Baked Dream Muffins

sambapati · May 1, 2020

First of all be safe out there and thanks for reading my post. Well I am an old dog and am trying to learn some new tricks like growing meds here in tropical Thailand. Started indoors in a small air con room and moved outdoors at 1month. Don't have access to the same high end fertilizers here; but lots of coconuts and compost. This plant is almost 3 months old and has survived transplanting to the air pot....but hasn't had any growth spurt. I am PH testing the water...but the humidity here is about 60% and the sun is very strong with temps reaching 90-95....and super windy. I built a windbreak which works OK, don't know what to do with the high humidity or if it causing the gowth/leaf color weirdness. Appreciate any help on watering/feeding/sun but can't just go to the shop with everything....there is no such thing here..Thanks again

jaguarlax · May 1, 2020

Shit... My high ass thought this post was about actual muffins.. I'll try to help anyways...What kind of soil are you planted in?

sambapati · May 1, 2020

jaguarlax said:
Shit... My high ass thought this post was about actual muffins.. I'll try to help anyways...What kind of soil are you planted in?

The soil is composted organic material and perlite/bat guano/bloodmeal/coffee grounds/ground lamb bone shanks/kelp powder/crushed egg shells...The seeds are from a visit to the US (REBEL SEEDS) I am using collected rain water with vinegar added to get the right ph....I have sprayed the plant with an aloe water mixture....

jaguarlax · May 1, 2020

sambapati said:
The soil is composted organic material and perlite/bat guano/bloodmeal/coffee grounds/ground lamb bone shanks/kelp powder/crushed egg shells...The seeds are from a visit to the US (REBEL SEEDS) I am using collected rain water with vinegar added to get the right ph....I have sprayed the plant with an aloe water mixture....

Your compost could be too hot... Also are you checking your ph after you add vinegar?

Beachwalker · May 1, 2020

sambapati said:
First of all be safe out there and thanks for reading my post. Well I am an old dog and am trying to learn some new tricks like growing meds here in tropical Thailand. Started indoors in a small air con room and moved outdoors at 1month. Don't have access to the same high end fertilizers here; but lots of coconuts and compost. This plant is almost 3 months old and has survived transplanting to the air pot....but hasn't had any growth spurt. I am PH testing the water...but the humidity here is about 60% and the sun is very strong with temps reaching 90-95....and super windy. I built a windbreak which works OK, don't know what to do with the high humidity or if it causing the gowth/leaf color weirdness. Appreciate any help on watering/feeding/sun but can't just go to the shop with everything....there is no such thing here..Thanks again

From what I can see I believe you have severe mite damage, be safe!

sambapati · May 1, 2020

jaguarlax said:
Your compost could be too hot... Also are you checking your ph after you add vinegar?

Ph after a bit of vinegar is 6.2-6.4 using a pool ph monitor

sambapati · May 10, 2020

Do these 2 week old plants look OK my concern is the brown tip and kind of weird unfolding of the leaves

dire wolf · May 10, 2020

Hey sambapati , i dont think your position on planet earth is going to be the challenge , first of all , a quick question , you got rebel grown seeds ? You must have some high friends in high places , rebel grown are some knowledgeable dudes , the have great seeds ......
First off loose the home made ground bone mix , unless its been composted or processed in a pro manner ....
Next , you said you grew the plant indoor for a month , that makes perfect sense , but you should let it grow out more after you " pinched " trained it , as the plant outdoors goes into immediate flower , and your "stretch time seems non existant , as the plant is flowering directly from the fork in the pinch....

Beach is right , do you know what spider mites or local pests bugs you have there ?
Im sure you can get neem oil , to treat the mites , but going unchecked , your dead in the water fast.....

Perlite , bat guano , perfect , bloodmeal good ,
forget about the eggs , vinegar and coffee , oh on second thought , use them to make a nice eggs benedict breakfast , and lambshank osso bucco lunch

I dont think the intense sun will be a huge problem , but if you want sucess you might poke around for a spot with light , but only a few hours of direct light ....

