Who can guess what is going on with these plants and how would you go about fixing these two young females?

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Hi stoners!
Can you guess what happened to these poor young cannabis girls?
What is going on with these plants and how would you attempt to help get the plants back to their full health?
Please try to provide organic solutions only because products that are non-gmo is the only way to go!
It’s better for everyone and the environment!
Lol and you have to check out Fang the Wolf Spider that like chilling next to all the young females
 
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KingsCropCannabis said:
Hi stoners!
Can you guess what happened to these poor young cannabis girls?
What is going on with these plants and how would you attempt to help get the plants back to their full health?
Please try to provide organic solutions only because products that are non-gmo is the only way to go!
It’s better for everyone and the environment!
Lol and you have to check out Fang the Wolf Spider that like chilling next to all the young females
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How about supplying some information: clones or seedlings?; what’s the dirt?; what have you fed these plants, and when was the last feeding? How close is your. Light and what’s the wattage (from the wall, watts)? How long have they been in these pots?
 
KingsCropCannabis

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Great questions I should have put that info in the original post.
These are seedlings about 2-3 weeks old.
The soil is a mix of organic soil mix, organic compost, organic peat moss, organic coco coir, & organic perlite.
The soil mix contains many other extras you would normally find such as bone meal, blood meal, earth worm castings, kelp, and many other beneficial ingredients for soil including mycorrhiza etc. There are even a few worms per container to add extra beneficial life to the soil as well as aeration.
The plants were started inside of small containers as seeds in 100% peat moss and after about a week were transferred into the soil mix given above.
They have been given water somewhat routinely.., and recently have been given lots of TLC and were given hydrogen peroxide diluted in water & compost tea (rain water, molasses, special mix for vegetative growth) given to them on a routine and regular basis.
Hint: lights are not the issue with this problem however these lights are simple commercial grade T12 bulbs with multiple spectrum bulbs per ballast & are actually T8 bulbs because they are compatible with T12s.
I have both fixtures around 6-8 inches above the plants, however with the bulbs I’m running they could literally be touching the fixtures and still not get burned.
 
buddhaBudman

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Tbh sounds like you're doing everything right and maybe doing too much or over parenting. The seedling stage is a tough one. They don't look terrible. If they seem stunted and not growing much my instinct wouldn't be the soil or deficiencies but watering. I'd just keep doing what you're doing, unless they take a turn for the worst just let them be and pot up when you think it's time.
 
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buddhaBudman said:
Tbh sounds like you're doing everything right and maybe doing too much or over parenting. The seedling stage is a tough one. They don't look terrible. If they seem stunted and not growing much my instinct wouldn't be the soil or deficiencies but watering. I'd just keep doing what you're doing, unless they take a turn for the worst just let them be and pot up when you think it's time
Aqua Man said:
I'm not gonna talk about nutrients because you asked only organic so your problem is hydrogen peroxide. It's killing the microbes needed to break the organic nutrients down since plants don't eat organic nutrients.

Buy some beneficial microbes innoculate the soil and stop using hydrogen peroxide.
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Aqua Man said:
I'm not gonna talk about nutrients because you asked only organic so your problem is hydrogen peroxide. It's killing the microbes needed to break the organic nutrients down since plants don't eat organic nutrients.

Buy some beneficial microbes innoculate the soil and stop using hydrogen peroxide.
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It had been overwatered and so my first watering after it was almost dried up was a concoction of hydrogen peroxide diluted with water, after the first application no hydrogen peroxide has been used since
 
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KingsCropCannabis said:
It had been overwatered and so my first watering after it was almost dried up was a concoction of hydrogen peroxide diluted with water, after the first application no hydrogen peroxide has been used since
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Then that's your issue... It's been overwatered. Transpiration rates drop because lack of o2 and no to little nutrient uptake.

Looks hungry and you have plenty in there. With no signs of over watering currently. Leads one to think why are they not available? Has to be it's not being broken down... Hense my post

Soil doesn't look over watered, leaves not showing signs of overwatering unless it's previous in which case I'm not sure the reason for the post if you knew the issue and it has been corrected?
 
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Aquaman is dead on......the hydrogen peroxide and microbes don't mix at all. You sterilized all the microbes life and it's going to take some time for the clonies to build back up.....

You also can't let the soil dry out or overwater, you also kill all the microbes.....creating a toxic environment.

Don't use peroxide in soil with organic inputs......and you for sure don't wanna add peroxide to a tea....it's counter productive.

And I'm calling PETA about the worm abuse......thats just not right......😋
 
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TheBioMaster said:
Aquaman is dead on......the hydrogen peroxide and microbes don't mix at all. You sterilized all the microbes life and it's going to take some time for the clonies to build back up.....

You also can't let the soil dry out or overwater, you also kill all the microbes.....creating a toxic environment.

Don't use peroxide in soil with organic inputs......and you for sure don't wanna add peroxide to a tea....it's counter productive.

And I'm calling PETA about the worm abuse......thats just not right......😋
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I had meant to sterilize the soil! I believe I had some root rot taking place due to some
dire wolf said:
Hey kings , your post seems weird , like your challenging people to remedy your screw up as if you figured it out and we are clueless ?
Does that make sense to you ....
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I had figured out the problem prior to the post and am currently taking corrective action on it and was curious to see what others would think upon seeing the plants and what they would do in order to revitalize. So essentially yes it is kind of like a challenge to see who can make an educated guess as to what went wrong here in the young stage of these cannabis plants.
 
