New to Photos, advice welcome!

Newguy2022 · Feb 12, 2023

I was recently given 2 cloned photos of Runtz. I am brand new to photos. They are on 18-6. 4x4 tent. Temperature 80 degrees. Mars Hydro 3000 about 24 inches from canopy at 75%. Going transplant into a 5 gallon next week. I have roots organic soil with some perlite I will mix in. My questions are, should I add anything else in the soil when I transplant? What should my humidity be for veg and flower? And should I start feeding it now or wait until I transplant? Also any nutrient line recommendations are welcomed. I currently have the gen hydro liquid trio with some liquid cal mag. Open to suggestions. I know it was a long question so thank you in advance !

2Bad · Feb 12, 2023

Transplant soon before it root bounds.

Roots organic should have nutrients look into it. No need to feed yet but need to transplant. And if the roots organic doesn’t have nutes then u can start to feed.

Look into cannabis vpd for temp and humidity

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PipeCarver · Feb 12, 2023

Newguy2022 said:
I was recently given 2 cloned photos of Runtz. I am brand new to photos. They are on 18-6. 4x4 tent. Temperature 80 degrees. Mars Hydro 3000 about 24 inches from canopy at 75%. Going transplant into a 5 gallon next week. I have roots organic soil with some perlite I will mix in. My questions are, should I add anything else in the soil when I transplant? What should my humidity be for veg and flower? And should I start feeding it now or wait until I transplant? Also any nutrient line recommendations are welcomed. I currently have the gen hydro liquid trio with some liquid cal mag. Open to suggestions. I know it was a long question so thank you in advance !

Hi welcome, Transplant asap into the media of choice, I use promix and I try for a 33% mix of perlite in it some worm castings and possibly some mycos ( when I have it ). I also use a 3 part liquid system from General Hydroponics I've been using for years and I'm happy with it. Humidity in veg 60 - 65% it can drop lower but I try to keep it above 50% at minimum humidifiers if it gets too low. Flower you want it lower down to 40% I've heard some like 35% I'm okay around 50% without getting dehumidifiers going. If it rises above 55% I turn 1 on.

I'd add a light feed to them when you transplant, pre wet the soil with regular water
( damp not soaked ) then once the plants are in their new pot feed them to seat them in their new home. Don't saturate the pot at this time as its only half full of plant and roots. Just feed the same approximate amount you would have fed before transplanting. If you've pre wet your soil it should all dry out for its next watering at the same time as the top.

Trixie · Feb 13, 2023

Looking Good. They are ready to up-pot into a 3 or 5-gallon pot. If you use Roots Organic remember to use pure water only for the first few weeks because it's already amended with nutrients. After a few weeks, you can start a "very low ppm" of the Gen Hydroponics with every watering. I use less than 1/2 of the manufacturer's recommendations.

Newguy2022 · Feb 15, 2023

Thank you all for your advice. I have repotted into 5 gallon fabrics. Mix of ocean forest/roots and perlite. Light is about 25 inches away at 70%. I noticed some of the fan leaves curling and discoloring. Any thoughts on this? Is this light burn??

PipeCarver · Feb 15, 2023

Newguy2022 said:
Thank you all for your advice. I have repotted into 5 gallon fabrics. Mix of ocean forest/roots and perlite. Light is about 25 inches away at 70%. I noticed some of the fan leaves curling and discoloring. Any thoughts on this? Is this light burn??

Try turning the light down to 60%, if I've learned anything with these led lights is less is more. Find a spot where they look happy and work up. I'm not sure how accurate this is but I read on here from another poster that leaves pointing up they want more light...leaves pointing down they want less light and flat leaves are happy leaves. It seems like a good observation to go by.

Newguy2022 · Feb 17, 2023

I raised the lights a little higher and it seems to be getting worse, should I trim off this crispy fan leaves? How long do plants usually take to correct? Could it be a different issue then lighting with the way these leaves look?

CannaGranny · Feb 17, 2023

Newguy2022 said:
I raised the lights a little higher and it seems to be getting worse, should I trim off this crispy fan leaves? How long do plants usually take to correct? Could it be a different issue then lighting with the way these leaves look?

