Brother_Antioch said:

According to the specs on the unit I'm planning on purchasing, waste is 2:1 at 60 psi. We're right around 60-70 psi city water here in town. I'm planning on just filling a 5 gallon pail once or twice a weeks as my entire system takes 16L of water to fill up to 1" below the bottom of the net pot. So max waste for me should be somewhere around 20 gal. per week, or around 75L per week. Since we're paying $1.84 for 1000L, that's roughly $0.14 per week...or just over half a buck per month. Even if I only get half the efficiency it claims, that's still only a dollar a month vs. $10/month...and it also allows me to run that RO water in my humidifier instead of distilled.

Here's the exact one I'm going to order:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0897G8QDV/?coliid=I1IR8NUBTZXLBT&colid=2W19GG776J859&psc=1

I'll also get this float shut off device for it:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00HZ6A476/?coliid=I2JMWK3RESAFY5&colid=2W19GG776J859&psc=1

It will shut off the input once the bucket is full, so no more waste at that point. Very easy to plumb in, too!

Cheers,

BA.

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Yes that was my point too.
The waste can sound worse than is actually is

Brother_Antioch said:

Here's the exact one I'm going to order:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0897G8QDV/?coliid=I1IR8NUBTZXLBT&colid=2W19GG776J859&psc=1

I'll also get this float shut off device for it:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00HZ6A476/?coliid=I2JMWK3RESAFY5&colid=2W19GG776J859&psc=1

It will shut off the input once the bucket is full, so no more waste at that point. Very easy to plumb in, too!

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I would like to be able to use that floater thing because one day it was over floated all night. It was on my bathroom floor so i thought it was safe but it had a small crack i found out. Guy from underneath woke me up telling me it was dripping from his sealing. But i collect in this big glas vine balloon so i can't use it.

This is a 44 gal Brute trash can. My 4x8 tent reservoir holds 17 gal. I probably use 6-8 gal per day,
and 30+ gal every Sun when I flush. I also use about 6 gal per day from my dehumidifier

If you're serious about hydro & if you have room for it, I'd highly recommend at minimum;
a 20 gal Brute. It's probably overkill, but I keep an air stone and small circulation pump in mine.
A sump pump and collapsible garden hose to pump it 25' to my grow room. Pump is hooked
to a smart outlet I control with my phone. For safety, (especially in an apartment situation), you
can get remote water sensors connected to an app that will alert you if there is a water spill.

Florida_Mike said:

This is a 44 gal Brute trash can. My 4x8 tent reservoir holds 17 gal. I probably use 6-8 gal per day,
and 30+ gal every Sun when I flush. I also use about 6 gal per day from my dehumidifier

If you're serious about hydro & if you have room for it, I'd highly recommend at minimum;
a 20 gal Brute. It's probably overkill, but I keep an air stone and small circulation pump in mine.
A sump pump and collapsible garden hose to pump it 25' to my grow room. Pump is hooked
to a smart outlet I control with my phone. For safety, (especially in an apartment situation), you
can get remote water sensors connected to an app that will alert you if there is a water spill.

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Very nice setup! My reservoir holds around 4 gallons (16L) and going by your numbers, you're using close to 50% per day. If the same holds true for me, I'll go through about 8L or 2 gallons per day. I could probably make the room for a container that size, but the g/f would most likely move me into my tent on a cot. With the float system I'll start out with a 5 gallon bucket. Of course, if say a few weeks down the road, I happen to say "Hon, you know, it'd be much easier if I had a bigger container, wouldn't it?" and convince her of the benefits then that's a whole other matter! Plus, she's home all day anyway, so I'll just have her check to make sure there's no overflows when she's doing laundry. (I know, that sounds horrible, right?)

Cheers,

BA.

i got my selfe a small boiler


if i knew i could have bought a float i would go with that option.this one gives me a 10L bucket then i wait until it recharges for maybe 2h or 4h
you eather plan the water change a few days before or you spend a whole day makingalarms to get enough

amneziaHaze said:

i got my selfe a small boiler
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if i knew i could have bought a float i would go with that option.this one gives me a 10L bucket then i wait until it recharges for maybe 2h or 4h
you eather plan the water change a few days before or you spend a whole day makingalarms to get enough

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From what I read, that float system is designed specifically for the RO machines. It will stop water from entering the machine once the "capture vessel" is full, so it should minimize waste water as well. Once I'm using that RO water, I'll probably bump my res changes up to once a week instead of every 10 days, as I'll have more than enough water. I'll also use it in the humidifier instead of the distilled water I am currently purchasing. And for sure I'll be using it in my coffee maker!

