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Three Weeks, Anemic Growth - HELP!

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Three Weeks, Anemic Growth - HELP!

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These are 3 weeks old. I made a stupid mistake, probably two stupid mistakes. 1, these are self watering pots and were too moist. Finally drying out but it's been three weeks! Also, had my VIPAR 1000 LED light too bright, and I got yellowed leaves, which could be over watering and too much light. The schedule calls for them to be replanted in 6 gallon grow bags next week, but I'm really worried about them. The supersoil in the grow bags is pretty good stuff, but any thoughts just looking at this? Soil is 70 coco and 30 composted manure with some mycos and vermiculite.
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I would not continue with those sprouts.
Coco has different watering requirements than soil. At that stage in soil they need water but no nutes. You are using a media that is not soil right now.
Coco sheds water and vermiculite retaines water. Cross purposes.
Make no decisions based on my input. Wait for a coco grower to chime in on how to ensure a good launch in coco.
 
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Lots of variables, but I'm guessing it's some combination of too wet and not enough to eat. If the light was too much, that doesn't help, but when they're this small three weeks in, the media/watering/food setup isn't working.
 
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Do you think these seedlings are salvageable? I plan to replant into 6 gallon grow bags with a different soil mix. Right now, they are sitting outdoors to harden them for going outside in a few days.
 
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ArtfulCodger said:
Lots of variables, but I'm guessing it's some combination of too wet and not enough to eat. If the light was too much, that doesn't help, but when they're this small three weeks in, the media/watering/food setup isn't working.
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I think it's not nutrition, because my mix includes FF Worm Castings and Guano. By the way, it's not vermiculite, it's perlite in the mix. But I think they were too moist and got too much light. Really stupid mistakes on my part. Only my second year, but still, totally messed up.
 
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The list of ingredients does not include any Humic Acid components. N P and K in a natural form like EWC and poop will feed a biome it will not start a biome.
 
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delzone said:
I think it's not nutrition, because my mix includes FF Worm Castings and Guano. By the way, it's not vermiculite, it's perlite in the mix. But I think they were too moist and got too much light. Really stupid mistakes on my part. Only my second year, but still, totally messed up.
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It could be as simple as your mix's water retention profile and the self-watering pots. Coco drains and wicks well, but EWC, guano, and manure all hold onto water pretty hard. I'm just guessing...I run synthetic in 100% coco. I'd start over, but I have a hair trigger when it comes to slowpokes.
 
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delzone said:
Do you think these seedlings are salvageable?
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They usually are. It would help me to see a closer picture of a few of them.

delzone said:
I plan to replant into 6 gallon grow bags with a different soil mix. Right now, they are sitting outdoors to harden them for going outside in a few days.
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It's a bit early, weather-wise, to go outside (where I live). I'd wait till they're established before putting them outside or transplanting them. They need to be healthier. Wait at least until they have 3-bladed leaves.
 
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Those are rough, but not totally done. Let them dry out more before you mess with transplanting. Keep 'em shaded if they’re outside, it’s early for that unless your weather’s perfect.


Honestly, if they don’t perk up soon, might be easier to restart with better drainage and no self-watering pots.
 
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LoveGrowingIt said:
They usually are. It would help me to see a closer picture of a few of them.


It's a bit early, weather-wise, to go outside (where I live). I'd wait till they're established before putting them outside or transplanting them. They need to be healthier. Wait at least until they have 3-bladed leaves.
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I am in US zone 8b, our weather charts have May 15 as acceptable (temperature wise) for the plants. Here are some better pics. Two "JH" (Jack herer) were planted two weeks later, and seem to be doing a little better (I'm thinking because I dimmed the light).
 

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delzone said:
I am in US zone 8b, our weather charts have May 15 as acceptable (temperature wise) for the plants.
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The weather is important, but, if they're photos, be careful not to put them outside until the daylight lasts long enough to keep them from flowering. I don't put photos outside until June 1, but I'm farther north. (If they're autos, never mind.)
 
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They are not going to stay outdoors at night. I will bring them in and supplement lighting with my artificial LED (18/6) cycle, until they go into grow bags. Thanks for your comment.
 
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Zone 8 is in the south. Recommend you look up the average DLI for your zip code.
I was going to do this exact plan but I ran into math problems. My average DLI in June and July is 56. This is way more then I could push with 700 watts in a tent. It is very close to the saturation point for cannabis but due to the IR component and the strength of natural light it will not damage plants if conditioned properly
Seems like every year we see a run of plants that reveg due to light issues. Exceeding DLI is a big stress.
 
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Just looked up DLI (or Daily Light Interval) on Wikipedia and immediately ran into problems -- there are complex formulas involved. Not for me! I just look at lowest possible temps and daily hours of sunlight.
 
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