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So, at what number of days above ground have you harvested?
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They look to be about done!
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cheers to another good 
harvest.
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Update
Planned on pulling 1 and watering rest and wind up pulling 3 plants as ready.
The led panel is not a good light to check fuzz and fur and trics and sugar dust.
I keep forgetting that.
When pulled and on the stand it was obvious.
The last 2 are closing in but have not yet had a full eruption on bracts.
These things move slow when hurt this bad but wow they just keep working on the buds.
Planned on pulling 1 and watering rest and wind up pulling 3 plants as ready.
The led panel is not a good light to check fuzz and fur and trics and sugar dust.
I keep forgetting that.
When pulled and on the stand it was obvious.
The last 2 are closing in but have not yet had a full eruption on bracts.
These things move slow when hurt this bad but wow they just keep working on the buds.
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So, why do you think the sugar leaves are browning? Mine are at least 3 weeks behind yours, trics are clear, just wondering what to expect. Been watching Bugbee's videos and they make so much sense when I look at where I have gone wrong. Next time.......
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I did not amend properly and timely.So, why do you think the sugar leaves are browning? Mine are at least 3 weeks behind yours, trics are clear, just wondering what to expect. Been watching Bugbee's videos and they make so much sense when I look at where I have gone wrong. Next time.......
I used directions on the bag and ran grow at 3 tbspoons per feed starting at week 3. I was sure that the organics would work until the conversion started. I even topp dressed with EWC.
The mix for grow is 4 4 4
After I hit the wall and all fans were gone I started shoveling ewc and bridges the early flower with 4 4 4 and the bloom at 3 6 4
Well the actual cannabis grow schedule has you starting with homegrown 6 4 4 then grow then bloom.
The rates are double the feeds for Plant, indoor potted that was on the bag.
It also has a high feed schedule that uses a 1 1 1 liquid pour and a root stimmy that just looks like a good bennies list.
I am grateful I got anything to harvest and if it is harsh and a rough smoke well that just tough.
Or I will have someone I know give me a good cookie recipe
Also the weight distribution of my pot has changed bigly. I really think all that sandy EWC sunk down to the bottom. Will check when I can unpot roots.
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Cookie!I did not amend properly and timely.
I used directions on the bag and ran grow at 3 tbspoons per feed starting at week 3. I was sure that the organics would work until the conversion started. I even topp dressed with EWC.
The mix for grow is 4 4 4
After I hit the wall and all fans were gone I started shoveling ewc and bridges the early flower with 4 4 4 and the bloom at 3 6 4
Well the actual cannabis grow schedule has you starting with homegrown 6 4 4 then grow then bloom.
The rates are double the feeds for Plant, indoor potted that was on the bag.
It also has a high feed schedule that uses a 1 1 1 liquid pour and a root stimmy that just looks like a good bennies list.
I am grateful I got anything to harvest and if it is harsh and a rough smoke well that just tough.
Or I will have someone I know give me a good cookie recipe
Also the weight distribution of my pot has changed bigly. I really think all that sandy EWC sunk down to the bottom. Will check when I can unpot roots.
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You did your best with the info. you had. I on the other hand did too much 'seat of the pants' fertilizing and burned everything early. For the rest of my grow I plan to give very little fertz. on their way to harvest.I did not amend properly and timely.
I used directions on the bag and ran grow at 3 tbspoons per feed starting at week 3. I was sure that the organics would work until the conversion started. I even topp dressed with EWC.
The mix for grow is 4 4 4
After I hit the wall and all fans were gone I started shoveling ewc and bridges the early flower with 4 4 4 and the bloom at 3 6 4
Well the actual cannabis grow schedule has you starting with homegrown 6 4 4 then grow then bloom.
The rates are double the feeds for Plant, indoor potted that was on the bag.
It also has a high feed schedule that uses a 1 1 1 liquid pour and a root stimmy that just looks like a good bennies list.
I am grateful I got anything to harvest and if it is harsh and a rough smoke well that just tough.
Or I will have someone I know give me a good cookie recipe
Also the weight distribution of my pot has changed bigly. I really think all that sandy EWC sunk down to the bottom. Will check when I can unpot roots.
I have found a dozen or so seeds in my Gazzurple, while dry sifting and may try to start them as sacrificial lambs. Said I swore off regulars, but.... they're free and, who knows, might be good. LOL
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Update
So happy to see eruptions on these last 2 plants.
Week to finish based on last 5 plants. Ends fast.
So happy to see eruptions on these last 2 plants.
Week to finish based on last 5 plants. Ends fast.
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Last 2 plants pulled and the wet trim was a messy treat.
Cleaned trimmers 3 times cleaning up plants for dry
4x4 is unplugged.
Will get tent and room cleaned up and ready for blackberry kush run.
