are you 100% sure there is nothing going on with light leaks or off timing ect ? No way plant can be confused by light somewhere.
I’ve had light leaks n never had any negatives but could cause hermie it possibly reveg. Too many hours light will cause reveg. Usually it’s hard to get flowering plant to reveg though.takes time. That’s why back to first question how many weeks in are you? And assuming 12/12 is your flower schedule?
Always possibility of genetics but I doubt that. These are new leaves? Not older sugar leaves that gotten bigger. Throwing single or 3 blade leaves (new leaves) is sign of reverting to veg. Which would lead toward lighting. Stress could hermie maybe but idk about stress causing reveg. Reveg is its own stress. Usually takes better part of a month of 24 hr light.
 

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