Keepin' it Lazy and Cheap...25 clones in 2.5ftx2.5ft

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There are many super-advanced, sophisticated growers on here that supply for collectives or grow on a much larger commercial scale than I care to.

Personally, I'm interested in producing just enough high-quality buds for me and a few of my closest friends to enjoy using as little effort as possible with as little cost as possible. I certainly enjoy the hobby, but I lack the free time to invest in a more intensive or larger operation.

So, I'm going to make as complete a diary as I can of my ultra-cheap 2.5ftx2.5ft tent with my lovely 600w HPS complete with magnetic ballast. I'll post some pics of the setup a bit later.

This time around, I'll be filling my tent with 25 clones of my favorite mommy that came from bagseed out of a sack of Shoreline. They're almost done...I'll post some pics in a bit. The lid came off of their cloning container today for good!!


MY SOIL MIX
My favorite thing about a sea of green grow with soil is that when you get a new strain, you can experiment with a bunch of different mixes to see what works best for that particular strain, and get it pretty down pat in a single grow (most of the time lol). I know that my bagseed mommy likes a boatload of nitrogen, so this particular mix might run a bit nitrogen-rich for less hungry strains. If you want to experiment on a new strain, run certain plants with blood meal ranging from about 1/4th of what's listed in my recipe up to what's listed in my recipe (on the high end). For the plants with less bloodmeal, you might want to run a bit less bonemeal too on a few just to get more observations of what happens at different nutrient levels. Make sure to take notes of what's happening at different points in the grow. Here's the magic recipe for my bagseed mommy:

A 1.25 cu ft bag of Miracle Grow Potting Soil (cheap)
2 and 2/3rds cups of bone meal
1 and 1/3rd cup of blood meal
1/2 cup of epsom salt
1 cup of crushed dolomite/agricultural lime (NOT hydrated garden lime)
1/3rd of a 25 lbs bag of composted cow manure (super cheap at most hardware stores...check the pallets in the outdoor garden areas)
4 quarts of perlite
1/2 of a *crushed* Mosquito Dunk (to stave off fungus gnats/mosquito larvae without poisoning me too much)
I also use 2-3 cups of vermiculite, but that's probably optional...

--Let this mix sit for about a week before you use it. Make sure to mix this up REALLY well, because if you get hot spots of blood meal, you'll burn the shiznit out of your plants. I usually mix it again after it has sat for a week.

For 25 milk jugs (my pots) full of the clones, I'll need 2 batches of this recipe. I also mix up part of a batch (or use what's left of the original) as a top dressing about halfway through the grow.



Ok...now to go run take some pics!!
 
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My cloner - a clear rubbermaid container with dixie cups. I use 50/50 vermiculite/perlite with PUR-filtered tap water :) These have been rooting themselves for 10 days now, and their lid is off for good. I'll let them sit with their lid off overnight, then put them in cups of regular Miracle Grow potting soil for a few days to recover (the soil mix is too rich for new clones).
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My other tray of clones, up in the top of my mom/clone cab:
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A wider shot of the top shelf where my mommys are. The one in the back left is the only pheno of Burmese Kush I found that I really, really liked, and the other two are the original mommy and her daughter of the Shoreline bagseed I like. Note the bathroom air vent pushing air out of the cab lol. 4 t5 bulbs up top (2xreddish spectrum, 2xbluish spectrum). Looks like time to cut back the front left bagseed mommy:
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One (of two) 54 quart container of soil mix...this is what I mix up a single batch of my recipe in.
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This is the bottom of the 2.5x2.5 tent. You can see my two ventilation outlets - through the little vent tube on the left (my ghetto scrubber), and through the chicken-wired part of my hood (used to keep the tent from suctioning to the hood outlet). Each of these has a Stanley Blower Fan pulling air out of the tent. 2 Stanleys is plenty to keep a tent of this size cool. Links for mods below...
Ghetto scrubber ->
Stanley fan mod ->
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The top of the tent...you can see last harvest up there drying :). 1 more day til jars! Probably going to yield around 10oz, plus or minus 1/4 oz (including the 4 tester buds I pulled that you can't see here). The back 6 inch ducting is attached to the other side of the hood and a Stanley fan outside the tent:
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LordDankinstien

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sweet I love seeing diy... I have some crazy fans Ive put together from stuff laying around my house. nice job!!
 
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Wow...I was off on the yield from last time - looks like it'll be closer to 11-11.5 oz!

BONUS!
 
M.S.T.

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Lovin that setup. I am in for similar reasons with limited space. Just enough to keep me medicated. Noticed your killer little moms. Any advice on how to prune my moms to get maximum cuttings and still retain small size?
 
