Pnw Outdoor Grow 2018

I've been using the Primordial Solutions line this year. First time so I'm hoping for a good show from these guys. The Mammoth I have is from an online request. I'll start it this week with a dose of high Phosphorus AACT and the Paleo.

1stGHgrow said:

Hey OMR, how's that Mammoth P working? I'm going to use my sample around the beginning of September.

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No discernable difference in anything yet. If it works as @45North suggests, it wont make any difference. To my understanding, microbial contribution of nutrients is only relevent for nutes that are tied up in organic stuff, so I can't imagine it will help with my nutes, which are already in solution. We'll see. Two of my beds have a lot of organic stuff, might help there.

I submit, for your consideration, that my plants aren't currently lacking for nutrients. ;-)

I run the highly amended "modified" super soil. The 30gal and 50gal pots have approximately a 50/50 of Happy Frog and da super stuff. My benny's are a big part of my grow so I'm super interested on the outcome of your experiment. My next year kinda depends on it. The stuff at my local dispensary isn't all that great quality-wise and my "med" supplier is spendy although quite worth it. One of my ladies was cloned from his stable; a Goji x Maple Leaf Indica. I'll post a good pic tomorrow. She's beasting out in a 50gal pot.
But for reals, let me know if anything pops on those Mammoth ladies. I'm not going to experiment. I'm using it on da whole lot.

45North said:

PM, Budrot, and Fu****g catapillars are my biggest worries. Strain choices can take care of the first two but the last few days of September and early October I have to watch like a hawk. If I find one , they come down. There will be more. They don’t stay on a cut hanging plant.
Btw... where are the damn fish!! :)
45NORTH

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Was reading back, and saw your complaint about caterpillers. Get yourself some bT and innoculate the bushes now, and you won't suffer. It's a bacteria that is safe for everything but caterpillers.
https://www.amazon.com/Bonide-Chemi...den&ie=UTF8&qid=1534250811&sr=1-1&keywords=bT

1stGHgrow said:

I started my bloom nute's last week Thursday. The True Bloom bottle said an initial soil drench dose at 5mL/gal then 2mL/gal afterwards twice a week. I alternate with foliar feedings at 2mL/gal twice a week. ...

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BTW, I think foliar feeding is a waste of time if you've got a good soil feeding program. The plant can get everything it needs from the soil, and is evolved to do so.

1stGHgrow said:

I've been using the Primordial Solutions line this year. First time so I'm hoping for a good show from these guys. The Mammoth I have is from an online request. I'll start it this week with a dose of high Phosphorus AACT and the Paleo.

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Now, if you want my two cents, which you didn't ask for, but are gonna get it anyway, you're throwing way too complex a program at your plants. Combining nutes is a recipe for problems. I'd pick something and stick with it. I use a simple program, and run only 75% of recommended strength, and as you can see, that program works.

Ya gotta understand, nutes aren't like food for the plant, they are more like vitamins. The plant can only use nutes to the extent that it has light, water, and plant mass available for photosynthesis. Excess nutes just sit in the soil or get washed out onto the ground. If you try to force them into the plant, you just poison it. My belief is in making a mild nurtient base always available, and it grows me trees.

That said, I am running the experiment, to find out if i'm missing something. I could well be full of shit. :-)

@OldManRiver
Couldn’t agree more with your nute solution.
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Less is always better because burn is.... a rookie move.

I did plug my soil with this freebie from the show. Girls are getting pretty root bound in the cloth pots. Especially the 15s

Sprayed 3 days ago.
Preventive.
Thinned the larf makers at the bottom and in the centers
45n

Four of the six big girls are starting to throw pistils hard. The white widows are lagging.

The big girl is a chem dawg. I think she's gonna produce well over two lbs, what do you think? She'll have until middle of october if needed. She's the same strain as the little girls, which are just under two months into budding in the pics. She's over six feet tall, and six feet wide.

Likewise, what do you think these little girls are gonna produce? They have about another two weeks, is my guess.

I try not to get too excited until they’re hanging... no jinx
Chem has always been known to be big n tall . I need a bit of discretion hence no green point beans in my bin. My guess is 600-800g

Don't get me wrong; I love KISS and this definitely isn't my first rodeo. I'm lazy by nature, lol. But this is the first year that I decided to make a decent attempt at an "organic" grow. And I now know why I never made such an attempt before. Procuring raw materials, incorporating same materials, "cooking" said materials for 3 months with a weekly "stir". Oh yeah, I went all out this year. Benny inoculants at each transplant, supplement additions; silica, high brix, carbon, amino acids. And will definitely think twice about embarking on such an endeavor ever again. But you know what guys, I'm seriously enjoying the experience. And I did learn a few things in the process.
My SIG, Harlequin and Blueberry are coming along nicely. The slow-pokes are just showing first signs of pistils.