Cheers,

BA.

Happy Saturday, folks! Update time again.

So, it's now 30 days since emerging from the seed and 25 days since I transferred her to the DWC bucket. The root system is becoming a thick beard and shows absolute perfect health. I've managed to maintain a reservoir temperature of between 65 and 66F day and night with the Reflectix insulation and cutting the triangles out of the lid cover insulation. I've been keeping a very close eye on the logs for temperature and VPD over the day and night cycles for the last couple of days. Since lowering the trigger point on my T3 heater to 74, my day time temps are sitting around 78-80F (min to max). Night time temps are now holding at a steady 72-73 (min to max). So my temperature parameters seem to be exactly where I want them to be. As for VPD, since setting up the vivosun h05 to run a recipe of VPD=1.0 day and VPD=0.9 night, I'm happy to say, it worked!!! According to the logs, my daytime VPD is exactly 1.0 from lights on 'til lights off, and overnight VPD is exactly 0.9 until the lights come back on again and the recipe changes "shift", so to speak. The environment is perfectly dialed in for this stage of growth.

Yesterday I topped her for the first time. Cut was nice a clean, 1/4" above the node for strength. Took it off at just above the 3rd full node, and have the cutting sitting in a rockwool cube inside a humidity dome in tent. It's sitting on a seedling heating mat, and PPFD at it's canopy is around 100, so all is good. Hopefully it survives the transition and I'll have my first clone from it. I'm planning on attempting the same thing when I do my next couple of rounds of cuts.

Tied the two mains down using soft plant wire, and I'm glad I thought ahead and made "tie down bars" on the 4 sides of the lid. Basically just very small eyelets screwed into the outer lip with a piece of wire going between them to provide 360 degrees of potential tie down spots. Made it very very easy to get the branches tied exactly where I needed them with no fuss. The Silica Blast certainly seems to have been doing it's job, as the main stem is really really fattening up! The two new mains bent very easily with no more than the slightest push and showed no signs of stress or damage at the junction with the node. I did the cut yesterday afternoon and started the manifold training last night with minor adjustments this morning when I was taking my readings. pH was a fair bit lower than last night (went from 5.67 down to 5.38 overnight) so I bumped it back up to 6.0 this morning. I'll be doing a full res change come Tuesday anyway, so not a big deal. EC is maintaining its very slow downward drift (1.120 down to 1.194 over a 24 hour period) so I'm in that stable EC range. I'll be bumping the new mix up to 1.22 EC and slightly increasing the PPFD over the next week.

Tomorrow I'll strip the vegetation off her below the cut, leaving just the 2 new mains and the fan leaves coming from that node. I wanted to give her 36-48 hours to recover from the topping before putting her through more environmental stressors. This should set me up for a second topping in the next 7 to 10 days. I'm still toying with the idea of buying a taller tent (80" instead of 60") to give me the extra headroom, but I'm not sure I'll honestly need it. The manifold cut is only 3" off the bucket right now, and while I know she'll grow a fair bit taller, with the scrog netting I'm hoping to keep it so that I have 36" or so of vertical room before I start getting too close to the lights and that should be enough for this plant. Godfather OG is apparently not known for doing a huge stretch, or so I've read.

Anyway, on to the pictures!

The root system is looking really healthy and has grown exponentially over the last several days.



Over all, she looks like she's recovering nicely from the topping.



The mainlining training has begun!





Again, thanks to all for stopping by. I'll be posting the next update on her come Wednesday and am excited to see how much growth happens between then and now. I'll also have a better idea of how the clone is coming along.

Cheers,

BA.

Brother_Antioch said:

From what I read, that float system is designed specifically for the RO machines. It will stop water from entering the machine once the "capture vessel" is full, so it should minimize waste water as well. Once I'm using that RO water, I'll probably bump my res changes up to once a week instead of every 10 days, as I'll have more than enough water. I'll also use it in the humidifier instead of the distilled water I am currently purchasing. And for sure I'll be using it in my coffee maker!

Cheers,

BA.

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Why soo much res change i do 1 a grow

amneziaHaze said:

Why soo much res change i do 1 a grow

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Consistency, predictability and fine-tuned control, basically. I have all the nutrients, and with the RO system I'll have ample access to almost 0 ppm water for it. It also allows me to dial in perfectly to the ideal EC levels on a weekly basis, track trends from a clean start rather than just bumping up levels with a quick booster shot, so to speak. It also gives me a weekly opportunity to do a really close examination of the entire system from roots to tips, equipment, and do a clean of the interior of the tent.