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Lovin that setup. I am in for similar reasons with limited space. Just enough to keep me medicated. Noticed your killer little moms. Any advice on how to prune my moms to get maximum cuttings and still retain small size?

So first, a disclaimer - I try to never cut more than 1/3rd of the leaves off of a plant on a single day.

I normally FIM or top the plant after about 4 levels of nodes have grown in on the plant. At worst, you miss it, and you get two lower branches. I top those after another 2 node levels. After that, I try to focus on one side of the plant at a time, chopping back enough of the leaves on a half to get good light to the lower branches. I keep topping the branches at the top every node or so, but I focus on getting the lower branches as high as the top of the plant by not topping them. Just focus on keeping leaves clear of the branch or two you're focusing on growing up at a time.

I think 23 of the 30 clones in the pics came from the mommy up front left. You can probably get them that branchy in about 3-4 months if you keep the light/nutes up a bit more than normal.
 
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Woohoo! Clones getting their first taste of the dirt. Out of 30 clones, I had 4 "fakers" (clones that didn't wilt for 24+ hours without a tent, but no roots...weird), and 2 that may or may not have enough roots to survive in the dirt. The rest look ok.

What did I learn this time around?? The really green clones from the younger mommy plant I used either completely didn't root or don't have nearly the roots that the less green clones did. I think I read that a long, long, time ago somewhere, but it sure appears to be true from this batch.

Here they are...pray for their lives lol:
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***EDIT - for those of you that noticed 30-4=26, and there are only 24 in the pic...the 2 that may or may not make it are in the top of the cab...
 
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Looks like the right, middle clone in the rightmost tub is having some issues...the two up top look nice though. I hope I don't lose more than 1 more in addition to this or I'll lose yield :(

I guess I could always toss in a Burmese Kush in a couple of weeks for variety...every cloud has a silver lining :)

Damn, I love doing this!
 
M.S.T.

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That's the attitude, lemons to lemonade. Positive energy your way.
 
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Here's a pic right before the lights came on tonight, after these gal's 2nd dark period...

Looks like 23 of the clones are going to survive...not bad. The ladies seem to be recovering from cloning pretty quickly and showing some pretty rapid growth. Let's hope it keeps up :)

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4u2sm0ke

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wonderful setup..Nice Harvest too...Enjoyed the read


take care and be safe:passingjoint:
 
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I think I'm noticing a trend with blood meal...I'd like to know if anyone else has had a similar experience when using it??

Here's the deal:

So, I had 4 other jugs in a smaller enclosure. The soil mix I used was my regular mix, but it had been sitting around for ~2 months composting (it was still a bit warm and moist when I opened the container).

The plants were nitrogen burned all to shit...it still looks like they'll produce some decent stuff, but definitely not at full yield potential.

I like blood meal, because it seems to decompose quickly and dump its nitrogen in the dirt early when the plants are stretching and still seem to need it.

BUT...I was thinking about it, and I'm pretty sure that the longer I've left soil with blood meal sit before using it, the more problems I've had with nitrogen burn. Even letting it sit like 3 weeks one time I had some burned edges more than normal.
 
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Right before lights on day 8...they're all perky after getting their first post-transplant watering yesterday!! Definitely lots of growth since last week :)

Only very, very mild signs of fert burn on a couple of plants, which means I think I got the soil and transplant timing right this time :) Ought to be good!

Still stretching really quickly...it'll slow down to a crawl within the next week and a half. All but 1 or 2 of them are showing some hairs. 2 appear a little runted, but this strain tends to "catch up" pretty fast when their growth stunts in the beginning.

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i puts mine in uh .99c foam ice chests from dah dollatree roots get alot of air from the porisity of dah foam might be better than old milk jugs
 
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I always save the blood/bone for od's. It's some potent food!

What's happenin Shoreline? Liked seein the last harvest shot! Hoping ya got a dry nuggie shot still. Is she gonna stay around?
 
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I always save the blood/bone for od's. It's some potent food!

What's happenin Shoreline? Liked seein the last harvest shot! Hoping ya got a dry nuggie shot still. Is she gonna stay around?

Oh yeah...great mix of potency and yield, and the smell is unbelievable! The best pheno of Burmese Kush I got is a little more potent, but I like the old-school taste on the Shoreline Bastard Seedling I got my hands on.

I've got a pic up on another thread of mine, but I'll try to put up a shot of the cured final product that's more clear...:movie
 
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Yum yum...dry, cured, nugs from last harvest :)

Shoreline bagseed clone on the top (about the top half of the kola), and my favorite Burmese Kush pheno on the bottom (about 2/3 of the main kola)...
 
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