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SPARECHANGE said:
how many times, u tried this, in this way/space?

I'm just thinking of the peace n tranquility of your zen garden... 6 wks, from now. i see prisoners, chained to walls. that gonna b enough spacing? u gonna have access? tell me they slide out, for grooming, n cantilever, over?

i get weird so I'm hard to decipher, but i get great "visuals", in my imagination and if these get big... you'll b wantin some lithium... perhaps, thorazine. so i hope u done it, b4... and if not- i might try to guage, from some grow-op, bporn. spacing, that is. i see u skippin veg, to keep control! but it's extremely clever, ingenious n creative, for sure! now, just need a waterwheel, or wind turbine, feedin the flow.
I've seen MAYBE one setup, that techy/diy handy, where they didn't look too, ocd requiring and i think it was YouTube... but i don't recall seeing harvest time. obviously, i have some control issues, too.

sorry. 24pgs deep, i knew it'd b covered info. i thought I'd pm'd this.

nm. ignore me, sir. I'm not even sure i asked for the right stream/person. rough night. "hi, mom!".
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lol. first time in hydro but the plant layout is the same as I've been doing for a few years in this room. It normally gets prett crowded. Once they're pruned I dont go in there unless I need to. I normally fill the space wall to wall, corner to corner. This is actually less full than it normally would be at flip.

But, these are stretching big time now. I think this space might just get filled yet.

For comparison, this was my last grow at the same stage, and about 2 weeks after flip. I didnt prune nearly as aggressively last time mind you, so the plants look a bit bushier.
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obviously, ur not suffering for bud but that's alot o watts...
and flat white- 10%... nother 20% gratis, with mylar, isn't it? i know u have a diy, solution! not thatcha NEED Mas verde.
 
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Hydroponics lesson #3

Use trusted quality nutes. Only. Ever.

I gave these a single feeding of Megacrop back when they were in the second week or so before I got skittish and grabbed another bottle of pbp.

looks like that might have been a costly mistake. The white shit on the blocks is spreading and even growing on the roots of some plants. A couple have stunted root development because of it.

Like this one. It's got way less roots than any other plant in the room.
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And the reason I believe it was the MC, is I checked the jar i made of it, and it's got the exact same stuff growing on the surface. And thinking about it I first noticed the white stuff on the blocks not long after that single MC feed.

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So.. I'd stay away from MC/V3 in a hydro setup. Not sure what plan of action to take here... Thinking bottom feeding some 29% H2O2 at 4ml/gallon and attemptimg to inoculating them by bottom feeding with great white tomorrow.

Plants dont look bad, but honestly something seems kinda off with several of them. They dont look as healthy as they should up close and the growth rate is just ok, but not great.. God looks like shit to be real. Which could be partly due to the ph issue or me underfeeding a little. I had to drive ec up a bit as I was seeing some Ca- spotting on a few leaves and some iron def on all the plants.

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Dirtbag said:
Hydroponics lesson #3

Use trusted quality nutes. Only. Ever.

I gave these a single feeding of Megacrop back when they were in the second week or so before I got skittish and grabbed another bottle of pbp.

looks like that might have been a costly mistake. The white shit on the blocks is spreading and even growing on the roots of some plants. A couple have stunted root development because of it.

Like this one. It's got way less roots than any other plant in the room.View attachment 918581

And the reason I believe it was the MC, is I checked the jar i made of it, and it's got the exact same stuff growing on the surface. And thinking about it I first noticed the white stuff on the blocks not long after that single MC feed.

View attachment 918582

So.. I'd stay away from MC/V3 in a hydro setup. Not sure what plan of action to take here... Thinking bottom feeding some 29% H2O2 at 4ml/gallon and attemptimg to inoculating them by bottom feeding with great white tomorrow.
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You think something is bad with the organic inputs?
 
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Dirtbag said:
Hydroponics lesson #3

Use trusted quality nutes. Only. Ever.

I gave these a single feeding of Megacrop back when they were in the second week or so before I got skittish and grabbed another bottle of pbp.

looks like that might have been a costly mistake. The white shit on the blocks is spreading and even growing on the roots of some plants. A couple have stunted root development because of it.

Like this one. It's got way less roots than any other plant in the room.View attachment 918581

And the reason I believe it was the MC, is I checked the jar i made of it, and it's got the exact same stuff growing on the surface. And thinking about it I first noticed the white stuff on the blocks not long after that single MC feed.

