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Can anyone please tell me whats happening to my plants?

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carlosescobar said:
those temps are a bit low , if your room is 20-24 oC the soil will be around 17-19 oc and the plant will probably grow very slow. Ive got some struggling seedlings at the moment and as soon as i put a heater in there and the soil temp goes up to 23 they thrive , . Im thinking of getting one of these heaters ,(£15 dunelm/BandM) i did have a greenhouse heater in there last year but the electric bills doubled .
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I actually bought one of those a few weeks ago, from dunelm, but I put it on the socket next to the end of the air inlet duct.

Theyre only 500W and they have a thermostat so theyre actually realy good.
I might need to put it in the actual tent though
 
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YorkshireNewbie said:
I used canna coco pro and added 30% perlite for these grows, because theyre apparently the best coco out there, but ive had nothing but problems with it.
I use canna calmag agent, and Hydrocrop Hydrosol powdered nutes.

The pH drift is a constant battle, and their last run offs were 6.5pH-7.0pH, but ive been feeding them consistently at 5.7pH.

They've grown okay, albeit with problems, but these past few days, since upping their dose as the pistils began to emerge and adding 0.25ml per litre of plant magic PK13/14, the leaves have begun to look properly weird.
The fingers of the leaves haven't spread out, but instead they've sort of stacked on top of one another in a weird pattern, and trying to identify this issue online is a pointless task. All i get back is tips for canoeing leaves, which they are NOT.

They're in week 5 of flowering, in a 1M² tent, in 5 litre pots under a maxibright 360.
feeding at 1.7ec, at 5.7pH, and getting 1.6 to 2.2ec back in run off. between 6.3ph (which isnt a huge concern) right through to one plant with 7.0pH(!!!!)

I'm following the feeding chart at 1.7EC.
I'm following the umols chart at 650.
I'm following the tent temps (24°c/19°c)
Humidity is a touch high at 60, but not a concern.
They've got space, food, watered twice every 3 days, nice temps, not bad humidity, good light, good airflow...

Whats going on???


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We need some birds eye view pics, o f those leaves.
 
#23
Ninjadogma said:
A lot of extra energy used heating the air just to heat the soil. The above ground part of the plant doesn't mind the cold, they look happy in the sun even with temps in the 40's but you want to keep those root temps above 60° and the real sweet zone is low 70's. You can use a seed mat or a heated plant pot, the heated pots run about $100. You can also wrap a pot with a weather resistent electric blanket. I don't know about the heated pots but the blankets and seed mats don't use much wattage. The mats are only about 20w and blankets have about a 100w draw, shouldn't break the bank the way a room heater with a 1500w draw would.
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yeah, i know what your saying...i said i wasnt going to grow in the winter with a heater again, its not worth it for 2 plants....Ive got a heating seedling mat , i think i might slide that under there as well, my soil is hovering around 19-21 oC but i'm sure they prefer it around 23.
 
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WinJr63 said:
We need some birds eye view pics, o f those leaves.
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I just cant fix it. Ive already cut one tent down in fear of them herming and pollinating the rest, and now these are throwing 3 fingered leaves out too! Its driving me mental!
 

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YorkshireNewbie said:
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I just cant fix it. Ive already cut one tent down in fear of them herming and pollinating the rest, and now these are throwing 3 fingered leaves out too! Its driving me mental!
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Three Fingered fans and they start grouping like they're pointing one direction. When I see it, it looks like the plant is starting to travel through space at warp speed and the leaves become aerodynamic for faster travel 🤣 🤣 🤣

It's a type of hormonal signaling. I see it a lot with my revegged / monstered plants, especially when I bring them back into flower.

Not necessarily a remedy, but when I see signs of hormone stress (like that), I slip them some seaweed extract. It has natural PGR's that are supposed to help, but hormones can rage for months. You're in flower so you won't have that crap to deal with. But the seaweed can potentially stop a hormone stall as well, and that is something that could slow or halt bud development.
 
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I say they are very nice green leaves, flowering great, maybe needs a little pruning, the 3 finger leafs look to be on bottom buried ? My 2 cents.

Another pic of all plants in side tent.

They look great 👍
 
#28
So here is a thought..
Last year (might have been year before) I grew 4 forbidden fruit photos. 1 of those I kept as a mother and let the other 3 flower. About 4 weeks after going from 18/6 to 12/12 light they were flowering, but grew some odd leaf patterns. Sometimes 3/5 but even some 2/4 fingers.

I cloned the mother and grew 4 more and they did the same thing. I did 2 more but instead of switching from 18/6 to 12/12 I went to 17/7, 16/8, 15/9, etc over the course of 2 weeks until I got to 12/12.

No weird leaves.. just transition to flower with nothing odd. That's the only plant I ever grew that did that. It could just be the phenotypic expression of that plant, and perhaps the way it perceives the switch to flower. The sun certainly doesn't change from 18 hours of light to 12 hours instantly. :)

I still dont think you have an issue. Plants look pretty good from the photos. Just let em do their plant stuff and enjoy!
 
#29
for heating in a "hack" veg tent: getting thru the winter and popping seed directly in soil container. I used a heating mat with an ACI watering base to warm the water at night. during the day "lights on" warms up plenty.
if you in "live soil" the soil guys are good here. If you in coco make a mental as to who they are.
good luck!
 
#30
in soil I do the same, lighting of 16/8 before flipping to 12/12, its part of the environmental protocol.
 