Last entry until final harvest but I will be doing pot and root forensic eval and will post results on that also.
Dry looks to be settling around 64 degrees with everything out.
Rebalanced house humidity to 40% and turned the wet room dehuey to 55 %
Next run will prolly be close to 80% to start
Cleaned trimmers 3 times cleaning up plants for dry
4x4 is unplugged.
Will get tent and room cleaned up and ready for blackberry kush run.
Last entry until final harvest but I will be doing pot and root forensic eval and will post results on that also.
Dry looks to be settling around 64 degrees with everything out.
Rebalanced house humidity to 40% and turned the wet room dehuey to 55 %
Next run will prolly be close to 80% to start
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Great job! A tent full of goodness, and no disease. Yay. I have to admit, having complete control of the environment can be a plus for indoor.
So, 4 photos next, eh? Do you think it might get a little crowded? Have you considered a bottom watering system so you don't have to lift the pots?
So, 4 photos next, eh? Do you think it might get a little crowded? Have you considered a bottom watering system so you don't have to lift the pots?
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I am going to run 6 seeds and hope for 5 plants. Genetic diversity is not my tents friend. If I get 5 it will be 4 and 1 in the 31x31. If I get 4 it will be 3 and 1.
The single plant in flower will be run on a 18-12 schedule
I have purchased a turntable for the 31x31 plant so I can reach all sides of it.
The 4x4 has 3 doors and I can reach all sides of 4 plants in that tent.
After watching a vid or 37 on manifolding and reading a few guys like Nuggs and Neb I have used this last run of Apple Fritter to practice the timing on pulling out and turning up.
This is from the Nug.
This is my result of timing. It was a whole lot more work my way as I had to fight the plants dominance structure.
I def understand better how to make the plant do what I want and the basic tasks of manifolding are easy to understand.
My struggle will be nutrition and watering as I am sure I can do the training.
And as I have a plan that is more in line with, you know an actual plan with nutrition printouts from Dr Earth I think I will do much better this run.
The Dr Earth has 2 products that I have never used before. It is a basic 1 1 1 liquid for a water mix and a bennies powder to enhance biome. Both together are less than I spent on bugs.
The single plant in flower will be run on a 18-12 schedule
I have purchased a turntable for the 31x31 plant so I can reach all sides of it.
The 4x4 has 3 doors and I can reach all sides of 4 plants in that tent.
After watching a vid or 37 on manifolding and reading a few guys like Nuggs and Neb I have used this last run of Apple Fritter to practice the timing on pulling out and turning up.
This is from the Nug.
This is my result of timing. It was a whole lot more work my way as I had to fight the plants dominance structure.
I def understand better how to make the plant do what I want and the basic tasks of manifolding are easy to understand.
My struggle will be nutrition and watering as I am sure I can do the training.
And as I have a plan that is more in line with, you know an actual plan with nutrition printouts from Dr Earth I think I will do much better this run.
The Dr Earth has 2 products that I have never used before. It is a basic 1 1 1 liquid for a water mix and a bennies powder to enhance biome. Both together are less than I spent on bugs.
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Update
Forensic evaluation done on 10 3 gallon pots.
None of the pots built any secondary biome structures.
None of the roots in any pot were slimed or rotten.
4 pots when dumped had 1/3 of the bottom ( or more ) come out looking like potting soil and perlite. No action or roots at all.
All together 30% of the potting soil mixed went unused.
No pots had roots hitting the bottom.
No air prunes at all in any plant.
2 plants had substantially larger root structures. That would be these 2 plants.
None of the plants show any signs of mold or any salt line on the pot.
A vertical chop showed that the EWC had displaced quickly towards the bottom of the plant. I think this was caused by 2 things. Amount of EWC after several amends and the high perlite to soil content.
90% of the knex pushed into the dirt were not hitting roots. As they were on the outer perimeter of the pot the roots never got there.
The watering idea or weighing the pots was a good idea but failed due to a setup error in the XLS file rules. When added into cells 4 pots had the wrong cell modification on weight added that caused the cell to not add the maf correctly.
I had a very nice template printed to do all the math by hand. It was tedious doing this 9 times and then rechecking it 9 times. Using a spreadsheet seems like a good idea at the time.
My first 2 runs of soil had no problems with watering practices. The only wet feet issue I had was due to a drainage situation from a booster addition to a plant that did not have drain holes cut in it. I missed the cue when it slowed down as it was mid flower and my first run.
I know how to water plants. I just struggle identifying water practice issues that look like a nutrient fade issue and I have to stop trying to make my practices " easier" and just water the plants.
So of course I am committed to automating my watering practices to prevent issues but it will not be a self designed over engineered highly technical system.
