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Need Help With CLONES!! 🙏 Pretty Please 🙏

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Need Help With CLONES!! 🙏 Pretty Please 🙏

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Hello.

This is my first run with clones, and it’s hard to get some solid answers lol.

I just want to know if some droop, and overall sadness, is normal like 24 hours or so after transplanting?

They were fully rooted in root riot plugs, and lightly watered in.

I’m sure they’ll be fine, but just want to know if this is normal behavior for clones!
 

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Thanks guys! I got worried because they looked good until 24 hours later lol.

I’m just going to let them ride in 75 degrees and 65-68 rh until they perk up.

This is such a different experience than with seeds, but I feel like if this little beginning hiccup passes, then I’ll be sold on clones lol.

I just love the idea of known genetics, and getting to grow such iconic plants!

These are the Santa Cruz cut of Blue Dream from a verified source.
 
These are from just now today!

They look pretty light, and it’s concerning me.
First, I wouldn’t be too alarmed yet, they could still be adapting to their new environment.
Second, the medium looks a little dry, I’m not saying you should water more frequently, but I think more volume per watering might help initially.
Third, they could be receiving too much light but that’s really just shot in the dark, no pun intended.
Lots of potential issues but we don’t have all the info on your grow environment.
 
Hey @PlumberSoCal2 How much water should they be using to water the clones in coco??
Im not a coco grower, but pretty sure more volume of water, evenly wetting through the entire pot is needed in order to supply better amounts of oxygen to the newly developing roots!
 
Hey @PlumberSoCal2 How much water should they be using to water the clones in coco??
Im not a coco grower, but pretty sure more volume of water, evenly wetting through the entire pot is needed in order to supply better amounts of oxygen to the newly developing roots!
That’s true, but these are small plants in a big 3.9 gallon pot!

So I’m trying to coax the roots out of the plug, and into exploring the rest of the medium.
 
That’s true, but these are small plants in a big 3.9 gallon pot!

So I’m trying to coax the roots out of the plug, and into exploring the rest of the medium.
I agree with your thinking, except I would do that about a week or two after they’ve adapted to the new medium. The first week or two I would make sure water and/or nutrients are easily and readily available. Once they are comfortable in their new home, then they can spread their roots out. In short, more water initially.
 
Coco perlite.

I pre moistening the Canna coco with 1ec feed, and watered them in with around the same, an then again this morning, but each watering wasn’t much…like a pint and half maybe.

PPFD is 225-250
It's virtually impossible to over water your coco. Clones don't have the benefit of a tap root to go deep diving so all the roots are concentrated at the top of the pot. Letting it dry back at all with 1 EC feed is no bueno.

Your coco should never have that dry, light dusty brown look on top.

Don't water them like they are in soil. Think of coco like DWC but the coco is your air stone, that's how it works. The coco doesn't hold water, it holds air. The water is just passing through every day.
 
Coco perlite.

I pre moistening the Canna coco with 1ec feed, and watered them in with around the same, an then again this morning, but each watering wasn’t much…like a pint and half maybe.

PPFD is 225-250
Coco is totally different than soil and needs to be kept WET! Don't ever let it dry out. Young clones should be recieving 25% nute mix of full strength 3 x's a day with 10-20% runoff which they can't sit in.

An easy schedule would be 9am, 12pm & 3pm. 4 or 5 x's a day is even better but 3 will work.
 
That’s true, but these are small plants in a big 3.9 gallon pot!

So I’m trying to coax the roots out of the plug, and into exploring the rest of the medium.
You're watering the pot of coco, regardless of pot size and how big the plant is. Coco = WET. I can't stress this enough as it goes against everything you learned about soil. WATER THOSE SUCKERS😉 And technically it is referred to as fertigating as you always include nutes. Again, 25% of full strength at this size minimum 3 times a day😉
 
I guess I’m thinking about it like this…

If the clones roots are basically in the plug, and the small area around the plug right now, I’m going to make sure it’s always wet.

But if I keep watering a bunch, I’m just watering empty space.

Like if the roots were established in the pot…water away.

I guess I have the wrong way of thinking about it lol.

That’s what you guys are for hahaha.

At least today they look a little more alive!
 

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I guess I’m thinking about it like this…

If the clones roots are basically in the plug, and the small area around the plug right now, I’m going to make sure it’s always wet.

But if I keep watering a bunch, I’m just watering empty space.

Like if the roots were established in the pot…water away.

I guess I have the wrong way of thinking about it lol.

That’s what you guys are for hahaha.

At least today they look a little more alive!
You're not watering empty space. You're maintaining the proper pH and ppm throughout the pot because you're fertigating. If it were plain water there would be no downside to letting it dry back. But because your water is full of salt, letting that empty space dry back is like leaving soup to summer on the stove too long. It gets salty and thick.

Add hard tap water to that equation and it gets even worse.
 
So I gave them a fairly “normal” amount of water and made sure the coco is wet.

Because I DID notice that the plant getting the most water as of today, is the only one pushing new branches so far.

So for the sake of knowledge, let’s see what happens!

Hopefully it was yellowing because it couldn’t eat lol.
 
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