#31
shooter64738 said:
So here is a thought..
Last year (might have been year before) I grew 4 forbidden fruit photos. 1 of those I kept as a mother and let the other 3 flower. About 4 weeks after going from 18/6 to 12/12 light they were flowering, but grew some odd leaf patterns. Sometimes 3/5 but even some 2/4 fingers.

I cloned the mother and grew 4 more and they did the same thing. I did 2 more but instead of switching from 18/6 to 12/12 I went to 17/7, 16/8, 15/9, etc over the course of 2 weeks until I got to 12/12.

No weird leaves.. just transition to flower with nothing odd. That's the only plant I ever grew that did that. It could just be the phenotypic expression of that plant, and perhaps the way it perceives the switch to flower. The sun certainly doesn't change from 18 hours of light to 12 hours instantly. :)

I still dont think you have an issue. Plants look pretty good from the photos. Just let em do their plant stuff and enjoy!
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Light schedule changes will stimulate hormones, and the biggest of these is triggering flowering. But there's other hormonal things that can happen too. Swollen calyxes, leaves growing weird, plant posture off, etc. As for sudden change, perhaps not all strains are at risk but I have gone from 18/6 and put them outside to a 15 hour day and watched them start to shift into flower, bounce back to veg and then struggle with hormonal issues the rest of the grow that affected them when they were ready to flower for real.

Flipping from 18/6 to 12/12 shouldnt be an issue unless you encounter a weird pheno (not unheard of but not common), but there are also some genetics that react negatively to even small changes in light duration. And just a hunch because of their equatorial origins, I would expect sativa strains to be more particularly photosensitive.
 
#32
Well, I was just thinking about sudden light switch might be the cause of the weird leaf growth.

One year I made a bunch of clones in March and I was gonna be super smart and put them out in late April.. I was so proud of myself for being so on the ball!

Ended up with 17 plants starting to flower that were maybe 16"tall!! I panicked, setup as much indoor space as I could and brought them back in.. I had huge buds on those little plants and Im desperately trying to stop it. :) Talk about some weird leaves!!

Lesson learned, isn't enough daylight in early spring.. Ill never do that again!

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I found a pic of a bud. This was from a 12-14" tall clone that started flowering that spring. No matter what I did it just wouldn't stop growing that bud. The rest of the plant seemed to go back to veg, but it was determined to finish that one. It got big, but thats the only bud it made that was decent and when we tried to actually flower it, not much happened. Made some larf buds and a few larger ones, but nothing too impressive. It never did actually become a big plant. It vegged for weeks and just wouldn't grow.
 

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shooter64738 said:
Well, I was just thinking about sudden light switch might be the cause of the weird leaf growth.

One year I made a bunch of clones in March and I was gonna be super smart and put them out in late April.. I was so proud of myself for being so on the ball!

Ended up with 17 plants starting to flower that were maybe 16"tall!! I panicked, setup as much indoor space as I could and brought them back in.. I had huge buds on those little plants and Im desperately trying to stop it. :) Talk about some weird leaves!!

Lesson learned, isn't enough daylight in early spring.. Ill never do that again!

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I found a pic of a bud. This was from a 12-14" tall clone that started flowering that spring. No matter what I did it just wouldn't stop growing that bud. The rest of the plant seemed to go back to veg, but it was determined to finish that one. It got big, but thats the only bud it made that was decent and when we tried to actually flower it, not much happened. Made some larf buds and a few larger ones, but nothing too impressive. It never did actually become a big plant. It vegged for weeks and just wouldn't grow.
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Thats called reveg or monstercropping. Those plants can get huge and the yield can be incredible too. Just very strange growth, alot of one fingers, much flower sites and trimming hell starts in veg.
Got a couple clones which accidentally reveg, other strains I cut at the same time didn't.
 

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#34
shooter64738 said:
Well, I was just thinking about sudden light switch might be the cause of the weird leaf growth.

One year I made a bunch of clones in March and I was gonna be super smart and put them out in late April.. I was so proud of myself for being so on the ball!

Ended up with 17 plants starting to flower that were maybe 16"tall!! I panicked, setup as much indoor space as I could and brought them back in.. I had huge buds on those little plants and Im desperately trying to stop it. :) Talk about some weird leaves!!

Lesson learned, isn't enough daylight in early spring.. Ill never do that again!

Edit:
I found a pic of a bud. This was from a 12-14" tall clone that started flowering that spring. No matter what I did it just wouldn't stop growing that bud. The rest of the plant seemed to go back to veg, but it was determined to finish that one. It got big, but thats the only bud it made that was decent and when we tried to actually flower it, not much happened. Made some larf buds and a few larger ones, but nothing too impressive. It never did actually become a big plant. It vegged for weeks and just wouldn't grow.
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I grow my plants half indoors and out. I use the sun for light year round and supplement whatever light or dark the plant needs for its current stage with a shed equipped with a grow light. This time of year they go into the shed at dark. The light comes on in the middle of the night and completes an 18 hour light cycle with a combination of the natural day and the lights. After the Spring Equinox, I start using supplemental dark for anything flowering in a similar fashion. Plants get put in at dark and are brought out a few hours after the sun comes out, and I use a light that comes on when it's day should start just in case I forget to take it out.

Based on past failures, I've set 14 hours 15 minutes as the first safe day to put a plant out, and you'll find that date on your calendar looking up the sunrise and sunset times. But I recommend slowly changing your indoor light schedule from 18/6 over a two week period to more closely match the natural day, because the sudden reduction can most certainly trigger flowering even on a long day.
 
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