As I said a few times, overkill? Absolutely. Necessary? Not at all. Will it hurt anything? No. Will it allow me to track everything with lab-quality settings and truly learn and understand the physiology of the plant and its environment? Yes.

Bottom line is, when I get involve in a project, I tend to take it to its extreme, be it building a deck with a bar on it for my trailer, or growing in a DWC indoor environment. Since it is my first attempt at hydro, I'd rather take those extreme measures and learn from it all, rather than let it go and hope/trust that things will work out perfectly. Down the road, I can increase the time between res changes, clock the difference in growth rates and over all plant health, and plot out how effective this current strategy is. If there's little to no difference, then fine, I can dial it back to every 2 weeks, then every 3, then every 4 and so on until I reach a point of diminishing returns. Again, though, that's just my particular personality and preference.

To be clear, I have no doubt that only doing the one change per grow works, and works well. I've read many grow diaries where it's been one reservoir from start to finish, or maybe one change when flipping to flower. I'm not knocking that approach at all, trust me. I just prefer, for me, to completely control every aspect from start to finish and treat it as a science experiment with controlled conditions rather than just as a hobby grow.

Cheers,

BA.

Here's the bar on the deck at the trailer:



It's built from a granite peninsula that came out of a kitchen reno a friend of mine was doing.



and here's one at night with the fire table I built into it going.

Brother_Antioch said:

Consistency, predictability and fine-tuned control, basically. I have all the nutrients, and with the RO system I'll have ample access to almost 0 ppm water for it. It also allows me to dial in perfectly to the ideal EC levels on a weekly basis, track trends from a clean start rather than just bumping up levels with a quick booster shot, so to speak. It also gives me a weekly opportunity to do a really close examination of the entire system from roots to tips, equipment, and do a clean of the interior of the tent.

As I said a few times, overkill? Absolutely. Necessary? Not at all. Will it hurt anything? No. Will it allow me to track everything with lab-quality settings and truly learn and understand the physiology of the plant and its environment? Yes.

Bottom line is, when I get involve in a project, I tend to take it to its extreme, be it building a deck with a bar on it for my trailer, or growing in a DWC indoor environment. Since it is my first attempt at hydro, I'd rather take those extreme measures and learn from it all, rather than let it go and hope/trust that things will work out perfectly. Down the road, I can increase the time between res changes, clock the difference in growth rates and over all plant health, and plot out how effective this current strategy is. If there's little to no difference, then fine, I can dial it back to every 2 weeks, then every 3, then every 4 and so on until I reach a point of diminishing returns. Again, though, that's just my particular personality and preference.

To be clear, I have no doubt that only doing the one change per grow works, and works well. I've read many grow diaries where it's been one reservoir from start to finish, or maybe one change when flipping to flower. I'm not knocking that approach at all, trust me. I just prefer, for me, to completely control every aspect from start to finish and treat it as a science experiment with controlled conditions rather than just as a hobby grow.

Cheers,

BA.

Here's the bar on the deck at the trailer:

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It's built from a granite peninsula that came out of a kitchen reno a friend of mine was doing.

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and here's one at night with the fire table I built into it going.

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Love that fire pit! Ive been looking into doing a little propane like that! My wife and one of the littles are very sensitive to smoke : / hard to get them out back for a fire pit hang out lol. That would solve all the problems!

BearWater said:

Love that fire pit! Ive been looking into doing a little propane like that! My wife and one of the littles are very sensitive to smoke : / hard to get them out back for a fire pit hang out lol. That would solve all the problems!

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Thanks, BearWater! The entire kit for the fire table part cost around $400 but that included the glass surround and going with the black glass fire-proof "marbles" instead of the cheaper lava stones or broken mirror pieces. The kit itself is rated at a whopping 125,000 btu's so I barely crack the handle open and get a nice flame. Turn it up any more and you'd better have a couple of extra tanks of propane kicking around! Have you considered building (or buying the kit for) a smokeless fire pit? After about 10 to 15 minutes, there's practically zero smoke coming out of it as the smoke (which in reality is unburned fuel) gets reignited by the heated air jetting out just below the rim. That's one of this year's projects at the trailer.