1stGHgrow said:

Don't get me wrong; I love KISS and this definitely isn't my first rodeo. I'm lazy by nature, lol. But this is the first year that I decided to make a decent attempt at an "organic" grow. And I now know why I never made such an attempt before. Procuring raw materials, incorporating same materials, "cooking" said materials for 3 months with a weekly "stir". Oh yeah, I went all out this year. Benny inoculants at each transplant, supplement additions; silica, high brix, carbon, amino acids. And will definitely think twice about embarking on such an endeavor ever again. But you know what guys, I'm seriously enjoying the experience. And I did learn a few things in the process.
My SIG, Harlequin and Blueberry are coming along nicely. The slow-pokes are just showing first signs of pistils.

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Not callin’ You out cuz.
Just a simple credo

Believe me! My alternate ego Is Dr. Frankenstein. Dr. Jeykell must keep Hyde’s Wild ideas/ plans in check
45n

1stGHgrow said:

Don't get me wrong; I love KISS and this definitely isn't my first rodeo. I'm lazy by nature, lol. But this is the first year that I decided to make a decent attempt at an "organic" grow. And I now know why I never made such an attempt before. Procuring raw materials, incorporating same materials, "cooking" said materials for 3 months with a weekly "stir". Oh yeah, I went all out this year. Benny inoculants at each transplant, supplement additions; silica, high brix, carbon, amino acids. And will definitely think twice about embarking on such an endeavor ever again. But you know what guys, I'm seriously enjoying the experience. And I did learn a few things in the process.
My SIG, Harlequin and Blueberry are coming along nicely. The slow-pokes are just showing first signs of pistils.

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Anyway that gets it done. I've got a few things going I haven't mentioned. I have active mushroom spawn in two of the beds, making mushroom compost in situ. But getting fancy screwed me over, those were the beds that I have had to adjust the pH in, and one of the plants is the runt of the litter, probably only going to be 1/4 lb or so. The other one, however, is eight feet tall, and I had wine cap mushrooms growing at the base, which is cooler than fuck.

To make the mushrooms, I composted wood shavings and leaves for three months with mushroom spawn embedded in it. I then tilled that into ground. So I've got complex. and, as I said, it fucked me. My old, traditional, dirt with steer compost, required no attention, and grew trees.

45North said:

I try not to get too excited until they’re hanging... no jinx
Chem has always been known to be big n tall . I need a bit of discretion hence no green point beans in my bin. My guess is 600-800g

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I bet she's over 900. The spot has the best light n the garden, and she's a beast.

1stGHgrow said:

Don't get me wrong; I love KISS and this definitely isn't my first rodeo. I'm lazy by nature, lol. But this is the first year that I decided to make a decent attempt at an "organic" grow. And I now know why I never made such an attempt before. Procuring raw materials, incorporating same materials, "cooking" said materials for 3 months with a weekly "stir". Oh yeah, I went all out this year. Benny inoculants at each transplant, supplement additions; silica, high brix, carbon, amino acids. And will definitely think twice about embarking on such an endeavor ever again. But you know what guys, I'm seriously enjoying the experience. And I did learn a few things in the process.
My SIG, Harlequin and Blueberry are coming along nicely. The slow-pokes are just showing first signs of pistils.

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So, without meaning to be a dick, did that added complexity allow you to grow a larger/healthier/better plant than below? If not, was it worth it?

OldManRiver said:

So, without meaning to be a dick, did that added complexity allow you to grow a larger/healthier/better plant than below? If not, was it worth it?

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Your girl looks good OMR. I already conceded that this wasn't my favorite way to go; I've grown bigger with less. My whole thought process this year was quality, not quantity. So I have yet to see the product of my efforts to know if it was worth it. I agree with 45North; don't count your chicks before they've hatched.
And I'm sure you didn't mean to be a dick... Richard!

1stGHgrow said:

Richard!

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Lol:-)

pic of the day. They are reaching for the sky. Blooming is starting. Trichomes are still clear on the little girls.

Bud pics. Trichomes are still all clear.