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Any thoughts, reflections, I know she’s droopy
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bighempn
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Hey cabi,
so what are your temps and humidity for day/night? If you can, try a very small electric space heater that has a built in thermostat. I’ve found one for about 40$ at wall mart that worked great for my small veg closet. As a general rule of thumb, you want 75-80F/60-65 rH for lights on and about 68-74F/ 45-50rH for lights out. Try to keep it more consistent if you can.
it also looks like it could be over watering. Do you lift your pots and check to see how heavy/light it is before watering?
definitely drop that light down about 8” or so. LEDs don’t have the intense penetration HIDs do.
if they are soaked, let them dry out for two days and get those temps up. It will help dry them out.
get your self some Bayer aspirin but find the non-coated kind. I use an old coffee grinder then dump into a blender with room temp water and blend very well. Shake it up before adding to res. Don’t worry about any white foam as it will dicipate. I use 50 pills per 100 gal so 1/2 to 1 pill per gal and you will see them perk right up.
also not a bad idea to slurry test your root zone soil and get your pH/ppm #s. Do equal parts soil/ pH’d neutral water(7.0pH)
also for pretty cheap, pick up a screw on chlorine filter for your garden hose.
so what nutes are you running? Organic or synthetic?
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OK. Thanks for trying to help out. I don’t think I’m over watering, but i’m also dealing with factors I don’t normally deal with outside. I left the window open last night and it dipped into the 40s which might’ve accounted for the Drooping. They perked up as soon as they got light. Though because I’m new, didn’t realize that these plants almost always have a natural droop. As I explained or at least I think I did, these are clones. Got them Friday and I thought I would just water them to flush out whatever was being used on them prior to me getting them. I’m using Fox Farm Soil and fox farms nutrient trio, all liquid. The plants are 2 to 3 weeks old and my biggest problem so far seems to be maintaining temperature. The humidifier it’s supposed to turn off when it hits 65 to 70° And it does. But I have a cloud line T6 which is supposed to turn on when the temperature gets above 80F but it also turns on when the humidity breaks 70° Which is screwing everything up. The fan comes on so often that it pulls the humidity out and keeps the room cooler than it should. So I’m thinking maybe I should only set up the T6 with a Fahrenheit reading and leave the rest off. Again this is all new to me. Thanks for getting back to me. For some reason my app is not letting me know that someone has answered my question. I’ll have to check on this more often. Thanks again and any advice is appreciated. Last thing. I backed up the lights a little because I noticed some burning. I was going to check with the manufacturer today but they are on eastern time and couldn’t get to it.
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Also you should know that the lights are on between 6 AM to 11 PM when everything shuts down. Should I keep the humidifier on the rest of the night? And I will check about the heater. See if I can find something on Amazon
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These plants appear over watered. They may have suffered a little in temperature drop, but if you look at your photos you can see a few problems that indicate why:
If you look at first photo, you can see the speed bumps that appear in your fan leaves, while the plants looks heavy, full and are curing downward at the tips, besides the obvious droop. Also, as a good rule of thumb to follow to help prevent over watering is to keep your pot's diameter smaller than the plants diameter, and as a result is often the #1 reason new growers end up over watering their plants. Ask yourself, do you think that the roots on these plants has made it down through all that medium (soil) that they need watering that much? With the exception of hydro, where the roots are immersed in oxygenated water and chemistry, cannabis plants in soil like a drying spell between watering and feedings, as this is how the roots get oxygen. If they are wet too often, then the roots can't take up oxygen. On the second photo I have circled where the sides of your fan leaves are already starting to deteriorate, which is another sign of overwatering, and also this plant shows the same speed bumps that have formed clearly on the fan leaves.
If you were in the right size bucket, you should only need to feed and/ or water about once every 4th or 5th day and your plants will be much happier looking. Once you need to water more than this it is usually because the plant does need to go to a larger pot.
Overall, control your environmental issues, but slack back on the watering for those size buckets and let the plant size dictate how much water it needs, not the size of the pots.
If you look at first photo, you can see the speed bumps that appear in your fan leaves, while the plants looks heavy, full and are curing downward at the tips, besides the obvious droop. Also, as a good rule of thumb to follow to help prevent over watering is to keep your pot's diameter smaller than the plants diameter, and as a result is often the #1 reason new growers end up over watering their plants. Ask yourself, do you think that the roots on these plants has made it down through all that medium (soil) that they need watering that much? With the exception of hydro, where the roots are immersed in oxygenated water and chemistry, cannabis plants in soil like a drying spell between watering and feedings, as this is how the roots get oxygen. If they are wet too often, then the roots can't take up oxygen. On the second photo I have circled where the sides of your fan leaves are already starting to deteriorate, which is another sign of overwatering, and also this plant shows the same speed bumps that have formed clearly on the fan leaves.
If you were in the right size bucket, you should only need to feed and/ or water about once every 4th or 5th day and your plants will be much happier looking. Once you need to water more than this it is usually because the plant does need to go to a larger pot.
Overall, control your environmental issues, but slack back on the watering for those size buckets and let the plant size dictate how much water it needs, not the size of the pots.
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The pots are 1 gallon. And now that I see your reasoning, I can see that you’re right. I can’t get into a smaller pot. I certainly have them or I can just take into account how deep that Root ball is and water accordingly. ThanksThese plants appear over watered. They may have suffered a little in temperature drop, but if you look at your photos you can see a few problems that indicate why:
If you look at first photo, you can see the speed bumps that appear in your fan leaves, while the plants looks heavy, full and are curing downward at the tips, besides the obvious droop. Also, as a good rule of thumb to follow to help prevent over watering is to keep your pot's diameter smaller than the plants diameter, and as a result is often the #1 reason new growers end up over watering their plants. Ask yourself, do you think that the roots on these plants has made it down through all that medium (soil) that they need watering that much? With the exception of hydro, where the roots are immersed in oxygenated water and chemistry, cannabis plants in soil like a drying spell between watering and feedings, as this is how the roots get oxygen. If they are wet too often, then the roots can't take up oxygen. On the second photo I have circled where the sides of your fan leaves are already starting to deteriorate, which is another sign of overwatering, and also this plant shows the same speed bumps that have formed clearly on the fan leaves.
If you were in the right size bucket, you should only need to feed and/ or water about once every 4th or 5th day and your plants will be much happier looking. Once you need to water more than this it is usually because the plant does need to go to a larger pot.
Overall, control your environmental issues, but slack back on the watering for those size buckets and let the plant size dictate how much water it needs, not the size of the pots.
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Just ease back on your watering/ feeding cycle as the plant is still young and will rebound with newer growth, but next time you grow it is something to consider, because most growers, including myself at one time, learned the same way. We like to think that watering and feeding them just makes it grow faster, but the plant will be happier if you give it time to breath
Also, those lights are at the right height for those young plants, but if they are dimmable, don't dim to much or over do it with intensity. Many new LED boards have much more intense light than earlier LED's, and in actual fact many now have up to a 3 foot penetration into a canopy where as HID lights are usaully good for 2' penetration on average.
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