Thanks to getting the granite for free, the entire build cost me right around $800 CDN for everything including the stools, although I did have the SPC tiles for the cladding already as we'd done our 41' trailer in it from front to back, and my kitchen here at home. Got it for about half price as I'm in the trade. I got the entire thing built starting at 10 am (no construction before 10 or after 6 at our park) and by 5:30 the same evening, I had buddies over for beers at the bar in front of the fire table. It was a great way to spend a Saturday! I put the cladding on Sunday, and it's been 5 years now, still looks as good as day one. At the time, a cheap plastic wicker looking fire table with lava stones and a 12" fire ring was going for about $800. I'm just lucky enough to be a builder by heart and a tradesperson.

Cheers,

BA!

Hi, folks. Quick update.

After topping her on Friday afternoon, I stripped everything below the main knuckle about 2-1/2 hours after lights on this morning. That will leave it 15-1/2 hours of light cycle for recovery time. All readings were text-book perfect prior to stripping, so I'm not expecting any sudden shocks, although I'll be taking new readings later this afternoon and checking her progress. Here's the before and after pictures.

From this:



to this:



First time ever attempting a manifold grow for me. Add that to the list of firsts with this grow (first hydro grow) and I'm feeling pretty confident all is progressing well so far! As usual, if anyone sees anything that has you concerned, please mention it so it can be addressed. I appreciate all input.

Cheers,

BA.

Hi, folks. Time for an update.

Just finished doing my reservoir change. Used 16L of distilled water @ 64.3F and added 9ml Silica Blast, 11.2ml CaliMagic, 11.2ml of Flora Micro, 11.2ml Flora Grow and 5.6 ml Flora Bloom, in that order. I let it sit for about 20 minutes after the Silica Blast with an air stone running, same for the CaliMagic. Tested it out, waited 2 hours and tested it again, then made my adjustments to pH, added 16.9ml 3% H2O2 and swapped her into her new reservoir.

Numbers are:
mix: pH 6.01 EC 1.235 PPM 618 @ 64.3F
mix + 2hrs: pH 6.07 EC 1.224 PPM 612 @ 64.2F
Final test: pH 5.84 EC 1.243 ppm 621 @ 64.4F

It's day 33 since emerging from the seed, and day 28 since putting her in the DWC system. Topping went great and the training is working perfectly! Probably 3 to 4 days away from doing my second topping to get to 4 mains, then another week or so and I'll be ready to make it 8 mains. I was toying with the idea of going for 16 and spreading them laterally in the 2x4 tent, filling the scrog to about 85% and then flipping, but I think I'll stick to 8 mains on this run. Bigger buds, even if a potentially slightly smaller yield.

Roots have really exploded in the last week. They're a nice healthy colour, no smell, no slime, just some slight tan staining from the nutrient mix and CaliMagic. There was no slime build up on the air stones, so that's promising, too. All in all, it's looking like a success so far. I'll update it later this week with revised numbers and what the trends are doing (EC going up, down, staying the same, pH trends, etc.).

Anyway, on to a few pictures.

Here's a nice overhead shot of the canopy 5 days after topping:



Here's a straight on view that really shows the manifold taking shape:



And finally, here's the roots in all their shining glory!



As always, if someone with more experience spots anything I haven't please, don't hesitate to point it out. This is a learning experience for me, being the first hydro grow, so the more advice the better. Thanks to all who stopped by to join me on this ongoing adventure we all love so much!

Cheers,

BA.

Nice bubbler. Real cool way to grow with some rapid growth. Your doing a great job. Shes nice n healthy. Ive never done this type training your attempting. Interesting to me. I can appreciate the little bit of extra effort and patience needed to grow this way.

I look forward to following along.

gmonster714 said:

Nice bubbler. Real cool way to grow with some rapid growth. Your doing a great job. Shes nice n healthy. Ive never done this type training your attempting. Interesting to me. I can appreciate the little bit of extra effort and patience needed to grow this way.

I look forward to following along.

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Thanks, gmonster. I appreciate you dropping by to follow along!

The reservoir has 4 air stones running in it, 2- 1x3" flat stones that came with the Spider Farmer 2 bucket 7 gal. set, and 2- vivosun 2"x4" cylindrical stones. with the stock 8W air pump. It's putting out about 4L/min. into the res, so tons of aeration and certainly no lack of bubbles.

The manifold was a "game time" decision. I'd thought about it, and planned on it, then thought "Well, never done a hydro grow, perhaps I should nail that down first" and then thought, "nothing ventured, nothing gained" and followed through with it. It's a bit intimidating, since literally half the plant is coming of a single branch, so if I somehow break it, I've lost half a plant instantly. But, I'm being extremely careful, nudging the mains down by about 1/8" per day with those soft wire ties and using gentle pressure. Seems to be paying off!