View attachment 918582

So.. I'd stay away from MC/V3 in a hydro setup. Not sure what plan of action to take here... Thinking bottom feeding some 29% H2O2 at 4ml/gallon and attemptimg to inoculating them by bottom feeding with great white tomorrow.
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dam bro, not sure, but I know that mold and such things float in water , maybe take each cube and submerse in H2O and see what floats... if anything will see sup ...idk man, sure doesnt look like salt buildup, roots arent brown yet so thats a +, but looks like maybe they are heading that way.... thats one of the main things we dont like about exposed roots here...maybe ask ur buddies whats goin on ?
 
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H202 soak or just mix and top water. You have already been dosing right? If not start out conservative and ramp it up. They don't like strong hits if not used to it.

Sorry just something I never dealt with since Tap with chlorine + H202 all the time.
 
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Dirtbag said:
Hydroponics lesson #3

Use trusted quality nutes. Only. Ever.

I gave these a single feeding of Megacrop back when they were in the second week or so before I got skittish and grabbed another bottle of pbp.

looks like that might have been a costly mistake. The white shit on the blocks is spreading and even growing on the roots of some plants. A couple have stunted root development because of it.

Like this one. It's got way less roots than any other plant in the room.View attachment 918581

And the reason I believe it was the MC, is I checked the jar i made of it, and it's got the exact same stuff growing on the surface. And thinking about it I first noticed the white stuff on the blocks not long after that single MC feed.

View attachment 918582

So.. I'd stay away from MC/V3 in a hydro setup. Not sure what plan of action to take here... Thinking bottom feeding some 29% H2O2 at 4ml/gallon and attemptimg to inoculating them by bottom feeding with great white tomorrow.

Plants dont look bad, but honestly something seems kinda off with several of them. They dont look as healthy as they should up close and the growth rate is just ok, but not great.. God looks like shit to be real. Which could be partly due to the ph issue or me underfeeding a little. I had to drive ec up a bit as I was seeing some Ca- spotting on a few leaves and some iron def on all the plants.

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Wow that's crazy bro. You think it's the mega crop? Never heard of that happening with it but wow. I do know that mold spores exist pretty much everywhere. I'm kinda surprised with h2o2 dosing that could even happen. Looks like it was water mold and not mycorrhizae.
 
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Aqua Man said:
Wow that's crazy bro. You think it's the mega crop? Never heard of that happening with it but wow. I do know that mold spores exist pretty much everywhere. I'm kinda surprised with h2o2 dosing that could even happen. Looks like it was water mold and not mycorrhizae.
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Honestly my free sample seemed squishy in the packet. I never opened it though.
 
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MIMedGrower said:
Honestly my free sample seemed squishy in the packet. I never opened it though.
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lol Its dry, I would be upest AF. But i still can't see how water mold can grow in H2o2. I mean spores are everywhere, mold won't grow unless conditions are right. @Dirtbag This is affecting the plants also not in hydro... did they get mold too? Did you feed them mega also?
 
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Dirtbag said:
Hydroponics lesson #3

Use trusted quality nutes. Only. Ever.

I gave these a single feeding of Megacrop back when they were in the second week or so before I got skittish and grabbed another bottle of pbp.

looks like that might have been a costly mistake. The white shit on the blocks is spreading and even growing on the roots of some plants. A couple have stunted root development because of it.

Like this one. It's got way less roots than any other plant in the room.View attachment 918581

And the reason I believe it was the MC, is I checked the jar i made of it, and it's got the exact same stuff growing on the surface. And thinking about it I first noticed the white stuff on the blocks not long after that single MC feed.

View attachment 918582

So.. I'd stay away from MC/V3 in a hydro setup. Not sure what plan of action to take here... Thinking bottom feeding some 29% H2O2 at 4ml/gallon and attemptimg to inoculating them by bottom feeding with great white tomorrow.

Plants dont look bad, but honestly something seems kinda off with several of them. They dont look as healthy as they should up close and the growth rate is just ok, but not great.. God looks like shit to be real. Which could be partly due to the ph issue or me underfeeding a little. I had to drive ec up a bit as I was seeing some Ca- spotting on a few leaves and some iron def on all the plants.

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You can't use great white and H2o2 together it will kill the great white. Just like mold it won't live with h2o2, chlorine etc. TBH @Dirtbag I can't see a nutrient being responsible for this even if contaminated when running a sterile system it won't happen if the system is running properly sterile. Anytime there are organics this can be an issue. With sterile you miss a dose and all hell can break loose. Honestly I think something is wrong with the system if you are able to have mold grow. Maybe h2o2 concentration it too low? Maybe not dosed often enough? IDK Just thinking out loud here. Organics will feed bacteria/mold/fungi
 
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Srenots said:
was just gonna say, that pic looks like the yeast I use for corn mash... strange
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Could well be a wild strain, it's just, where did the spores come from? They were absent from the last grow, and I would have expected the mould to be present while using coco or peat based mediums, but it wasn't.
 
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