I am perfectly fine with supporting my statements or agreeing to disagree with someone but I never called your information bad just because it doesn't line up with mine. I've said a few things here, mostly supported by anecdotal evidence, what specific information do you think is bad? Besides, you are really misrepresenting what I said, I don't accept manufacturers numbers as gospel, I literally went out of my way to call their numbers "claims" as opposed to fact. I'm also not ignoring any data, before commenting I clearly looked at the tests you referenced and mentioned what I think are some valid concerns about the quality and completeness of that data. Migro is a manufacturer of led lights, they can not be considered an independent tester any more than
mars hydro,
hlg,
gavita, etc. By sticking to Migro's numbers like you said, how are
you considering all the data?
Saying that the lights can easily be quantified and compared based off the data that's out there is an oversimplification that doesn't take into consideration all the nuances between different test setups, grow setups, and other conditions. I never meant to get us on an hps vs led tangent and I already conceded earlier that I should have been more specific in the statement that started this. I was really just trying to point out that its not as easy as replacing an hps with a lower wattage led and getting better results but the main point was that regardless of led or hid, 40 watts per square foot is a good baseline. Personally, my grow is almost entirely led, I agree that generally they can be superior to hps but when compared watt for watt. Having gradually switched from hps to completely led for my 4x12 flowering area I can say that despite likely being less efficient than the leds the hps did not produce lower quality buds or yields for me. That being said, none of my hps had a dimmable ballast and the leds with their dimmers can certainly perform as well the hps, like I said before, for
most of the grow on lower power which is a huge advantage.