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TheBioMaster said:
Aquaman is dead on......the hydrogen peroxide and microbes don't mix at all. You sterilized all the microbes life and it's going to take some time for the clonies to build back up.....

You also can't let the soil dry out or overwater, you also kill all the microbes.....creating a toxic environment.

Don't use peroxide in soil with organic inputs......and you for sure don't wanna add peroxide to a tea....it's counter productive.

And I'm calling PETA about the worm abuse......thats just not right......😋
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KingsCropCannabis

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TheBioMaster said:
Aquaman is dead on......the hydrogen peroxide and microbes don't mix at all. You sterilized all the microbes life and it's going to take some time for the clonies to build back up.....

You also can't let the soil dry out or overwater, you also kill all the microbes.....creating a toxic environment.

Don't use peroxide in soil with organic inputs......and you for sure don't wanna add peroxide to a tea....it's counter productive.

And I'm calling PETA about the worm abuse......thats just not right......😋
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Lol funny about calling PETA 🤦🏽‍♂️😂

I used the hydrogen peroxide dilution to sterilize the roots and used a mister bottle to spray the foliage as well as the roots/soil.
The mix was diluted enough that the foliage could be sprayed with no harmful effects and also with me happily knowing that I have no mold/mildew growing or root rot.
I then let the pots dry out completely and then began my feeding with the tea compost.
 
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KingsCropCannabis said:
I had meant to sterilize the soil! I believe I had some root rot taking place due to some

I had figured out the problem prior to the post and am currently taking corrective action on it and was curious to see what others would think upon seeing the plants and what they would do in order to revitalize. So essentially yes it is kind of like a challenge to see who can make an educated guess as to what went wrong here in the young stage of these cannabis plants.
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Ok , that's cool ...a little intellectual challenge .....
Also , they do look fine now ...
 
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Aqua Man said:
I'm not gonna talk about nutrients because you asked only organic so your problem is hydrogen peroxide. It's killing the microbes needed to break the organic nutrients down since plants don't eat organic nutrients.

Buy some beneficial microbes innoculate the soil and stop using hydrogen peroxide.
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I completely agree on the microbes!
So what is your opinion on utilizing a diluted formula of hydrogen peroxide and distilled water in order to treat a plant that has the potential for mold/mildew as well as root rot?
They might not appear like it but around the 2nd week they were overwatered and had a few yellow leaves. I plucked the bottom 2 leaves and then sprayed with the hydrogen peroxide dilution once and that was the only time. I did this a day before the mix had completely dried up after being overwatered.
I am in total agreeance that I definitely didn’t help the microbiology in the soil but do you think that with it being a one time use and helping deter away a bigger problem what is your personal opinion based on experience?
 
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KingsCropCannabis said:
I completely agree on the microbes!
So what is your opinion on utilizing a diluted formula of hydrogen peroxide and distilled water in order to treat a plant that has the potential for mold/mildew as well as root rot?
They might not appear like it but around the 2nd week they were overwatered and had a few yellow leaves. I plucked the bottom 2 leaves and then sprayed with the hydrogen peroxide dilution once and that was the only time. I did this a day before the mix had completely dried up after being overwatered.
I am in total agreeance that I definitely didn’t help the microbiology in the soil but do you think that with it being a one time use and helping deter away a bigger problem what is your personal opinion based on experience?
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Use a product with bacillus amyloliquefaciens. Can also be foliar sprayed. Some are cheaper than others and will kill pythium (commonly called root rot) and since its a bacteria it not going to wipe out your microbes. It's been used in agriculture for some time for that exact reason.

Find some microbes to re innoculate the soil. I'm use raw microbes but not claiming that's what you need for a brand.

I don't mind answering challenge questions when they are posed as such but I think almost anyone here will tell you it's not very appreciated by most to bait ppl and try to make them look foolish. I'm not saying you did that to me. But you have ppl posting to try and help you and I'm sure they may not take kindly to that. I know I feel like I have wasted my time answering a post that was just for the amusement of someone else.

We also have rules here please read them. Making threads to bait ppl is not acceptable.

In the future please refrain from this type of baiting post. If you want a post to challenge people by all means create it. But do so in that context please.
 
Aqua Man

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KingsCropCannabis said:
I completely agree on the microbes!
So what is your opinion on utilizing a diluted formula of hydrogen peroxide and distilled water in order to treat a plant that has the potential for mold/mildew as well as root rot?
They might not appear like it but around the 2nd week they were overwatered and had a few yellow leaves. I plucked the bottom 2 leaves and then sprayed with the hydrogen peroxide dilution once and that was the only time. I did this a day before the mix had completely dried up after being overwatered.
I am in total agreeance that I definitely didn’t help the microbiology in the soil but do you think that with it being a one time use and helping deter away a bigger problem what is your personal opinion based on experience?
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Sorry I missed answering you last questions.

You wiped em out imo.
1)Overwatered. As I explained that causes lack of o2 in the root zone and all these bacteria are aerobic. Meaning they respire and need oxygen just like the plant.

2) hydrogen peroxide added after partially dry... Imo likely finishing them at this point.

3) dry the media completely kills the last Lone Ranger feeding your plants.

This is just for context so you can see... It's very likely you would benefit from re innoculatiion.

Unless you want to add inorganic nutrients. Which is what I would do in low dose until you can let the microbes build back up.
 
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