3 day old seedling need help!

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This is my first grow ever i germ the seeds in paper towel let tap root pop put it in a peat moss and it sprouted but he issue is it looks smaller than other 3 day old seedling I seen online also tips are curling down on one of them the water level in the res is barely touching the bottom of the net pod just want to make sure my babies are in good shape here
 
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Anthony1005

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I have a mars hydro 300 i have it 2 ft above the seedling it has a full spectrum so I kinda figured it would be good I have it on a 18/6 cycle I’m doing dwc I take any advice I can so far i am really enjoying this new hobby of mine
 
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I have a mars hydro 300 i have it 2 ft above the seedling it has a full spectrum so I kinda figured it would be good I have it on a 18/6 cycle I’m doing dwc I take any advice I can so far i am really enjoying this new hobby of mine
Oooh nice dwc. Spill the beans bro give me all the info you have on your equipment and grow parameters and I will do what I can to maybe help. I run RDWC.

Have you decided to run sterile (meaning disinfectant to kill micro organisms) or live (meaning using beneficial micro organisms)
 
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Oooh nice dwc. Spill the beans bro give me all the info you have on your equipment and grow parameters and I will do what I can to maybe help. I run RDWC.

Have you decided to run sterile (meaning disinfectant to kill micro organisms) or live (meaning using beneficial micro organisms)
Listen to him ....... he will HELP you as Much as he can :)
 
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Just FYI your light is a 300w equivalent. It's actually about 125 true watts I think. Just for future reference if someone asks you refer to it as 125w
 
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I bought this box called growzilla it has all the specs and I have no idea about running sterile or not man not going to lie I’m new to this But I’m determined to make this work I take any advice I can I plan on doing a sog thanks for your guys help btw
 
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I bought this box called growzilla it has all the specs and I have no idea about running sterile or not man not going to lie I’m new to this But I’m determined to make this work I take any advice I can I plan on doing a sog thanks for your guys help btw
SOG will work well. I take it you are height limited. I will look this up. Are you in the US? If you are take a peek at Botanicare hydrogaurd. It's a bacteria that has been used in agriculture for years to kill and prevent pythium (root rot) I won't go into all the benefits right now but Lennie look up that grow box and see what I can't figure out for you in terms of eliminating problems before they start.

Do you know what nutrients you will be using?

You will also need a ppm and ph meter if you don't have. These are the 2 absolute must haves even cheap ones to start are better than nothing. Calibratible would be preferred.
 
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SOG will work well. I take it you are height limited. I will look this up. Are you in the US? If you are take a peek at Botanicare hydrogaurd. It's a bacteria that has been used in agriculture for years to kill and prevent pythium (root rot) I won't go into all the benefits right now but Lennie look up that grow box and see what I can't figure out for you in terms of eliminating problems before they start.

Do you know what nutrients you will be using?

You will also need a ppm and ph meter if you don't have. These are the 2 absolute must haves even cheap ones to start are better than nothing. Calibratible would be preferred.
SOG will work well. I take it you are height limited. I will look this up. Are you in the US? If you are take a peek at Botanicare hydrogaurd. It's a bacteria that has been used in agriculture for years to kill and prevent pythium (root rot) I won't go into all the benefits right now but Lennie look up that grow box and see what I can't figure out for you in terms of eliminating problems before they start.

Do you know what nutrients you will be using?

You will also need a ppm and ph meter if you don't have. These are the 2 absolute must haves even cheap ones to start are better than nothing. Calibratible would be preferred.
i uploaded a video for you
 
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This is my first grow ever i germ the seeds in paper towel let tap root pop put it in a peat moss and it sprouted but he issue is it looks smaller than other 3 day old seedling I seen online also tips are curling down on one of them the water level in the res is barely touching the bottom of the net pod just want to make sure my babies are in good shape here

Looks good to me. and i agree with BigCube "hand sanitize is your best friend at this stage. I've killed plenty 😲

Here is to your good fortune..🍻 ... now the hard part begins ....watching and learning your plants and developing your "style".

We at The Farm are here to help.