I've got my additional lights coming on Friday. I ordered the Spider Farmer Glow30 side lights to add mid- and under-canopy lighting when the time comes in a few weeks, and I've already got my 2x4 scrog net with 3.5" holes, so I'm hoping to fill out a good 70% of the tent before flipping to 12/12. I usually update this diary at least twice a week (Wednesdays and Saturdays for the most part) but I also pop in and add a quick update if something is done (changes to environment, physical alteration of the plant such as major training or further topping, that kind of thing). I hope you find it as interesting and fun as I do posting it and creating a start to finish log of my first hydro grow and my first 8-cola manifold grow. Any questions, concerns, or just over all comments, feel free to post! I always enjoy a good conversation.

Cheers,

BA.

Edit: by bubbler, did you mean the tube going up into the net pot? I used that for the first 5 days or so while she was just a seedling, but once roots started entering the water, I disconnected it. Great idea for starting, but absolutely deadly if you leave it running as you can get stem rot very quickly as the hydroton gets soaked.

Hi, folks. Update time!

It's certainly been an interesting couple of days, that's for sure. Temperatures started creeping up in the tent and nothing I tried would rectify the situation. We're in an older home and my tent is in a corner with 2 outside walls (about 4" air gap between the tent and the walls), so I thought perhaps it was just a matter of as it got warmer outside (-5C vs -25C) maybe that was why it was happening. It was playing absolute hell with my VPD, air temperature and even my reservoir temps were starting to climb. Res temps never passed 69.6F so I wasn't worried about them, but air temps in the 85-87 F range instead of that 78-79F that I'm aiming for. VPD got into the 1.5-1.6 range, which is way too much for this early stage (just over 4 weeks into veg). It turns out that you need a PhD in Engineering with a minor in computer programming to truly figure out that damn AC Infinity Thermoforge T3 heater. Apparently, when the heater cycles to "Off" after hitting the desired temperature, you have to actually program the "Off" section to tell it to...yes...turn off. Anyway, problem solved as of yesterday evening, and overnight temps stayed at 73F all night with VPD at 0.9 kPa, and day time temps/vpd are looking like 78-80F and 1.14 kPa average so far since lights ramped up this morning. Now, I've got my T3 heater set to a low trigger of 72F and my Vivosun H05 humidifier set to maintain a night time VPD of 0.9 and day time of 1.1. Things are back on track.

Second issue I ran into was trying to ever so gently move a newer branch over to attach a tie down to an older branch. Turns out, my version of "ever so gently" and the plant's version of "ever so gently" are not exactly the same. Long story short, I lost one of my newest mains. So, 6 main cola? 7 main cola? Just say "Screw it" and scrog what's there? I'll probably go with the 6 main cola and learn from my mistakes. Kinda gives new meaning to the term "Training Wheels", when you think about it...lol.

Since doing the res change last Tuesday I've seen a very slow climb in pH (5.8 rising over 6 days to 6.07) and a very slight bump then decline in EC (1.243 jumped to 1.264 then climbed back down slowly to 1.252). Looks like it's trending in the right direction. Water level consumption isn't bad yet, using approx. 1/4" per day or just shy of 0.2L/day, but I expect that to increase dramatically over the next week or so. Canopy is expanding quite rapidly as are the roots.

Long story short, crisis averted and the grow is back on track with text-book numbers. And with that, on to the pics!

Here's the overhead shot showing structure and training:



Here's the straight on shot:



Here's the shots of the two mains giving a close up of the new growth:





And here's a shot of her roots:



As always, thanks for popping by and enjoying this adventure with me. Any suggestions, critiques, or anything else, please feel free to post.

Cheers,

BA.

Brother_Antioch said:

Hi, folks. Update time!