Drip ring calibrated for slow feed watering. Gravity fed and hung like an IV bottle to water the plant over a 30 minute period.
Forensic evaluation done on 10 3 gallon pots.
None of the pots built any secondary biome structures.
None of the roots in any pot were slimed or rotten.
4 pots when dumped had 1/3 of the bottom ( or more ) come out looking like potting soil and perlite. No action or roots at all.
All together 30% of the potting soil mixed went unused.
No pots had roots hitting the bottom.
No air prunes at all in any plant.
2 plants had substantially larger root structures. That would be these 2 plants.
None of the plants show any signs of mold or any salt line on the pot.
A vertical chop showed that the EWC had displaced quickly towards the bottom of the plant. I think this was caused by 2 things. Amount of EWC after several amends and the high perlite to soil content.
90% of the knex pushed into the dirt were not hitting roots. As they were on the outer perimeter of the pot the roots never got there.
The watering idea or weighing the pots was a good idea but failed due to a setup error in the XLS file rules. When added into cells 4 pots had the wrong cell modification on weight added that caused the cell to not add the maf correctly.
I had a very nice template printed to do all the math by hand. It was tedious doing this 9 times and then rechecking it 9 times. Using a spreadsheet seems like a good idea at the time.
My first 2 runs of soil had no problems with watering practices. The only wet feet issue I had was due to a drainage situation from a booster addition to a plant that did not have drain holes cut in it. I missed the cue when it slowed down as it was mid flower and my first run.
I know how to water plants. I just struggle identifying water practice issues that look like a nutrient fade issue and I have to stop trying to make my practices " easier" and just water the plants.
So of course I am committed to automating my watering practices to prevent issues but it will not be a self designed over engineered highly technical system.
Drip ring calibrated for slow feed watering. Gravity fed and hung like an IV bottle to water the plant over a 30 minute period.
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Update
Learning channel post.
Ok I now have 100 gallons of once used ocean forest/perlite/happy frog to recycle. A lot of it not very used at all
I will not be throwing everything in this stuff at the same time. Going to research living soil and submit an amendment plan to a few living soil guys here for discussions.
Pretty sure I have a good handle on soil needs as I have used meals and castings and other stuff for multiple years outdoors. I also have a good understanding of changing pH level in soil outdoors but I have to translate that into 7 to 10 gallon and eventually larger systems.
Next spring run the 31x31 will hopefully have water only setup.
Learning channel post.
Ok I now have 100 gallons of once used ocean forest/perlite/happy frog to recycle. A lot of it not very used at all
I will not be throwing everything in this stuff at the same time. Going to research living soil and submit an amendment plan to a few living soil guys here for discussions.
Pretty sure I have a good handle on soil needs as I have used meals and castings and other stuff for multiple years outdoors. I also have a good understanding of changing pH level in soil outdoors but I have to translate that into 7 to 10 gallon and eventually larger systems.
Next spring run the 31x31 will hopefully have water only setup.
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Update.
Man I keep finding more shit that I did wrong last 2 runs.
Dr Earth Gold.
Comes in 2 flavors apparently.
The one I thought I bought.
The one I did buy
Now one of these is not like the other.
Not only did I underfeed the amount but I used the 2 2 2. Version instead of the 4 4 4 version.
I am wondering if I am capable of not fucking up unless I am not high.
I guess we will never know.....
Edit. Lol just seen it. Pure gold vrs premium gold.
I need a rip....
Man I keep finding more shit that I did wrong last 2 runs.
Dr Earth Gold.
Comes in 2 flavors apparently.
The one I thought I bought.
The one I did buy
Now one of these is not like the other.
Not only did I underfeed the amount but I used the 2 2 2. Version instead of the 4 4 4 version.
I am wondering if I am capable of not fucking up unless I am not high.
I guess we will never know.....
Edit. Lol just seen it. Pure gold vrs premium gold.
I need a rip....
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I used the Dr. Earth soils last year for outdoor pots. I really liked it Mother Land was the bags name. And i will recycle it for this summer. I'll dump them out on a tarp and mix in more organic composted grass clippings, worm castings and perlite. My indoor soil this run is happy frog which i'll recycle that again for indoor minus the lawn clippings. I like the products.
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Harvest update
2 more plants pulled.
I now have 85 grams of smokeable goodness between plant 3 and 4 harvested. The first 2 included the Rudy for edibles.
Like maybe 5 grams trim not even counting it in total.
.11 days in drying tent. Looks to be a good number as the last 5 are still damp a bit.
2 more plants pulled.
I now have 85 grams of smokeable goodness between plant 3 and 4 harvested. The first 2 included the Rudy for edibles.
Like maybe 5 grams trim not even counting it in total.
.11 days in drying tent. Looks to be a good number as the last 5 are still damp a bit.
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