I too am a cabinet grower so i will be especially attentive to your progress.

I just came down the road you are on. I offer up the link to my last grow; hopefully there is something there that will help you avoid an issue. I hope it helps. https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/lets-do-it-again-2nd-hydro-grow.102287/

I also have a spreadsheet grow-log that i can get to you as well if you like. It is simple enough to use.


p.s. Which growzillia box did you get? Growzilla 4.0?
 
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Looks good to me. and i agree with BigCube "hand sanitize is your best friend at this stage. I've killed plenty 😲

Here is to your good fortune..🍻 ... now the hard part begins ....watching and learning your plants and developing your "style".

We at The Farm are here to help.

I too am a cabinet grower so i will be especially attentive to your progress.
Hey I appreciate It I will keep you updated on how it goes thanks
 
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i uploaded a video for you


you will probably also want to look at a product called PlusLife from the folks at Hydroponic Research. I use it in addition to Hydroguard however it does add to the PPM count whereas Hydroguard is almost nil. ==> https://hydroponic-research.com/product/life/ Some places consider Hydroguard a pesticide, however I don't know of any place that it cannot be shipped from.

no i don't work for them in any way; I use the product, have had good luck with it and I like the results you can see photos in my grow diaries and judge for yourself.
 
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Looking good for scrog I'm going to guess you probably 3 weeks to flip if all goes well. Out for dinner then out for the night but will get back at ya tomorrow. With a buncha info
have fun and be SAFE......................
 
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Looks good to me. and i agree with BigCube "hand sanitize is your best friend at this stage. I've killed plenty 😲

Here is to your good fortune..🍻 ... now the hard part begins ....watching and learning your plants and developing your "style".

We at The Farm are here to help.

I too am a cabinet grower so i will be especially attentive to your progress.

I just came down the road you are on. I offer up the link to my last grow; hopefully there is something there that will help you avoid an issue. I hope it helps. https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/lets-do-it-again-2nd-hydro-grow.102287/

I also have a spreadsheet grow-log that i can get to you as well if you like. It is simple enough to use.


p.s. Which growzillia box did you get? Growzilla 4.0?
Yea I got the growzilla4.0 with all that setup
Looks good to me. and i agree with BigCube "hand sanitize is your best friend at this stage. I've killed plenty 😲

Here is to your good fortune..🍻 ... now the hard part begins ....watching and learning your plants and developing your "style".

We at The Farm are here to help.

I too am a cabinet grower so i will be especially attentive to your progress.

I just came down the road you are on. I offer up the link to my last grow; hopefully there is something there that will help you avoid an issue. I hope it helps. https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/lets-do-it-again-2nd-hydro-grow.102287/

I also have a spreadsheet grow-log that i can get to you as well if you like. It is simple enough to use.


p.s. Which growzillia box did you get? Growzilla 4.0?
 
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you will probably also want to look at a product called PlusLife from the folks at Hydroponic Research. I use it in addition to Hydroguard however it does add to the PPM count whereas Hydroguard is almost nil. ==> https://hydroponic-research.com/product/life/ Some places consider Hydroguard a pesticide, however I don't know of any place that it cannot be shipped from.

no i don't work for them in any way; I use the product, have had good luck with it and I like the results you can see photos in my grow diaries and judge for yourself.
plus life i have never used not saying it not beneficial but im not sure of its fuction
 
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OK home and had a few drinkg but going to go over the basics
. Sog will be a good option how may plants are you looking at?
I trust the intake and exhaust will be adequate for to control humidity and temps. However i recommend using a controller such as ink bird to look after those for you. I run a sealed co2 injected room with complete control over environment. with out Co2 it much easier like your setup. Something like this would benefit you

I did some quick searches on your kit. I'm not a fan of the AN PH perfect nutes as others may chime in on them. I suggest using RO water with these nutrients and nothing else. I see they gave you PH up and down. You will not want to you these or any other addatives with PH perfect line. After this grow I would pitch them and get something else(we can discuss later). Adding things like PH up/down or cal mag will cause you all sorts of grief with these nutes. So put your PH pen away.... it pains me to say that.