Your soil is too dense , maybe you can mash it or grind it up ( to create better drainage ) , then add the perlite , bat guano blood meal , and get rid of the fabric ""pot ( oh i see you transplanted for outside air pot ok , sorry ) and use plastic , make it more difficult for all the creepy bugs and shit to enter and plastic will hold moisture better in the wind ,

What seeds did you get from rebel ? Are they from rebel grown seeds or rebel mota seeds ??

dire wolf · May 10, 2020

Your little ones look fine , but are going to follow the same exact fate unless you change your plan ....

Well actually your first set of leaves are suffering from the overdone " hot" mix you are using ....

Another good idea is to get a suitable strain for your tropic region , you can then grow seed directly outside and it will start and finish fine.....
A sativa dominant ......

dire wolf · May 10, 2020

jaguarlax said:
Shit... My high ass thought this post was about actual muffins.. I'll try to help anyways...What kind of soil are you planted in?

Hey jaguarlax ,Whats wrong with you !

sambapati · May 10, 2020

dire wolf said:
Hey sambapati , i dont think your position on planet earth is going to be the challenge , first of all , a quick question , you got rebel grown seeds ? You must have some high friends in high places , rebel grown are some knowledgeable dudes , the have great seeds ......
First off loose the home made ground bone mix , unless its been composted or processed in a pro manner ....
Next , you said you grew the plant indoor for a month , that makes perfect sense , but you should let it grow out more after you " pinched " trained it , as the plant outdoors goes into immediate flower , and your "stretch time seems non existant , as the plant is flowering directly from the fork in the pinch....

Beach is right , do you know what spider mites or local pests bugs you have there ?
Im sure you can get neem oil , to treat the mites , but going unchecked , your dead in the water fast.....

Perlite , bat guano , perfect , bloodmeal good ,
forget about the eggs , vinegar and coffee , oh on second thought , use them to make a nice eggs benedict breakfast , and lambshank osso bucco lunch

I dont think the intense sun will be a huge problem , but if you want sucess you might poke around for a spot with light , but only a few hours of direct light ....

Your soil is too dense , maybe you can mash it or grind it up ( to create better drainage ) , then add the perlite , bat guano blood meal , and get rid of the fabric ""pot ( oh i see you transplanted for outside air pot ok , sorry ) and use plastic , make it more difficult for all the creepy bugs and shit to enter and plastic will hold moisture better in the wind ,

What seeds did you get from rebel ? Are they from rebel grown seeds or rebel mota seeds ??

Thanks for your reply....I got the seeds in November when I visited California they are Rebel Grown Seeds. I looked for Neem oil but so far no love here for that. I will try online to get some and use it. Should I repot the seedlings or wait for the Neem oil. I don't really know how many pests there are here but we have a lot of gekos roaming around and hopefully they will eat some of the pests,

sambapati · May 10, 2020

dire wolf said:
Your little ones look fine , but are going to follow the same exact fate unless you change your plan ....

Well actually your first set of leaves are suffering from the overdone " hot" mix you are using ....

Another good idea is to get a suitable strain for your tropic region , you can then grow seed directly outside and it will start and finish fine.....
A sativa dominant ......

That makes sense..I bought the blueberry seeds because it said they were heat resistant. I am trying to get some Neem oil and will use it....in the meantime thanks for your feedback.

sambapati · May 11, 2020

dire wolf said:
Your little ones look fine , but are going to follow the same exact fate unless you change your plan ....

Well actually your first set of leaves are suffering from the overdone " hot" mix you are using ....

Another good idea is to get a suitable strain for your tropic region , you can then grow seed directly outside and it will start and finish fine.....
A sativa dominant ......