It's certainly been an interesting couple of days, that's for sure. Temperatures started creeping up in the tent and nothing I tried would rectify the situation. We're in an older home and my tent is in a corner with 2 outside walls (about 4" air gap between the tent and the walls), so I thought perhaps it was just a matter of as it got warmer outside (-5C vs -25C) maybe that was why it was happening. It was playing absolute hell with my VPD, air temperature and even my reservoir temps were starting to climb. Res temps never passed 69.6F so I wasn't worried about them, but air temps in the 85-87 F range instead of that 78-79F that I'm aiming for. VPD got into the 1.5-1.6 range, which is way too much for this early stage (just over 4 weeks into veg). It turns out that you need a PhD in Engineering with a minor in computer programming to truly figure out that damn AC Infinity Thermoforge T3 heater. Apparently, when the heater cycles to "Off" after hitting the desired temperature, you have to actually program the "Off" section to tell it to...yes...turn off. Anyway, problem solved as of yesterday evening, and overnight temps stayed at 73F all night with VPD at 0.9 kPa, and day time temps/vpd are looking like 78-80F and 1.14 kPa average so far since lights ramped up this morning. Now, I've got my T3 heater set to a low trigger of 72F and my Vivosun H05 humidifier set to maintain a night time VPD of 0.9 and day time of 1.1. Things are back on track.

Second issue I ran into was trying to ever so gently move a newer branch over to attach a tie down to an older branch. Turns out, my version of "ever so gently" and the plant's version of "ever so gently" are not exactly the same. Long story short, I lost one of my newest mains. So, 6 main cola? 7 main cola? Just say "Screw it" and scrog what's there? I'll probably go with the 6 main cola and learn from my mistakes. Kinda gives new meaning to the term "Training Wheels", when you think about it...lol.

Since doing the res change last Tuesday I've seen a very slow climb in pH (5.8 rising over 6 days to 6.07) and a very slight bump then decline in EC (1.243 jumped to 1.264 then climbed back down slowly to 1.252). Looks like it's trending in the right direction. Water level consumption isn't bad yet, using approx. 1/4" per day or just shy of 0.2L/day, but I expect that to increase dramatically over the next week or so. Canopy is expanding quite rapidly as are the roots.

Long story short, crisis averted and the grow is back on track with text-book numbers. And with that, on to the pics!

Here's the overhead shot showing structure and training:

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Here's the straight on shot:

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Here's the shots of the two mains giving a close up of the new growth:

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And here's a shot of her roots:

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As always, thanks for popping by and enjoying this adventure with me. Any suggestions, critiques, or anything else, please feel free to post.

Cheers,

BA.

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Ahh yes the old off status setting.
As I have only had one time I needed to use that system on anything other than OFF it should have a master setting for that part of the programming to prevent this.
But whatev ACI........

JIMKSI64 said:

Ahh yes the old off status setting.
As I have only had one time I needed to use that system on anything other than OFF it should have a master setting for that part of the programming to prevent this.
But whatev ACI........

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lol. That was my thinking, too. If I want it to turn off when reaching the desired temperature, in what world does it make sense that I then need to define exactly what "OFF" means! Oh well, live and learn.

Cheers,

BA.

Hi, folks. Quick update.

So made the decision to top the left main back to the second node, since breaking off the one shoot on the 3rd node. It will throw things off just a touch on the symmetry, but that's fine. I imagine it might change the growth characteristics of the plant as well, since now the second topping site is a full node closer to the stem on the left than the right. I'm sure it's going to be easy enough to deal with. I'll let it fully recover and grow out to about 4 or 5 nodes on each side then top all 4 back to the third node again creating my manifold at 8-cola sites...or so it goes in theory. For now, I'm not even going to attempt any more training for at least 2 to 3 days, as I want the new growth to grow out a bit and strengthen up. I learned the hard way what happens if you do anything too close to new growth. Did a light defoliation, too, only about 4 fan leaves. 2 were blocking node sites, and the other 2 were on the bottom and physically touching the fan leaves directly above them so off they came.

EC is still stable, dropping around 0.002/day fairly steadily. The environment is absolutely dialed in now that I figured out that Thermoforge T3 settings issue. All last night, VPD was at exactly 0.90 and temperature was incredibly stable at 73-73.5F and during the day, the temperature was stable at 79.8-80.4F and VPD has been super tight at 1.1 so the humidifier is working perfectly on the VPD control setting.

Here's a couple of pics of the before and after from the topping and defoliation.

Pre:



Post:



Thanks for popping in!

Cheers,

BA.

Hi, folks. Super fast update.

Installed the Spider Farmer Glow30 side lights and turned them on mid-afternoon yesterday. They're on a timer to go on for 18/6 with the SE4500, but don't start until after the 1/2 hour "sunrise" and shut off at the start of the 1/2 hour "sunset" periods. Saw a pretty dramatic increase in growth between yesterday afternoon and this morning. I'll do a full update with pics tomorrow evening, as I'm trying to keep to that Saturday/Wednesday full updates.

Cheers,

BA.