In my opinion the Ocean Forest is extremely hot soil. Having gone from no feed to a soil that’s so hot may be some of your problems. They clearly are not grooving on it.
Regardless if I am transplanting seedlings or more seasoned clones I start low and slow on the nutrients and work up to a full dose. With this particular soil, you don’t have that choice. Many auto growers use this soil and do so by only adding it to the bottom third of the pot.
Your soil, looks extremely dry as well. Those cloth pots are great to grow in, but you must learn to manage the watering properly.
As Pipe Carver said, back your lights off until these ladies get good footing. Give them a good and proper watering and wait to see if they soften toward what they have had thrown at them.

elusiveshame · Feb 17, 2023

If you just repotted in treated soil, use only water for a few weeks.

Get rid of the dead leaves. They’re dead and won’t do any good to your plant - there’s no bringing those back.

What’s your watering schedule like?

Newguy2022 · Feb 17, 2023

Thank you I will give them a good watering and trim the dead leaves and hopefully they start to recover

elusiveshame · Feb 17, 2023

Newguy2022 said:
Thank you I will give them a good watering and trim the dead leaves and hopefully they start to recover

Before you do that, how often are you watering? How are you gauging it’s time to water? Watering and feeding, while easy, are the easiest to fuck up.

Newguy2022 · Feb 17, 2023

elusiveshame said:
Before you do that, how often are you watering? How are you gauging it’s time to water? Watering and feeding, while easy, are the easiest to fuck up.

I usually stick my fingers in there a few inches and also have a wet dry meter.

Habosabin · Feb 17, 2023

For temps and humidity use a vpd chart.

Poekie · Feb 17, 2023

Seems the stems are getting more purple, that together with yellow droopy leaves i have noticed a few times with LED growers.

BigBlonde · Feb 17, 2023

That doesn't look like light burn to me. Symptoms of light stress or burn can similar to other plant maladies. I'd be more inclined to guess at nutrient or transplant shock. These plants need to be nursed back to health in every way possible. I suggest avoiding removing any leaves for a while so we can see how they respond. It's good that they're photos.

Newguy2022 · Feb 17, 2023

BigBlonde said:
That doesn't look like light burn to me. Symptoms of light stress or burn can similar to other plant maladies. I'd be more inclined to guess at nutrient or transplant shock. These plants need to be nursed back to health in every way possible. I suggest avoiding removing any leaves for a while so we can see how they respond. It's good that they're photos.

Should I flush the soil maybe it’s too hot?

dean1963 · Feb 17, 2023

you'll drown the girls if you try to flush soil, so i say don't flush.
your hygrometer won't give accurate reading when laying on soil so set it somewhere standing up as the vent thing is on the back

TSD · Feb 17, 2023

Can you describe exactly your watering practices? Are you sure you're saturating fully. I think you need to raise or dim light till you figure it out regardless if that's the only issue. You should get a proper meter somewhere, not in the dirt. I'm guessing the environment is off a bit. Leaves slumping down like that can mean way too much water, or way too little, or way too much light... If you're watering based in sticking your fi ger in the soil, that's not accurate, because below is still wet. I see a fly trap, so if there's fungus gnats, that's a good indicator of over watering. Did you transplant to new soil then feed right away? It looks more like necrosis from over watering than nute burn to me, but we need all the info we can get and you need a more accurate way to measure temp and humidity than one of those cheap hydrometers in the dirt. I have about 20 of those for jars and they are not accurate, they can all be in the same room with different numbers.

BigBlonde · Feb 17, 2023

Newguy2022 said:
Should I flush the soil maybe it’s too hot?

I generally don't favor flushing. How wet is the soil?

TSD · Feb 17, 2023

Ocean forest should not burn established plants, and definitely not to that degree, or any really unless you get a very hot batch. I just started my two autos in FFOF unadulterated minus a bit of perlite and they had no issues. I've up potted plants smaller than those into it with no problems. I've put my plants from inside to holes full of it with no problems. Now, If you immediately fed it on top of new FFOF, then I would add nute burn to the suspect list. It doesn't need to be fed for at least 3 weeks. When I put my girls in the holes, they were ready for food in 2 weeks, because they were bigger and the roots got to expand a lot as well. I think it is a watering issue combined with imperfect environment. Even the pic you shared when they were green and healthy, the looked overwaterd, unless you had just watered... leaves drooping and swollen... but a plant that isn't chronically wet doesn't usually droop that much after watering, they're usually happy to have a drink after a proper dry period and actually perk up a bit. You should also get them up off the floor for airflow and temperature of your root zone. Where is your tent located, is the floor cold?

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