Thanks Dire Wolf, I love your song BTW and please don't murder me....

dire wolf · May 11, 2020

Hey sambapati , hope i didnt sound overy critical , i was just joking about the eggs .... i grow a lot in similar conditions , im going to give your situation more thought and get back to you , one thing i might suggest is , getting a good light to veg indoors , unless you have the freedom to use sunshine on the window or door , then extend your indoor veg time to 18 hours ...with any light indoors , but a nice led or grow light would be my preference....
Blueberry is a really finicky plant in some crosses , like a blueberry haze would be good for you but a straight blueberry already comes with a lot of challenges ,
Did someone suggest you grow a indica hybrid in your area , i would think they would have suggested something else , well anyway if im not mistaken , blueberry had thai influences , but sometimes you need to get a strain that is more suited to your hot humid tropic climate , but you will get there,
Transplanting seedlings is tough , but if you can do it gently and you dont have seeds to waste , then i would do it ....less compost , softer more perlite , good drainage , best bet , seedlings dont need to be fed , they sprout with enough stored energy to get them thru a week or two ...

dire wolf · May 11, 2020

sambapati said:
Thanks Dire Wolf, I love your song BTW and please don't murder me....

Oh boy , now we talkin !

Also tips could be light burn , if they are too close to light

sambapati · May 11, 2020

dire wolf said:
Hey sambapati , hope i didnt sound overy critical , i was just joking about the eggs .... i grow a lot in similar conditions , im going to give your situation more thought and get back to you , one thing i might suggest is , getting a good light to veg indoors , unless you have the freedom to use sunshine on the window or door , then extend your indoor veg time to 18 hours ...with any light indoors , but a nice led or grow light would be my preference....
Blueberry is a really finicky plant in some crosses , like a blueberry haze would be good for you but a straight blueberry already comes with a lot of challenges ,
Did someone suggest you grow a indica hybrid in your area , i would think they would have suggested something else , well anyway if im not mistaken , blueberry had thai influences , but sometimes you need to get a strain that is more suited to your hot humid tropic climate , but you will get there,
Transplanting seedlings is tough , but if you can do it gently and you dont have seeds to waste , then i would do it ....less compost , softer more perlite , good drainage , best bet , seedlings dont need to be fed , they sprout with enough stored energy to get them thru a week or two ...

Yes Dire Wolf -- I've got the shades open so the light comes in from outside. Every plant has a light and I can go with the longer light exposure as you suggested. Exactly how far away from the light are the seedlings supposed to be? Is 40 cm correct? I can hopefully get to Bangkok and go to a store that would carry a 'real' grow light. I did find Neem oil online and will get that and use it.

dire wolf · May 11, 2020

sambapati said:
Yes Dire Wolf -- I've got the shades open so the light comes in from outside. Every plant has a light and I can go with the longer light exposure as you suggested. Exactly how far away from the light are the seedlings supposed to be? Is 40 cm correct? I can hopefully get to Bangkok and go to a store that would carry a 'real' grow light. I did find Neem oil online and will get that and use it.

Hey s ,yea 40cm or maybe 2ft would be a bit easier if the bulb is hot , i do t know what kind of light it is ,, if it feels too warm while your hand is under it then move it up , i would suggest 18 hrs of light 6 dark anyway you can do it , it will give the plant the required "veg time " then outdoors you will get the " flower cycle" careful with the neem oil ,follow instructions , get a magnification loupe or mag on phone or whatever you need to look for tiny "spider mites" not sure if you have them there , but if you do .....its number one problem , you can controll , eliminate them , but if you dont , your finished
Look for tiny black specks , under leaf , you will see them crawling around and leaving black waste spots ....

sambapati · May 16, 2020

Ok Per instructions of Dire Wolf I repotted all the plants into 30% organic soil 30 % perlite and 30% peat moss. I put rocks and coir on the bottom 10%. I had a Katie Bar the door wateri g session then brought in the cleaning man (me). Last night I gave the Neem/soapy spray routine and added magnets. Am encouraged by new growth in 2 of 3 plants. Any other suggestions -- I will wait at least 5 days to water and then do it better. All any suggestions thanks to the farmers. I USED Baked Dream muffin seeds frim Rebel Seeds...