Now seedling and clones. I see you have what look to be like 2" net pots. Not a fan but lets not go into that. Put 1-2" of your hydroton on the bottom then place your peat pellt/rapid rooter on top then fill the rest of the net pot with your hydrop ton. Important not to allow for light to pass through your net pots into your solution, this may cause algae growth and issue going forward. If you need you can use tin foil, panda film etc. over the net pots to prevent this.

Air temps: so you have no IR spectrum with you current light which means in order to get leaf temps of ideally 75F you will need an air temp of about 80-82F for best photosynthesis rates. I use a INKbird temp controller with a heater to accomplish this. I understand this is your first grow and maybe you dont want to spend the extra money but we can discuss this further if thats the case.

Ideal water temps. 77F now before other lose their shit on me because its not the norm let me explain. If you are running hydrogaurd (properly) you have nothing to worry about. The actual ideal temps for growth are 77F now i run mine at 75F because i dont want to bother heating. For those wondering why im recommending such a high temps its because growth is increased. But most hydro growers invest in chilllers and run at 68.... there is nothing wrong with this and the reason is because of the bacterial growth and reproduction rates. at 68F you have days to react and fix root issues due to bacterial infections. Now with a temp of 77You have maybe 24 hrs to react. So its a choice optimal growth rates or a bigger cushion to react. I have found that if you are running hydrogaurd (top feeding and half dosing reservoir) I have no had a single issue with pythium (root rot) and shown increased growth rates substantially with a temp of 75 over temps of 68. But understand that with these higher temps when shit goes wrong it goes wrong fast... and i always recommend a new grower works with the lower temps.

Lighting: With your lighting if anything its not going to be enough. I recommend using an app called "light meter" by my mobile tools dev.
seedling clones for the first 2 wekks 5-10k lumens.
After that is week 1 veg 10-15k and increasing by 5-7.5k a week. Others do this faster especially when transition indoor to outdoor. I find this works for me.
At flower you want 40K lumens plus over the canopy for ideal conditions.

I feel with sog you can get 6-8 plants and veg no more than 3 weeks in your setup possibly earlier. By Veg i'm not counting the time (first 2 weeks) to root clones or seedlings.

If you can afford an IR temps gun it will save you a lot of headaches. Use the surface setting and take the temps from the recommended distance, If you can get leaf temps of 75F this is ideal for photosynthesis. Again if you dont have or cant afford we can work around it based on plat response.

Air Stones/ water level : you want your air stones directly under the net pots. The water level should be about 1" below the net pot so that the bubbles breaking the surface are splashing the bottom of the net pot once the roots hit the water you can lower this to 2" and later i the grow you will see that the amount he plants drink will require daily top ups.

PPM's:This is guideline and will change based on equipment and environment and strain. This is my recommendation to you based on your equipment and an 8 week strain but these may need some tweeking
Seedlings/clones 100-150ppm (first 2 weeks)
Veg week 1 300-400pm
week 2 400-500ppm
wekk3 500-600ppm
flip to flower week 1 600-800ppm
weeks 2-6 800ppm
week7 500ppm
week 8 300ppm

Again plant response will dictate the actual ppm but i feel in your setup with you light this should be close.

Hydrogaurd I would recommend to anyone in hydro. its not cheap but its invaluable, if anyone here has tried to run a system without being sterile and without beneficial bacteria i'm sure they will tell you root rot is no joke.

How to mix nutrients: in most cases the nutrient are added then ph'ed down to 5.8 ish and are left to drift up to about 6.0-6.1 before being readjusted. I cannot stress enough with PH perfect nutrients to just mix and add measuring ppm and not PH. I honestly hate these nutes but it is what it is. add nothing but the nutrients in the ratio's supplied by the manufacturer. However the manufactures amounts or concentrations will be higher than you require, i can tell you that based on you lighting and equipment. its likely to be about half the doses. They imprtant thing is to keep the recommended ratios in line.

I have had a few drinks so i will let that digest and see if you have any questions or if i wake up and say to myself wtf was i talking about. Can give more info tomorrow
 
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